• Nazi SS vs Viet Cong: Deadliest warrior. Shitstorm incoming.
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[QUOTE=Zaroff;22074756]Wait do you mean in the simulation?[/QUOTE] Well it's a simulation, it shouldn't have any effect in the outcome of the battle between the two forces since they're comparing statistics.
[QUOTE=Zaroff;22074756]Wait do you mean in the simulation?[/QUOTE] No, the weapons they tested. The simulation is still a joke cause they had kar98k's even though they weren't tested. The Waffen-SS at their prime were usually outfitted with a mp40 or a Stg44. A Kar98k was common since it was a low tech bolt rifle compared to the Assault rifles. Mauser is cool, but a luger or a walther p38 would have been a more common choice.
[QUOTE=Tudd Fudders;22074943]No, the weapons they tested. The simulation is still a joke cause they had kar98k's even though they weren't tested. The Waffen-SS at their prime were usually outfitted with a mp40 or a Stg44. A Kar98k was common since it was a low tech bolt rifle compared to the Assault rifles. Mauser is cool, but a luger or a walther p38 would have been a more common choice.[/QUOTE] I agree with you. But I feel that the experts knew what they were talking about and even though like I stated before I would have liked to see better weapons from the SS they still won. And with WW1 weapons I might add
I hate people who believe this show is accurate.
[QUOTE=Tudd Fudders;22074660]What's the deal with the historian acting like he is a Waffen SS? He acts more like a football coach.[/QUOTE] I lol'd when the one guy pulled out his pipe, it reminded me of Inglorious Bastards.
It's a cool show but all the people is argue who's better it's stupid
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;22074039]I was glad the Nazis won. Was rooting for them because of my German roots.[/QUOTE] Dear god, you think that Nazi's = German heritage? You're dumb, most logical Germans are disgusted by the thought of them being anywhere near related to them.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22075644]Dear god, you think that Nazi's = German heritage? You're dumb, most logical Germans are disgusted by the thought of them being anywhere near related to them.[/QUOTE] I'm not disgusted, but I'm not the proudest guy either.
[QUOTE=mzathemind;22074285]The nazis would just heartlessly bomb the jungles after they find out about the boobie traps. They'd be like "fuck that shit".[/QUOTE] like the americans and they still lost how the fuck
[QUOTE=beanhead;22075796]I'm not disgusted, but I'm not the proudest guy either.[/QUOTE] To be indifferent about it is why the whole holocaust happened.
i like how when it was showing the experts at the beginning the SS expert had a ppsh-41, a RUSSIAN gun
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22075644]Dear god, you think that Nazi's = German heritage? You're dumb, most logical Germans are disgusted by the thought of them being anywhere near related to them.[/QUOTE] I don't like the Viet Cong, OR the Nazi SS. It's just that my family originates from Germany, so I was for the guys that came from my family's original country. I still despise the Nazis' ideas.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;22076457]I don't like the Viet Cong, OR the Nazi SS. It's just that my family originates from Germany, so I was for the guys that came from my family's original country. I still despise the Nazis' ideas.[/QUOTE] Vietcong aren't NEARLY as bad as the Nazi's
[QUOTE=thisispain;22075952]like the americans and they still lost how the fuck[/QUOTE] Technically we didn't lose... We just used a "tactical retreat."
we're not retreating we're advancing in a different direction
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22075644]Dear god, you think that Nazi's = German heritage? You're dumb, most logical Germans are disgusted by the thought of them being anywhere near related to them.[/QUOTE] I'm quite proud that I have Nazi heritage...
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22076483]Vietcong aren't NEARLY as bad as the Nazi's[/QUOTE] All relative. Some of the shit the Nazis did pales in comparison to some of the shit the Vietcong did, and vice versa. - and before some half-wit brings up the holocaust, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about atrocities of war committed in the field. Not massive pre-meditated culling of a people. It's safe to say that human beings are capable of doing terrible things to one another, sticking a name tag on a certain group doesn't automatically make it better or worse. [editline]01:41PM[/editline] [QUOTE=TEH_TPMASTER;22076486]Technically we didn't lose... We just used a "tactical retreat."[/QUOTE] Nope. It was a loss. Coalition forces pulled out, NVA achieved their objective of uniting north and south Vietnam.
