[QUOTE=Tu154M;19081366]That's pretty fucking subjective. I doubt that Czech would be any easier.
If you take a closer look and actually compare German and English you'll find that German is a much more compact language. Our "everyday regular German" is even easier although they're never gonna teach you that. In German, for example, we don't use "do" or "got" like you have it in the English language. The simple verb is enough: I [B]have got[/B] [I]your money[/I], harharhar -> Ich [B]habe[/B] [I]dein Geld[/I], haRRRhaRRhaRR (notice hard, rolling R)
At this point i can't be arsed to write any further because my feet are cold. :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
Well, As I say. Both English and German are very distinct to Czech, but I find English much simpler, cleaner and easier.
There is a lot things you have to learn for each word separately - For example - genders. It's fucking redundant while hard to learn. In English, you have "a table" or "a lamp" or "a city". In German you need to change even the article - "Der Tish" "Die Lampe" "Die Stadt", and it brings even more chaos into declension. It's redundant, and makes learning it much more painful.
In English, you learn the noun and you are set. In German, you need to remember what gender it is, how to form it's plural form, and I don't know what else.
I lived in the Netherlands for like 5 years. I learned quite alot
(But I'm guessing that was cause I was young and soaked it in more easily)
But now that I've moved back to America I've forgotten pretty much all of it.
Would be cool to know two languages D:
[QUOTE=Keegs;19082984]I lived in the Netherlands for like 5 years. I learned quite alot
(But I'm guessing that was cause I was young and soaked it in more easily)
But now that I've moved back to America I've forgotten pretty much all of it.
Would be cool to know two languages D:[/QUOTE]
Dus je hebt nu geen idee meer wat ik zeg? Jammer ik vind Nederlands een van de mooiste talen.
I speak swedish in Finland. And i am also learning to speak German. It sucks.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;19082892]Well, As I say. Both English and German are very distinct to Czech, but I find English much simpler, cleaner and easier.
There is a lot things you have to learn for each word separately - For example - genders. It's fucking redundant while hard to learn. In English, you have "a table" or "a lamp" or "a city". In German you need to change even the article - "Der Tish" "Die Lampe" "Die Stadt", and it brings even more chaos into declension. It's redundant, and makes learning it much more painful.
In English, you learn the noun and you are set. In German, you need to remember what gender it is, how to form it's plural form, and I don't know what else.[/QUOTE]
In 98% of all nouns you can guess the gender by sounds. Don't ask me about rules for that though, you develop a feeling for that over time.
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[QUOTE=BlackBirdNL;19083036]Dus je hebt nu geen idee meer wat ik zeg? Jammer ik vind Nederlands een van de mooiste talen.[/QUOTE]
I can read and understand this shit but can hardly speak a word. What is wrong with me.
It depends on the learner. I'm in my 6th year of Spanish, and I can very fluently hold a conversation.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;19082892]Well, As I say. Both English and German are very distinct to Czech, but I find English much simpler, cleaner and easier.
There is a lot things you have to learn for each word separately - For example - genders. It's fucking redundant while hard to learn. In English, you have "a table" or "a lamp" or "a city". In German you need to change even the article - "Der Tish" "Die Lampe" "Die Stadt", and it brings even more chaos into declension. It's redundant, and makes learning it much more painful.
In English, you learn the noun and you are set. In German, you need to remember what gender it is, how to form it's plural form, and I don't know what else.[/QUOTE]
It become more confusing when suffixes and other rules gets mixed in. Like "Die Dame" (the woman) which is logical since "die" is feminine. But "Das Mädchen" (girl) is genderles because of the -chen suffix.
:psyduck:
In my primary school we had to learn welsh, we just had too, and if we wanted to go to the bathroom we had to ask in welsh or we couldn't go.
I've learned enough Spanish to understand the general thought process behind a sentence.
That said, I can't speak or write in it worth shit.
I know English and Hungarian
It kind of sucks now that I think about it since Hungarian is only spoken in one country in the fucking world - Hungary.
[QUOTE=JonniXD;19081424]Yay! A fellow Icelander.
Yeah, I agree. If you want a real language challenge, learn Icelandic. I think once you learn that, other languages become easier to learn. I started of learning Icelandic and now I can speak that, English, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish (even though those three are basically the same language with different accents) and a bit German.
It's really saving me in school, Danish and English are two of the four main subjects and since I know those so well, I get good grades.[/QUOTE]
Challange, eh? Try finnish!
Yeah, as for myself, I am bilingual; Finnish and German (got relatives in both countries) and I also take French, Spanish, English and Swedish in school. And I am thinking of taking Latin also. Languages have always been in school my stronger side, and they are also fun and easy to learn (The grammar part always is hugely boring, especially in English, because (for me at least) it is so obvious, so I always play poker in the edge of the class with another bilingual fella (He is english-finnish).
