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humor me, whats th penultimate goal of getting the image to the paper [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] what comes afterward
[QUOTE=Skerion;43244517]What do you think is the best way to motivate yourself to keep pushing forward instead of just giving up and just scribbling shit for fun?[/QUOTE] i guess finding something that truly motivates you is pretty hard, however i've been working on a game for a while now as a concept artist and i've pretty much discovered that this is for me. i've learned that obeying assignments and deadlines can totally make you a reliable painting machine and when the time comes to paint something you just have to warm up and get yourself into the workflow. if your creative process follows a certain workflow you'll never ever suffer from an artist's block. so yes, you just have to force yourself into it. realise that productiveness is very rewarding and satisfactory as opposed to not doing anything at all. if you're new to painting watching your progression should be enough to motivate yourself to paint more and more and learn new techniques to master your skill. if you put in enough time and get no results you're either doing it wrong or this isn't for you.
[QUOTE=danish rep;43244851]humor me, whats th penultimate goal of getting the image to the paper [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] what comes afterward[/QUOTE] What's the ultimate goal of playing guitar really well? Or drums? Or skiing really well. There is no "afterwards", it's all part of the same timeline. [QUOTE=Biscuit-Boy;43244797]Well, you guys have inspired me a bit. I think I'm going to ask for some nice pencils for Christmas. If I've got maybe $20-$30 to spend, and I know HB pencils are where it's at. What numbers should I get, and what kind of eraser? Where to order from? [/QUOTE] Go to an art shop, trust me, shopping there will feel SO amazing. Buy a really nice 2B pencil for like $2. Buy a really nice hard Charcoal pencil for like $2. Buy a really nice sketchbook. Walk around the shop and look at all their supplies and stuff. It'll feel great. You'll feel more connected.
[QUOTE=Biscuit-Boy;43244716]Oh man, and just knowing that most of the artists I look up to (on CGhub or deviantArt, etc) have been doing this since they were six....uuugh, how am I ever going to catch up when I can't even power through one exercise[/QUOTE] You shouldn't think "how can I catch up". You get there when you get there. Work on yourself. Its the journey to finding yourself and becoming better :) That is what will shape you and your art.
[QUOTE=HookerVomit;43245003]You shouldn't think "how can I catch up". You get there when you get there. Work on yourself. Its the journey to finding yourself and becoming better :) That is what will shape you and your art.[/QUOTE] I know in my head this is true, but I can't help hating myself for the two years I lost by not drawing ever. It's frustrating but pushing forward is the only option.
Your ability to make art and your ability to critique art often contradict eachother, leading to several "art-highs" and "art-lows". When your ability to critique is above your ability to draw, it's an art low. Then your ability to draw gets better as a result of your critique getting better, and your ability to make art becomes higher than your ability to critique, resulting in an art high. You're keeping at the same pace of improving, you just perceive it in fluctuating patterns.
Best thing to think about is you only see the good work of an artist, mostly anyway, so just keep practicing. You don't instantly get something, sometimes you hit the nail straight in, other times you have to take it out a few times, even start again with a new nail - but you'll get it eventually.
Since we're having a touchy-feely no-content page, are you alright Joey mate?
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;43241588]No, I really shouldn't even be posting. They put me on pills, one of which being bupropion that makes me want to art it up all day :dance:[/QUOTE] I hope you're doing alright dude! I went through a rough patch this year (not quite so severe though) and I know a bit of how hard it is, especially when we lose our mojo. I'm glad you're on a good track now =) [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] if you ever need to talk we are here
what you been up to maloof?
He's been hitting the dragon smut again, I have it on good authority
Mako you said you'd keep it a secret omg [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] I finished uni at the start of Nov, had my end of year show and whatnot, then moved house and started a job as a library assistant, which has been pretty awesome. Haven't done anything on the ol' tablet since I finished uni though. My new flat has actual proper internet so for the first time in 4 years I can play games online [I]whenever I feel like it[/I] so I've been enjoying that. And been writing a bit too! Hoping to get back into some fun casual drawing soon though
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;43246269]Since we're having a touchy-feely no-content page, are you alright Joey mate?[/QUOTE] Yeah :v: It's just an odd feeling living after you chose to end it. Gun jammed, what can I say. All I can do now is be productive and love everyone.
[QUOTE=MenteR;43243973]oh come on. [url]http://ctrlpaint.com/[/url] follow the basic tutorials here one by one and you'll see how much you'll improve in a week.[/QUOTE] This is a cool site,thanks for showing it off [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Skerion;43244517]What do you think is the best way to motivate yourself to keep pushing forward and trying to improve instead of just giving up and scribbling shit for fun?[/QUOTE] I just try to find any really good drawings so that I could remind myself why I started learning drawing in the first place. I might feel horribly down by seeing really amazing works but it at the same time also reminds me that I took up drawing so that I could make something amazing like that someday with the proper amount of practice and learning.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/kfw9lKW.jpg[/IMG] [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] Failed at the depth aspect of it (For example, the fence is on a cliff, about 100 meters away from the actual submarines and about 10 meters higher than the plane they're emerging from. Atmospheric perspective is really hard to capture in snow, and can't do the subtle color changes in charcoal. Going to stick to the usual surfaces for now.
