• My girlfriend of three years just confessed to me that she used to be a man
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[QUOTE=Kelju;37699481]It's fine, but you don't turn into another sex. Do you get it?[/QUOTE] No. We've already explained to you multiple times as to why they do. You are a perfect example of how you came stomping into this thread throwing things around that contradict everything we've already explained to everyone numerous times.
But you can't just explain something that cannot happen and it becomes the truth. This has turned into a religion for you :) [highlight](User was banned for this post ("only shows up to be an insensitive troll" - daijitsu))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Kelju;37699327]How about reading the post, you know it's the truth :)[/QUOTE] Or maybe by using actual reasoning we can determine that the perception of a higher number of transgender people is actually the result of a wider access to information about them, as opposed to saying something incredibly stupid like "GID is a memetic disease and the internet is spreading it!". [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Kelju;37699173]It's just a broken man[/QUOTE] It's just a shit poster.
[QUOTE=Kelju;37699529]But you can't just explain something that cannot happen and it becomes the truth. This has turned into a religion for you :)[/QUOTE] Obviously you are incapable of any reason or proper understanding of the subject at all so I see no further reason to attempt educating you. I suggest you leave the thread until you can actually make a valid argument and understand what is really going on.
[QUOTE=Kelju;37699481]It's fine, but you don't turn into another sex. Do you get it?[/QUOTE] Also please define what makes someone a certain sex please.
Your physiology. Even the bones of a woman are different than a mans. You can want to be something else, but you don't turn into one no matter how hard you try. I accept transgenders as transgenders, but not as the sexes they believe they become. Get it?
[QUOTE=Kelju;37699679]Your physiology. Even the bones of a woman are different than a mans. You can want to be something else, but you don't turn into one no matter how hard you try. I accept transgenders as transgenders, but not as the sexes they believe they become. Get it?[/QUOTE] So you're saying you can't change your physiology? [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] What about [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackeye_goby"]the blackeye goby[/URL]? They all start out female but can transform into a male.
[QUOTE=Kelju;37699529]But you can't just explain something that cannot happen and it becomes the truth. This has turned into a religion for you :) [highlight](User was banned for this post ("only shows up to be an insensitive troll" - daijitsu))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Don't worry. I know you're right. Sex isn't determined by your genitals or how you see yourself, it's determined by your chromosomes. While the person's gender may have changed, their sex will remain.
[QUOTE=Kelju;37699679]Your physiology. Even the bones of a woman are different than a mans. You can want to be something else, but you don't turn into one no matter how hard you try. I accept transgenders as transgenders, but not as the sexes they believe they become. Get it?[/QUOTE] you know quite a few fish change sex as they get older and bigger right so if a fish can do it, and if fertility can't be the difference between a transwoman and a normal woman without being contradictory, what IS the difference?
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;37699733]Don't worry. I know you're right. Sex isn't determined by your genitals or how you see yourself, [B]it's determined by your chromosomes.[/B] While the person's gender may have changed, their sex will remain.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRY"]Except this is wrong.[/URL]
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;37699733]Don't worry. I know you're right. Sex isn't determined by your genitals or how you see yourself, it's determined by your chromosomes. While the person's gender may have changed, their sex will remain.[/QUOTE] boys start off as girls and gradually change as they age. if that happens and it's accepted by everyone, why can't surgery be the same?
[QUOTE=VIOLATION_SNG;37695960]You have completely misread everything I said. He's an ignorant asshole because despite him knowing very well that she is female, he refers to her as a male throughout the entire post. Not to mention he lacks any understanding of what we are and what we go through, and he decides to not learn but just be completely ignorant and lack any care or respect for anyone. He knows how touchy the subject is yet he blatantly insults her and every other Transgendered person in his post. Therefore, he can burn.[/QUOTE] You aren't female. You're a male with a mutilated penis, some extra estrogen, and the belief that you're a female trapped in a male's body. Just because you believe that you're female doesn't make you female.
[QUOTE=Feel;37699791]You aren't female. You're a male with a mutilated penis, some extra estrogen, and the belief that you're a female trapped in a male's body. Just because you believe that you're female doesn't make you female.[/QUOTE] Oh boy here we go
[QUOTE=Feel;37699791]You aren't female. You're a male with a mutilated penis, some extra estrogen, and the belief that you're a female trapped in a male's body. Just because you believe that you're female doesn't make you female.[/QUOTE] Then what does?
[QUOTE=Primigenes;37699810]From Humans to Fish.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying "humans can do this", I'm saying "either you're wrong or you don't think there's such a thing as a female fish"
I've dated a transgendered woman before and although it fell apart due to bullshit it was still a relationship I miss. One thing I've got to say though is, curiosity kills the cat man, don't go about asking her about her past and shit. Speaking from experience, one of the things my ex hated was when people asked her for pictures from before she transitioned. Love her for everything she is, make her feel safe, accepted and most definitely wanted.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37699816]Then what does?[/QUOTE] Being born female.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37699758][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRY"]Except this is wrong.[/URL][/QUOTE] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome"]Very wrong.[/URL]
I can see this from both perspectives. On one side, yes, they can think of themselves as a woman and some people would think the same. On the other end, and this is my opinion, I would not see them as a woman. You can be as open-minded as you want, but in the end some people just cannot accept that an operation and a massive hormone intake suddenly dictates a change of gender. There's so much more to it than that. IMHO I think the woman has been very selfish to keep it from the guy, especially for this long. If you she did it because she was worried what he was going to think then you're going into the relationship with the wrong sort of attitude. Anyway, to all you people moaning about people not accepting it, don't come in here with your holier-than-thou attitudes. It's just a matter of perspective, and I for one and many others just feel that it isn't the same.