Profesores duro chupar pero se aprende rápido.
Go to your local flee market if you're in spanish you'll pick up hella quick.
I speak Norwegian, English and learning Spanish.
It's- It [u][i]was[/i][/u] fun the first 2 years, now it's just a pain.
I do want to learn Latin or Russian though.
[QUOTE=Tu154M;19083046]In 98% of all nouns you can guess the gender by sounds. Don't ask me about rules for that though, you develop a feeling for that over time.
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The worst of all we have this gender shit in Czech too but THE GENDERS ARE NOT EVEN ALWAYS SAME FOR THE SAME NOUNS IN GERMAN!
Try to remember a gender in German when you always thought of the object in different one for whole life. It's fucking impossible.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;19082892]Well, As I say. Both English and German are very distinct to Czech, but I find English much simpler, cleaner and easier.
There is a lot things you have to learn for each word separately - For example - genders. It's fucking redundant while hard to learn. In English, you have "a table" or "a lamp" or "a city". In German you need to change even the article - "Der Tish" "Die Lampe" "Die Stadt", and it brings even more chaos into declension. It's redundant, and makes learning it much more painful.
In English, you learn the noun and you are set. In German, you need to remember what gender it is, how to form it's plural form, and I don't know what else.[/QUOTE]
that's common for a lot of languages
Just a technicality but a bilingual person is someone who was brought up speaking two languages, i.e. someone with one english and one spanish parent, so they grow up speaking two languages. If you learn an extra language then it's something different.
I was born french and both my parents are french, but since english is pretty mandatory these days, even in Quebec I had to learn it.
I don't really remember how difficult it was to learn it at school as it makes nearly 10 years now that I type/speak it but what I remember is that games like diablo II, since that's all I played back in the days helped me greatly as I always played games.
I speak Lithuanian, Hebrew, English fluently and learning German.
I've been learning German for the last 5 and half years yet know basically nothing.
I learnt Lithuanian and Hebrew at the same time when I was very young, so I just know it.
And English, I mostly learnt by using the internet, playing different games and stuff, so now, like some other people, I sometimes even think or dream in English (which sucks, I'd really prefer dreaming in Lithuanian or Hebrew).
[QUOTE=willer;19082005]I have actually learned a decent amount of spanish from my courses, but everyone else in the classroom doesn't learn shit because all the teacher does is give out work, then tell us all the answers to it before picking the papers up.
I wish that they would teach something cool, like german, where everything you say sounds fucking badass. It would still sound badass if someone spoke german but said: I am a homosexual man who finds ducks cute.
also, I had to stop trying to learn russian because of spanish. :saddowns:
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is rosetta stone worth it?[/QUOTE]
I suggest it. The commercials really don't do it justice. I love it so far.
Gotta have respect for someone who can speak two languages or more.
It's so hard to do. I wish our schools in would start teaching us foreign languages at an earlier age, imho 12 (as it is in the uk) is far too late.
My first language is spanish and I've learned English just by watching movies and cartoons as a child (both speaking and writing), true story. As a kid I learned to mimic accents (mostly american accent), and now all the natives (Americans, canadians and british people) I've ever talked to said I sounded just like an american! lol
So now I'd like to learn as many languages as possible -german, french, italian, any language-... except japanese or chinese... those look and sound too damn hard :S
EDIT: Something pretty curious: My spoken english is better than my written english. Still dunno why :S
[QUOTE=NinjaPanda;19079203]I've taken French for around six fucking years and I still can't understand shit.[/QUOTE]
Zut alors
i respect people who can't understand languages right but if you fuck up my meal you're dead!!!!!!!
Shit I can speak English and Chinese, I'm learning spanish right now and i can't get a grasp of anything in it.
[QUOTE=Spawndex;19086023]Gotta have respect for someone who can speak two languages or more.
It's so hard to do. I wish our schools in would start teaching us foreign languages at an earlier age, imho 12 (as it is in the uk) is far too late.[/QUOTE]
Most people that speak english as second language grew up with it. They live in countries where they don't dub everything and started playing english games at an early age.
I remember when i was little there was no option to play games in my own language, so we just had to figure it out ourselves. Games are an excellent way to learn a language as you can read something and then see what it does.
I have to admit that facepunch's auto banhammer and grammar penalties beat the shit out of my internet slang. It really is a matter of choosing the right sources to learn from. I chose some wrong ones (online games) but it's recovering..
I'm trilingual.
I can speak 4 languages and I only ever really speak this one god damn it.
My sister-in-law speaks English, French, and Mandarin. It's kind of inspiring. I'd like to learn basically all the romance languages in the next ten or twenty years.
When I started learning English, the first 3 years were tough, but I've battled through it
well maybe because you have learn the easyest language first. And btw thanks
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