I will start a few tutorials and finish them throughout a week or so after I finish something I'm working on because I'm trying to get in the habit of not stopping what I start which has been a bulk of my life. I used to make source maps in hammer editor but I quit that, I tried guitar and drums but I quit that too, but I will try to not quit art and animation because what I really want to do in my life is to create a cartoon series. I don't at all expect to be like Michelangelo but I want to at least know perspective, foreshortening and how scenes work.
when did you start drawing?
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;43247106]Yeah :v: It's just an odd feeling living after you chose to end it. Gun jammed, what can I say. All I can do now is be productive and love everyone.[/QUOTE] Felt kind of weird to react to that with only a tiny pink pixelated heart, but glad you're still in the land of the living.
So, I have a crush on my supervisor at work (We're around the same age 23). I've been working there almost two years. I'm really shy and overweight, but she and the other people she hangs out there treat me very nice (More then I deserve), and they even invited me out the other night at her apartment. I really like her, but I'm not ready to pursue anything further right now (I really want to get in shape before I do anything), but at the same time I want to make my feelings known. I'm debating giving her a confession letter along with a late Christmas gift. In truth, I'm not even sure I'll have the confidence to give her the letter; but I feel compelled to. [quote] (Name Redacted), This is a confession; I have a crush on you. I think you probably suspected that but now I'll admit it to you in the safety of this letter. I admire you as a person. You work absurd hours for a place that doesn't fully appreciate everything you do all the while going to school at the same time. I don't fully understand how you do it and still manage to be sane. Even though you insist you're a shy person; you seem to naturally inspire respect and loyalty or at least that's what I've observed. I honestly believe that whatever you decide to do in life, you'll find success; it won't be easy but you've got the motivation and skills to overcome any challenges that may cross your path. I can't say the same for myself. I feel directionless in life. I just get through each day in dreamy daze because it's the same thing over and over again. I'm afraid that I'll just keep working at [Redacted location] even after everyone else leaves because I'm used to it. That's why I want to change, I want something to look forward to. Until I can accept myself as a person, I wouldn't ask anyone else to do the same. That's why I appreciate you inviting me to over to your apartment with the rest of the crew but at the same time I feel guilty; the last thing I'd want to do is bring you down or ruin your free time. That's why I've resolved to try as hard as I can to improve myself starting now. I want to better myself as a person, both physically and emotionally, and not feel like I'm a burden to others. One day, I'll have the self confidence to to ask you directly how you feel, and until then I ask that you wait on your response. I'm not sure if you'll ever feel the same way about me that I do about you, but it's okay if it never happens; all I ask is that you don't treat me any different then you do now. But I felt I had to be honest about the way I feel and let you know. Forever faithful, (My Name Redacted) [/quote] This is just a first draft. It's a bit embarrassing to share it; but at the same time I need some feedback. The last thing I'd want is to come across as weird and drive her away. What does Facepunch think?
[QUOTE=lintz;43249517]when did you start drawing?[/QUOTE] Ever since I was 4, there were leaps when I was 8, 13 and 16. It's only been recently that I started taking this very seriously, like 2 weeks ago. [URL="http://i.imgur.com/FMHlyFg.png"]This is depressing to look at. 14 years and this is it...[/URL]
Wanted to practice doing perspectives. Here's a thing I did in one-point perspective but I feel like I'm not doing it properly. Should I go back to Simple Boxes? [img]http://i.imgur.com/0XauSwB.jpg[/img] [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43250249]Ever since I was 4, there were leaps when I was 8, 13 and 16. It's only been recently that I started taking this very seriously, like 2 weeks ago. [URL="http://i.imgur.com/FMHlyFg.png"]This is depressing to look at. 14 years and this is it...[/URL][/QUOTE] Cheer up I've only started doing this seriously for a few months and I've improved more than I did in my entire lifetime of casual drawing.(I'm 16) You'll do better if you just listen to advice and learn properly. You don't need to show off your progress everytime you try something new just draw for yourself and if you're stuck and need guidance then you post here so that you can get criticism and advice
[QUOTE=Inspector Jones;43250152]So, I have a crush on my supervisor at work (We're around the same age 23). I've been working there almost two years. I'm really shy and overweight, but she and the other people she hangs out there treat me very nice (More then I deserve), and they even invited me out the other night at her apartment. I really like her, but I'm not ready to pursue anything further right now (I really want to get in shape before I do anything), but at the same time I want to make my feelings known. I'm debating giving her a confession letter along with a late Christmas gift. In truth, I'm not even sure I'll have the confidence to give her the letter; but I feel compelled to. This is just a first draft. It's a bit embarrassing to share it; but at the same time I need some feedback. The last thing I'd want is to come across as weird and drive her away. What does Facepunch think?[/QUOTE] I'm not sure if this is the right thread for that, but anyway I wouldn't give her a letter. If you don't have confidence to tell her face to face how you feel, let that be your goal in self-improving. The content is very dying-duck-in-a-thunderstorm, and there are a lot of ways that it could just turn into a real mood-killer just hanging in the air when you see each other. In turn if you pick up on a difference with her and/or the others, that'll probably fuck up your motivation. Giving her a gift will probably intimate enough to her anyway. Plant a seed, don't hand her a time bomb.
