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Has anyone heard of something like TopArtWorld on DA? Apparently it wanted to include one of my sketches in its gallery or something. The summary or w.e was written in broken english too Just seems fishy?
Yeah I'm sure its an elaborate plot to steal your sketch and make millions off it by selling it on the black market
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43230842]I tried greyscale and I'm not sure if I did hard brushes properly. The shadows are terrible [IMG]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/352/b/a/ghostie_by_danielsmith300-d6yg683.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Stop using pressure opacity and draw from real life reference. By not drawing from reference you arew completely wasting your time.
[QUOTE=thefreemann;43238296]Has anyone heard of something like TopArtWorld on DA? Apparently it wanted to include one of my sketches in its gallery or something. The summary or w.e was written in broken english too Just seems fishy?[/QUOTE] i just say yes to all that stuff on DA. i never use the site and more views can't hurt
[QUOTE=Jallen;43238365]Stop using pressure opacity and draw from real life reference. By not drawing from reference you arew completely wasting your time.[/QUOTE] I use mypaint and I am new to that program so I haven't figured out how to turn off pressure opacity yet.
[QUOTE=Lilyo;43221275]Is this a joke or[/QUOTE] No, I really shouldn't even be posting. They put me on pills, one of which being bupropion that makes me want to art it up all day :dance:
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[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43242109]Hard brushes are hard, i probably shouldn't post this garbage [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/9soAtvm.png[/thumb] [editline]19th December 2013[/editline] [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/qJ68AfC.png[/thumb][/QUOTE] That dog is the best thing you've posted yet, keep it up! I recommend starting with a more neutral canvas btw, mid grey or light brown are good. Just takes away that edge of a 100% brightness starting canvas and IMO makes starting far easier.
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[thumb]http://i.imm.io/1mGPc.png[/thumb] think i might be done here
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43243526] Any tips?[/QUOTE] Yeah. Listen to people's advice.
I thought I was, this is just too much. I tried but there's so much advice and it's hard to tell which rules I am breaking. [editline]19th December 2013[/editline] I'm getting too stressed, art just isn't for me. I need to find a new hobby.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43243875]I thought I was, this is just too much. I tried but there's so much advice and it's hard to tell which rules I am breaking. [editline]19th December 2013[/editline] I'm getting too stressed, art just isn't for me. I need to find a new hobby.[/QUOTE] oh come on. [url]http://ctrlpaint.com/[/url] follow the basic tutorials here one by one and you'll see how much you'll improve in a week.
[QUOTE=MenteR;43243973]oh come on. [url]http://ctrlpaint.com/[/url] follow the basic tutorials here one by one and you'll see how much you'll improve in a week.[/QUOTE] I'll just ignore them like I always do. I try to listen but I guess I'm not
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43243875]I thought I was, this is just too much. I tried but there's so much advice and it's hard to tell which rules I am breaking.[/QUOTE] They tell you to use hard brushes, you keep using soft. They tell you to draw from real life, you draw 1 real life thing and immediately go back to imagination sketching. They tell you to find a guide, you say 'okay' and then don't post any works that may or may not be following said guide. This isn't stressful, you're just not listening.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43243994]I'll just ignore them like I always do. I try to listen but I guess I'm not[/QUOTE] you are not what don't leave us hanging
jesus christ ur an emotional basketcase
Sorry... I am an emotionally unstable person, I will stop posting on this forum until I've calmed down.
[QUOTE=MenteR;43244061]you are not what don't leave us hanging[/QUOTE] I try to listen but I guess I'm not (listening)
Try drawing, it might help you calm down, it works for me sometimes. E: oh
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43244082]Sorry... I am an emotionally unstable person, I will stop posting on this forum until I've calmed down.[/QUOTE] ahahaha
[QUOTE=Lilyo;43244103]Try drawing, it might help you calm down, it works for me sometimes. E: oh[/QUOTE] I don't know if you meant this as a sarcastic joke in the context of the previous discussion, but I have to say if you aren't that's not the best advice. I'm learning to draw as well, and it pisses me off to no end, since I haven't gotten to the point where you start seeing results from all of your horrid failures. I'm in the same boat with you D. Smith but you've gotta just accept the frustrating, difficult aspects and keep pushing in the right direction instead of turning to the fun, pointless one after things get rough
What do you think is the best way to motivate yourself to keep pushing forward and trying to improve instead of just giving up and scribbling shit for fun?