[QUOTE=Feel;37699791]You aren't female. You're a male with a mutilated penis, some extra estrogen, and the belief that you're a female trapped in a male's body. Just because you believe that you're female doesn't make you female.[/QUOTE] This is about one of the most ridiculous accusations I have read in this thread. You people just never learn.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37699705]So you're saying you can't change your physiology? [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] What about [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackeye_goby"]the blackeye goby[/URL]? They all start out female but can transform into a male.[/QUOTE] Lots of fish do this, but they have evolved a mechanism to do it. You can't change the physiology of a human in the same way.
[QUOTE=Feel;37699857]Being born female.[/QUOTE] Now did you pull this from a medical journal or from your ass? [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Chubbs;37699903]Lots of fish do this, but they have evolved a mechanism to do it. You can't change the physiology of a human in the same way.[/QUOTE] That's why we use surgery.
[QUOTE=VIOLATION_SNG;37699886]This is about one of the most ridiculous accusations I have read in this thread. You people just never learn.[/QUOTE] and no matter what anybody says "you people" will keep on believing that you're female. You'll keep trying to force down everybody's throat that you are female. To those few that will listen to you anyway.
[QUOTE=Feel;37699918]and no matter what anybody says "you people" will keep on believing that you're female. You'll keep trying to force down everybody's throat that you are female. To those few that will listen to you anyway.[/QUOTE] You still haven't answered me. Why is a female blackeye goby (they are all born female) considered male when they transform if science master Feel says that what you are born as determines your sex forever?
[QUOTE=Feel;37699918]and no matter what anybody says "you people" will keep on believing that you're female. You'll keep trying to force down everybody's throat that you are female. To those few that will listen to you anyway.[/QUOTE] I don't believe I am female, I know I am female and you for one have no say at all in this. You're just a transphobic.
[QUOTE=VIOLATION_SNG;37699966]I don't believe I am female, I know I am female and you for one have no say at all in this. You're just a transphobic.[/QUOTE] But I'm not scared of you. I just don't believe you're female And to Boxbot Last time i checked humans aren't blackeye goby and I bet you a few pounds they don't take chemicals or have surgery to become males their bodies do that naturally
[QUOTE=Feel;37700010]And to Boxbot Last time i checked humans aren't blackeye goby and I bet you a few pounds they don't take chemicals or have surgery to become males their bodies do that naturally[/QUOTE] Still doesn't answer me. Maybe include some citations instead of pulling everything out of your ass.
[QUOTE=Feel;37700010]But I'm not scared of you. I just don't believe you're female And to Boxbot Last time i checked humans aren't blackeye goby and I bet you a few pounds they don't take chemicals or have surgery to become males their bodies do that naturally[/QUOTE] I don't believe in the toothfairy but this is far more real than anything 'belief' is a factor in. Are you literally incapable of understanding that human biology is not pure binary
[QUOTE=Cutts;37699878]I can see this from both perspectives. On one side, yes, they can think of themselves as a woman and some people would think the same. On the other end, and this is my opinion, I would not see them as a woman. You can be as open-minded as you want, but in the end some people just cannot accept that an operation and a massive hormone intake suddenly dictates a change of gender. There's so much more to it than that. IMHO I think the woman has been very selfish to keep it from the guy, especially for this long. If you she did it because she was worried what he was going to think then you're going into the relationship with the wrong sort of attitude. Anyway, to all you people moaning about people not accepting it, don't come in here with your holier-than-thou attitudes. It's just a matter of perspective, and I for one and many others just feel that it isn't the same.[/QUOTE] It's a matter of perspective to disagree with the multitudes of studies that show were as woman as we can be given our circumstances? Ok. Oh and I didn't know being afraid for your life because of the violence, ignorance, and bigotry wa face was selfish. Youve sure got a funny deifinition of that word.
[QUOTE=Feel;37700010]But I'm not scared of you. I just don't believe you're female And to Boxbot Last time i checked humans aren't blackeye goby and I bet you a few pounds they don't take chemicals or have surgery to become males their bodies do that naturally[/QUOTE] You don't even understand what Transphobia is. Transphobia isn't just being scared of us. "Transphobia (or less commonly cissexism, transprejudice, and trans-misogyny, the latter referring to transphobia directed toward trans women, or trans-misandry, referring to transphobia directed toward trans men) is a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards transsexualism and transsexual or transgender people, based on the expression of their internal gender identity (see Phobia – terms indicating prejudice or class discrimination). Whether intentional or not, transphobia can have severe consequences for the target of the negative attitude. Many trans people also experience homophobia from people who associate their gender identity with homosexuality. Attacking someone on the basis of a perception of their gender identity rather the perception of their sexual orientation is known as "trans bashing", as opposed to "gay bashing""
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