My girlfriend of three years just confessed to me that she used to be a man
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[QUOTE=Alexander.;37696724]Why is everyone arguing... who the fuck cares?[/QUOTE]
Clearly quite a few people do, including yourself in one way or another, otherwise you probably would not have made a post which explicitly demonstrated your supposed indifference.
[QUOTE=genkaz92;37696721]Except that in this situation everyone can speak, and everyone can be hired, but you did not hire one of the workers due to artificial or controversial reasons, such as him having a red tie and you having deep hatred for red ties.
This analogy also doesn't really work because it does not involve the emotional significance.
No one called you a bigot once for valid arguments and stances once, people called you a bigot due to (once again) the questionable extensions of your arguments.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I didn't think my analogy would get across
The ability to speak = The ability to have kids
The representatives = a vagina
The event the speaker is going to = my penis
I have no deep hatred for LGBT groups and/or it's members.
Too much truth, huh ? Not sorry. [QUOTE=VIOLATION_SNG;37695152]I hope you realize how rude, inconsiderate, and how much of a bigot you are. Here's some advice: Grow up. Realize that not everyone is going to be exactly the same as you. Learn to give others respect. Don't be an outright asshole just because you can hide behind a screen. Just grow up and get your fucking facts straight. People like you make me sick.[/QUOTE]
I think I'm done arguing. Neither of the views being put on the table are getting out to each member.
Again, I'm sorry if I offended anyone. None of my opinions were meant as insults, if they appeared that way I'm sorry.
Now if you guys don't mind my event needs some pictures of representatives.
[QUOTE=Alexander.;37696724]Why is everyone arguing... who the fuck cares?[/QUOTE]
apparantly we do
hence we are arguing
you don't care;
that doesn't mean nobody else cares
[QUOTE=extatik;37696796]Too much truth, huh ? Not sorry.[/QUOTE]
OT: I abhor those who respond above the quotation.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37696775]Yeah I didn't think my analogy would get across
The ability to speak = The ability to have kids
The representatives = a vagina
The even the speaker is going to = my penis
I have no deep hatred for LGBT groups and/or it's members.[/QUOTE]
Actually your analogy got across to me 100%, it is my analogy which did not seem to get across to you.
Hatred for red ties = supposedly unavoidable problem of wanting children, not hatred towards LGBT, also including my point of emotional significance.
The red tie being fully fixable and negotiable.
Tell me quite honestly, would you really destroy your love for someone from being unable to have biological children?
Would you honestly not consider the perfectly suitable alternative of having adoption and or the surrogate mother concept that someone mentioned earlier?
Or realizing that it may not be as important as you currently conceive to begin with?
Lastly, please always make sure that you fully understood your opponent's response before assuming that he did not understand or comprehend yours.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37696819]I think I'm done arguing. Neither of the views being put on the table are getting out to each member.
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do you mean it this time or are you just telling porkies again
[QUOTE=genkaz92;37696826]Actually your analogy got across to me 100%, it is my analogy which did not seem to get across to you.
Hatred for red ties = supposedly unavoidable problem of wanting children, not hatred towards LGBT, also including my point of emotional significance.
The red tie being fully fixable and negotiable.
Tell me quite honestly, would you really destroy your love for someone from being unable to have biological children?
Would you honestly not consider the perfectly suitable alternative of having adoption and or the surrogate mother concept that someone mentioned earlier?
Or realizing that it may not be as important as you currently conceive to begin with?
Lastly, please always make sure that you fully understood your opponent's response before assuming that he did not understand or comprehend yours.[/QUOTE]
If he wants traditional biological children, then "you can adopt or utilize a surrogate mother" isn't going to satisfy him. It may not be important to you, but it is to him and me as well.
A TG thread and I didn't make it in time what is this
[QUOTE=Apache249;37696901]If he wants traditional biological children, then "you can adopt or utilize a surrogate mother" isn't going to satisfy him. It may not be important to you, but it is to him and me as well.[/QUOTE]
No problem, I am going to say again that his complaint towards having actual biological children is fully valid. But that still does not stop my curiosity of how far he would go for that complaint in the actual hypothetical situation.