Lets make one thing clear: Not all Nazi soldiers (be they SS, Wermacht, Kriegsmarine or whatever) were monsters, in fact few of them were. The mass-murderers and torturers were mostly high up and close to Hitler. The above goes for just about any army.
Didn`t the NVA lost like 10-1 men to the US. This video portrays like the VIetoncong massacred US troops. They weren`t super fit, selected and super trained fighters like the nazi SS. Most of them were poor farmers withoud sufficient military training or whatshowever.
This show is just so stupid. [editline]10:04PM[/editline] [QUOTE=acds;22081851]Lets make one thing clear: Not all Nazi soldiers (be they SS, Wermacht, Kriegsmarine or whatever) were monsters, in fact few of them were. The mass-murderers and torturers were mostly high up and close to Hitler. The above goes for just about any army.[/QUOTE] I agree, many guards at the concentration camps just worked there to avoid the frontline.
[QUOTE=cheezey;22085925]Didn`t the NVA lost like 10-1 men to the US. This video portrays like the VIetoncong massacred US troops. They weren`t super fit, selected and super trained fighters like the nazi SS. Most of them were poor farmers withoud sufficient military training or whatshowever.[/QUOTE] Biggest misconception of the entire war. No. The US led allies actually took roughly equal casualties with the NV. Despite their overwhelming fire support and numbers. The reason why so many Vietnamese died was because of their none existent medical supplies or logistics. Hell the survival rate of American soldiers was increased 400% with the introduction of medevac helicopters.
Is it just me, or do the americans, dispite their vast millitary and funding, seem incapable of doing well in wars against common farmers and milita with outdated equipment. Just sayin', is all...
[QUOTE=Dumba$$;22088643]Is it just me, or do the americans, dispite their vast millitary and funding, seem incapable of doing well in wars against common farmers and milita with outdated equipment. Just sayin', is all...[/QUOTE] Its the problem that all armies face.
[QUOTE=Dumba$$;22088643]Is it just me, or do the americans, dispite their vast millitary and funding, seem incapable of doing well in wars against common farmers and milita with outdated equipment. Just sayin', is all...[/QUOTE] Nice overtly simplified look at insurgences and guerrilla armys.
[QUOTE=Combineguy;22076446]i like how when it was showing the experts at the beginning the SS expert had a ppsh-41, a RUSSIAN gun[/QUOTE] The germans captured lots of ppsh-41's in the Soviet Union some were converted to fit the german 7.63x25mm Mauser ammunition (MP717(r).
[QUOTE=Dumba$$;22088643]Is it just me, or do the americans, dispite their vast millitary and funding, seem incapable of doing well in wars against common farmers and milita with outdated equipment. Just sayin', is all...[/QUOTE] Convetional warfare doesn't do so well against unconventional warfare. Part of the reason the Australians were so successful in Vietnam is that even their infantry squads were conducting counter-guerilla warfare, beating the VC at their own game.
I knew the SS would win but I think this was pretty unfair.
New ep was good. The roman side representatives were much more polite and not as fanboyish than most others that have been on the show so it was nicer to watch.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;22074039]I was glad the Nazis won. Was rooting for them because of my German roots.[/QUOTE] They're Nazis. They're fucking hate machines. What the fuck?
[QUOTE=don818;22074355]I hated the one guy who was representing the Viet Cong. Asshole was so full of himself and his flawed logic was "LOL WE BEAT THE UNITED STATES WHEN THEY WERE DRAFTING INEXPERIENCED PEOPLE, SO WE CAN BEAT ANYONE!"[/QUOTE] Pretty much everyone they bring on the show as a so called expert is just a pretentious douchebag who has the right bloodline or they studied it or some stupid shit like that. If there is a guy I didn't mind it was the green beret who represented the Spartans, he knew his shit.
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