that doesn't count as drawing since you were four. it only counts if you've been taking it seriously, drawing every day and that sort of thing. so we'll call it two weeks of drawing experience. where do i start here's how i drew in 2009 [t]http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs30/f/2009/240/4/2/iScribble_A_samurai_by_Kiddo32.png[/t] and i drew like this in 2012 [t]http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/225/2/4/lyncesca_the_elementalist_by_kiddo32-d5az44q.png[/t] and now i can't be bothered to draw properly so i end up drawing shit with my mouse like this [t]http://25.media.tumblr.com/f64646c27963a20e5e7211d4916c1eca/tumblr_mqnl9jxNhz1r3e2fho1_r2_1280.png[/t] [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] there are no shortcuts in art. just hard work and time. (and i'm still not that good)
[QUOTE=Inspector Jones;43250152]So, I have a crush on my supervisor at work (We're around the same age 23). I've been working there almost two years. I'm really shy and overweight, but she and the other people she hangs out there treat me very nice (More then I deserve), and they even invited me out the other night at her apartment. I really like her, but I'm not ready to pursue anything further right now (I really want to get in shape before I do anything), but at the same time I want to make my feelings known. I'm debating giving her a confession letter along with a late Christmas gift. In truth, I'm not even sure I'll have the confidence to give her the letter; but I feel compelled to. This is just a first draft. It's a bit embarrassing to share it; but at the same time I need some feedback. The last thing I'd want is to come across as weird and drive her away. What does Facepunch think?[/QUOTE] Don't give her that letter, it's super whiny. Nobody likes that. At best it will make her uncomfortable. Best way of action is to go on and improve yourself without letters of cringe and faggotry (I'm a fag so I can say that :v: ). I wrote stuff like that too, until one boy who liked me started writing messages like that to me. It feels uncomfortable reading these, makes you see the other person as weak, needy, spineless and a general red flag to not hang out with him. Best way to treat her is to act like you would act with your best friend of a sex you're not attracted to. Good luck!
Okay then, I guess the letter was a dumb idea :suicide: Fuck me.
[QUOTE=Spor;43250621]Don't give her that letter, it's super whiny. Nobody likes that. At best it will make her uncomfortable. Best way of action is to go on and improve yourself without letters of cringe and faggotry (I'm a fag so I can say that :v: ). I wrote stuff like that too, until one boy who liked me started writing messages like that to me. It feels uncomfortable reading these, makes you see the other person as weak, needy, spineless and a general red flag to not hang out with him. Best way to treat her is to act like you would act with your best friend of a sex you're not attracted to. Good luck![/QUOTE] Or a red [I]fag[/I] if you will haw haw haw
Inspector_jones, I don't know exactly how well you get along with this person, but in my experience sending, thoughtful, romantic letters won't get you very far. If anything it'll just make the recipient feel overwhelmed and uncomfortable, although it really depends on how well you know them. If you aren't able to follow Mako's advice and tell her in person, the very least you can do is keep the letter brief and lighthearted as to not scare the shit out of them if they don't feel anything remotely similar. Something like "Dear X, I've known you for a really long time and I think you're an amazing, fantastic person. I completely understand you might not feel the same way and that's okay, I understand, but I wanted to tell you that you've inspired me to improve myself and maybe someday be the person that I think you deserve. You don't have to say anything, but I just had to tell you somehow." Even that feels a little too long to me, but you really should tell her in person and try to keep things light. If you go all out and throw your heart out on the table it can sometimes scare people away if they aren't feeling anything mutual, which is where "I really like you" seems like a better alternative than "omg i <3 u 5ever you're my everything pls marre me bb i so crazy 4 u pls marre pls gib marre, (etc)" But in the end, just remember even if you fail miserably, you tried and that's what counts. [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] Oh man, they beat me to it, shit! In summary KEEP THINGS LIGHT, Spor put it much better than I did! But don't be discouraged, self improvement will open all kinds of doors for you!
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/eSqCWL6.png[/IMG] not quite done yet Was inspired by all your guys talk on the last page about wanting to get better so I tried to get out of my comfort zone.
I don't know what I'll do. I'll probably be too scared to do anything. I feel like I have to tell her how I feel, but I'm not ready to do so yet. I want her to know how I really feel; but understand that I need to improve myself, not merely ask her to trust that I'll become a better person. When I make my move, I want to do so with no doubt in my mind. Again, the core concept is if I don't love myself, how could I possibly ask someone else to? Yet, I also know that if I wait too long, it may be too late. I know I would eventually move on, but my heart would be crushed knowing I never even made an attempt. I'm feeling pretty shitty right now.
But losing the weight and whatever else is all part of the attempt. Right? Forget the letter, stop feeling shitty, start doing the stuff you resolved to do. Take how much you like her and transmute that energy into motivation to improve. If you want the reward start working your ass off now
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