You know, everyone passes off their revulsion at transsexuals as an inability to create children.
I do not feel that is an adequate explanation, as they wouldn't react nearly as strongly were it simply a barren woman.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37696935]You know, everyone passes off their revulsion at transsexuals as an inability to create children.
I do not feel that is an adequate explanation, as they wouldn't react nearly as strongly were it simply a barren woman.[/QUOTE]
In this case, I suspect it's a mild case of transphobia.
oh never mind bad post
[QUOTE=IPK;37675923]Give her the dick.[/QUOTE]
i don't think that she wanted it in the first place
[QUOTE=garry 2;37696085]I think I can tell who the trannies are in this thread[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/16596748/0902phr_02_z+manual_transmission_swap_buick_t_type+built_transmission.jpg[/IMG]
Egads, my cover.
[QUOTE=Variant;37697281]i don't think that she wanted it in the first place[/QUOTE]
I can already see the Craigslist post:
DICK 4 SALE
Slightly used, runs well.
Minor leaks, otherwise no problems.
Call [I]"phone number"[/I]
[QUOTE=VIOLATION_SNG;37696433][B]We don't want the rest of you in there to cause problems.[/B][/QUOTE]
Alright now you are being just as douchy as the ignorant guys. Its not like anyone was actually going to go there anyway. The transgenders who posted in this thread were cut slack when they defended themselves because its a touchy subject but really, you escalated it with harsh words just as much as everybody else.
And discussing bigotry and pointing out bigots is not discussion, this needs locked.
[QUOTE=G3rman;37697445]Alright now you are being just as douchy as the ignorant guys. Its not like anyone was actually going to go there anyway. The transgenders who posted in this thread were cut slack when they defended themselves because its a touchy subject but really, you escalated it with harsh words just as much as everybody else.
And discussing bigotry and pointing out bigots is not discussion, this needs locked.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. This is a thread that was abandoned by the owner shortly after creation once he had made his decision (as established by PMs sent and received between certain members and the OP) whereas the current TG megathread is an place where TG folk can meet one another and discuss aspects of their lives.
I don't think the transgenders were cut any slack; there's a difference between using harsh words in an argument with somebody who is being very offensive and hateful and using words that offend a specific social group just because you feel like attacking somebody for who they are.
[QUOTE=G3rman;37697445]Alright now you are being just as douchy as the ignorant guys. Its not like anyone was actually going to go there anyway. The transgenders who posted in this thread were cut slack when they defended themselves because its a touchy subject but really, you escalated it with harsh words just as much as everybody else.
And discussing bigotry and pointing out bigots is not discussion, this needs locked.[/QUOTE]
Although I don't think it should continue in the megathread, I agree. The most disappointing thing about this thread for wasn't the anti-transgender ignorance, I expected that. It was people like violation_sng (sorry to use you as an example) throwing their insults out and getting aggravated because not everyone shared their paticular view on the matter, it's disgusting. How can you expect others to understand you and your opinions when you're telling them that they're morons and bigots. Don't call the kettle black.
Anyway, glad the OP worked things out and continued the relationship, that's some good that's come out of this.
"here's my bigoted opinion of you that I act like is a fact BUT DONT CALL ME A BIGOT OR GET ANGRY!!"
Seriously? Grante, Violation was being nothing but hostile, but are a lot of you really going to act like we have no reason to be mad when we keep seeing things like Rofls posts and the general transphobic shit?
[QUOTE=Skelmech;37698876]"here's my bigoted opinion of you that I act like is a fact BUT DONT CALL ME A BIGOT OR GET ANGRY!!"
Seriously? Grante, Violation was being nothing but hostile, but are a lot of you really going to act like we have no reason to be mad when we keep seeing things like Rofls posts and the general transphobic shit?[/QUOTE]
Well you're acting like you're entitled to it by law.