if its causing u that much distress then i think u gotta find a new hobby; nobody should be expecting anything out of the art they make except the experience of having time well spent. unless you're doing it as a job (which you aren't) then it isn't work, and shouldnt have to feel like it
I feel like learning to draw/paint is different than most other hobbies. Learning guitar (or any of the myriad of instruments I can play for that matter) was fun and rewarding for me almost the whole way through. There were always little milestones and things to be proud of myself for, but at the end of the day the most important thing was that I enjoyed practicing and could actually feel myself improving, I could see the progress. But art, holy shit. It's fucking terrible. Even when I feel like I've accomplished something, the very next step feels like I'm back to square one. I spent weeks practicing basic anatomy, and one day managed to draw a great figure without reference. The very next attempt was atrocious and it's pretty defeating, working towards something where it's so abstract and vague that at times you can't feel yourself making any progress. And the worst part is that I'm just as captivated by good works of art as I ever was by music when I was learning to play guitar. I have the same desire to improve but the process has been completely different and my motivation bottoms out almost instantly. It's weird, I think it could just be that the gap between "oh lord I'm terrible" and "aah, now we're getting somwehere" is not only massive, but also hostile and confusing, especially to a newcomer who wants to see themselves making work they don't have to be embarassed by. I have no idea what I'm talking about someone stop me
Oh man, and just knowing that most of the artists I look up to (on CGhub or deviantArt, etc) have been doing this since they were six....uuugh, how am I ever going to catch up when I can't even power through one exercise
[QUOTE=Biscuit-Boy;43244636]I feel like learning to draw/paint is different than most other hobbies. Learning guitar (or any of the myriad of instruments I can play for that matter) was fun and rewarding for me almost the whole way through. There were always little milestones and things to be proud of myself for, but at the end of the day the most important thing was that I enjoyed practicing and could actually feel myself improving, I could see the progress. But art, holy shit. It's fucking terrible. Even when I feel like I've accomplished something, the very next step feels like I'm back to square one. I spent weeks practicing basic anatomy, and one day managed to draw a great figure without reference. The very next attempt was atrocious and it's pretty defeating, working towards something where it's so abstract and vague that at times you can't feel yourself making any progress. And the worst part is that I'm just as captivated by good works of art as I ever was by music when I was learning to play guitar. I have the same desire to improve but the process has been completely different and my motivation bottoms out almost instantly. It's weird, I think it could just be that the gap between "oh lord I'm terrible" and "aah, now we're getting somwehere" is not only massive, but also hostile and confusing, especially to a newcomer who wants to see themselves making work they don't have to be embarassed by. I have no idea what I'm talking about someone stop me[/QUOTE] i think ur getting too caught up in the expectations of other people. some people are great artists, and make some really great things - but they all started exactly where u were at. its true that people (me included) dont want to see people posting a shit show they drew like that guy up there, but this isn't a commune to impress others and show off; you post here to get reactions and advice from other people to further your art on your own accord - and thats what it should be about, you and ur art
and fuuuck if u feel like scribbling go ahead and scribble man, be jackson pollock be picasso go nuts if its what makes u have a good time
Well, you guys have inspired me a bit. I think I'm going to ask for some nice pencils for Christmas. If I've got maybe $20-$30 to spend, and I know HB pencils are where it's at. What numbers should I get, and what kind of eraser? Where to order from? Mom can you get me a blanky please? [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;43244741]yeah, man, you really just gotta focus on yourself do you do art because [I]you[/I] like doing it or do you do it to show off to others? i'm not judging, but if you do it for the latter you'll probably not feel too good about it![/QUOTE] I'm genuinely in it because I see something in my mind that captivates me like a motherfucker, and I have such a massive urge to get it out in front of me, either digitally or on paper. Getting compliments on your work is nice but really it's about my ~~vision~~ (sorry haha) coming to life. And that's what's most frustrating about it, I want it so badly sometimes it's hard to deal with the failures (although I totally understand it's part of the process)
Having a natural preemption towards art also helps. You just have to not have a social life and dedicate all of your time, willpower, and love towards working on art, as well as convincing yourself that without improving you're just wasting your time and everything else is just background noise and art is the only thing that you really feel like you have control over. Like, if I suck at something my thought process is why suck at it if i could end up not sucking. Idk, it's just that simple, even if I'm really bad I don't ever think "nope, I'll NEVER be able to accomplish this." Work in layers is my advice, you'll slowly become better and better at different aspects of art. For me it's also not so much about making myself do something, I feel like I NEED to make art. It's just something I need to do, idk. I don't do it as a chore ever, it's always sort of a clear thought of needing to do this painting or this drawing. I visualize a final picture of what I want my art to be and I work towards that. I was fucking terrible at drawing when I started towards the end of 7th grade but you just keep with it and eventually you either decide if it's a big enough part of you to be worth dedicating the time to actually and seriously work on and improve, of if its too small to bother putting your efforts into. When i was in 8th grade and started realizing I really like art something clicked and I just knew I had to work towards getting really good at it, I don't feel like I ever had a choice.
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