If you're going at someone's throat who doesn't know jackshit about it without calmly explaining it first, you [B]ARE[/B] bound to look hypocritical.
If you want people to understand you, going thermonuclear is the [B]LAST[/B] thing you should, no matter how hard it is to resist.
You think people are sympathizing with those who are aggressive, even though their cause is true?
Often it's doubtful at best in those cases.
Some people just cant get over the fact that this person used to be a guy. It just depends on the person.
I am not ashamed to say that i wouldn't get over it. Even though i would want to, but i just wouldn't get it up, if you know what i mean.
Give him the dick.
It's just a broken man, but the world is changing.. So many transgender people nowadays, I guess it's because of the internet and getting these ideas that aren't really for you, like some people take implants and tattoos don't really even get why they would do it, they just do because they want to have them, without thinking about consequences. This want can feel like something that destroys you if you don't do it, because your mind is an amazing weapon against your body.
These can be usually reversed, tho, and only leave a scar or some small bumps and shizz.
But for someone who turns his parts into what LOOKS like another gender, it's irreversible, and on some occasions leads to shit like suicide because in the end they can't handle being what they wanted to become, and actually didn't become anything else than a mutilated version of their body before.
Of course you can get an operation to change it back, but it's not gonna be the same it was before you started fucking around with your body.
For someone who really wanted this procedure and can live with it and doesn't want to be changed back, it's fine.. But you don't magically turn into the other sex, it's just looks, an illusion.
Stay with "her", atleast you'll be on the same level and don't have to guess what she means half the time because she can actually speak like a man, because she is one.
[QUOTE=Van-man;37698947]Well you're acting like you're entitled to it by law.
If you're going at someone's throat who doesn't know jackshit about it without calmly explaining it first, you [B]ARE[/B] bound to look hypocritical.
If you want people to understand you, going thermonuclear is the [B]LAST[/B] thing you should, no matter how hard it is to resist.
You think people are sympathizing with those who are aggressive, even though their cause is true?
Often it's doubtful at best in those cases.[/QUOTE]
Oh I agree that the angrier people in this thread are overreacting by far. But the other people in this thread act like they have no right to get angry and frusturated when it's been calmly explained multiple times in multiple threads. It gets very tiring explaining this all when you've got people like:
[QUOTE=wizu;37698977]Give him the dick.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kelju;37699173]It's just a broken man, etc[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37680490]Can't we just call transgendered people something a little more neutral? The only neutral word I can think of is "it" but that seems to offended them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Feel;37693543]I honestly believe that most MtF's are just socially anxious late-teens that think switching gender is the magical problem solver[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=-nesto-;37680481]It's still a dude. You can paint a horse black n white and call it a zebra but it's still a fuckin horse[/QUOTE]
I mean honestly, when the world gives you tons of shit it gets very aggravating and very hard to resist just instantly getting angry. On a "liberal and progressive" forum like FP pretends it is, I don't expect to see this shit and I really dont expect some of these to have Agrees and Winners and the like.
How about reading the post, you know it's the truth :)
[QUOTE=Kelju;37699327]How about reading the post, you know it's the truth :)[/QUOTE]
You're only furthering my point.
[QUOTE=Van-man;37698947]Well you're acting like you're entitled to it by law.
If you're going at someone's throat who doesn't know jackshit about it without calmly explaining it first, you [B]ARE[/B] bound to look hypocritical.
If you want people to understand you, going thermonuclear is the [B]LAST[/B] thing you should, no matter how hard it is to resist.
You think people are sympathizing with those who are aggressive, even though their cause is true?
Often it's doubtful at best in those cases.[/QUOTE]
Obviously you have not read through the thread where we have explained just about everything numerous times, especially the use of the word "Trannie" and yet plenty of you come in here after reading all of that and use it anyways. When you all neglect what the facts are and just become crazed people bent on insulting us in anyway possible, I find no reason to attempt to make them learn when they already have neglected our teachings.
It's fine, but you don't turn into another sex.
Do you get it?
bros before hoes
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