as sympathetic as i should feel
maybe you should go here instead.
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1257818[/url]
[QUOTE=lintz;43251024]as sympathetic as i should feel
maybe you should go here instead.
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1257818[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43243994]I'll just ignore them like I always do. I try to listen but I guess I'm not[/QUOTE]
Just do what's advised and it's easy mode. People are showing you the way. It's free.
I couldn't find another place to ask but...
[video=youtube;NAp3gFMwDJQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAp3gFMwDJQ[/video]
Did I manage to make that static picture look like a crappy video camera, or does it just look like static applied to a picture?
So, I combined my best works of this year by months. What do you think guys, is there any development in skill of drawing or no?
[t]http://cs538603.vk.me/u81928639/docs/fe86148fa1cd/summary.jpg?extra=p1W0CGPRWw8i2rINVw6PbpEulthAGyuVmo6Di81UP6eKeShSTRtyPZ71NePuzQSCiSu97QhGoaCc_qvUHC5w1hUrfGxjT55i[/t]
[B]Corey_Faure[/B], looks like a crappy webcam, well done.
Here is a newish pic I uploaded on Deviantart.
[url]http://pilot1215.deviantart.com/art/Passing-by-412267268[/url]
Here you have jazz jackrabbit and venomancer.
[url=http://uppix.net/hitIfB][img]http://uppix.net/hitIfBl.png[/img][/url]
[url=http://uppix.net/gcCjtS][img]http://uppix.net/gcCjtSl.png[/img][/url]
JAZZ JACKRABBIT OMG the nostalgia :'(((
I've been drawing ever since i learned how to grip a pen, and i've always been drawing simply because i find it entertaining and relaxing, it takes my mind of things. I've never gone through that phase of having to train specific things as i've never taken my own art very serious.
Lately i've lost that lust for creative experimenting that fueled my art-progression. Nowadays i barely draw anymore, and when i do i feel i only do it because i want people to appreciate what i make. It never feels like i draw because it's fun.
(sorry i'm a bit late to the arty-venting-party, but i wanna share my story aswell)
[QUOTE=Boone_Sedford;43249901]Felt kind of weird to react to that with only a tiny pink pixelated heart, but glad you're still in the land of the living.[/QUOTE]
It seems like everyone is, it means so much to me. I honestly expected to just be ignored.
Much love, you guys. I missed this forum.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;43255783]It seems like everyone is, it means so much to me. I honestly expected to just be ignored.
Much love, you guys. I missed this forum.[/QUOTE]
And I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we're glad your back.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;43247106]Yeah :v:
It's just an odd feeling living after you chose to end it. Gun jammed, what can I say. All I can do now is be productive and love everyone.[/QUOTE]
If you ever want to talk (or even if you don't want to but you [I]need[/I] to) you can always come to us =)
Well, it all started when I was ten
:v:
I only started drawing a year ago... I'm 22.. I'm really late :(
Is it possible to use a tablet computer like an iPad or an android equivalent as a drawing tablet or are they just simply too different?
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;43262420]Is it possible to use a tablet computer like an iPad or an android equivalent as a drawing tablet or are they just simply too different?[/QUOTE]
It depends. There are some [I]really nice tablet pens[/I] out there but one thing they'll always lack is pressure sensitivity. If you're fine with manually adjusting the sizes of stuff, then it should be decent enough, but they're not nearly as good feeling to use.
I do believe the nicer pens incorporate pressure sensitivity, but they're rather pricy. I may be wrong, but excellent works of art are being made by professionals on iPads and the like.
-snip-
do you want me to be sympathetic or critical?
When working on things like people do not use small brushes. Just force yourself to use large brushes because you need to get comfortable with them.
Here's one of my first attempts at a photo-referenced portraits where I used tons of small brushstrokes and nitpicked the shit out of it. Sure it's mostly accurate but it looks fake and airbrushed- it's got no soul.
[t]http://puu.sh/2pdQ9[/t]
And here's one of my later pieces which, (while admittedly only a marginal improvement and I've accepted that I need to reach out of my comfort zone and develop other, more important skills) uses large brushstrokes for just about everything but the eyes and bits of the nose (where small brushes are necessary) and [b]doesn't it just look so much better, natural, and more relaxed[/b]?
[t]http://puu.sh/5sHMr[/t]
Don't get discouraged, keep practicing, and never take the easy route.
Oh and as a last addendum- if you're using yourself as a photo-ref, don't use a shitty image. GO OUTSIDE and either use a friend or a tripod and timer to get a good, well-lit picture of yourself. You're doing yourself no favors if the lighting you're learning from is awful and indoor-mirror-grainy-cellphone quality. Your final result isn't going to look very good if your reference image looked terrible to start with.
Thanks. Also making things symmetrical is extremely hard, especially with eyes because every time I make eyes they look strange because they are too different. What can I do about that?
practice.
sorry lad, there's no cure for that besides acquiring an artistic eye. if you can't immediately spot things that are off, you're gonna have to work your sense until you can.
[QUOTE=lintz;43264223]practice.
sorry lad, there's no cure for that besides acquiring an artistic eye. if you can't immediately spot things that are off, you're gonna have to work your sense until you can.[/QUOTE]
I know what's off but I can't seem to figure out how to make it look good. Back to the drawing board
It's all about measuring. Start with something simple, a headshot so you can measure the distance and better compare each facial feature to each other. Everything is drawn relative to each other when you're drawing from observation. Draw an imaginary line to help yourself see how far one feature is from another.
Second, don't use shitty reference images to draw from. Here, draw from this reference. Good quality, lots of detail, clear features, that's what you want to draw from.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/RdHTTq3.png[/t]
Now you can use imaginary or actual lines (when you're drawing irl you would use your pencil for this) to measure proportions. Notice the face is almost exactly the length of 4 noses and the width is almost the length of 3 mouths.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/c40BtFh.png[/IMG]
You can also use vertical and horizontal lines to help you figure out how the curve of the shapes bends and are related to one another. Notice the eyes ends where the mouth ends, and they begin about where the width of the nose ends. The ears begin where the length of the nose ends and the end above the eyebrows. The chin starts bending inwards as you move up towards the cheekbones about where the mouth ends vertically, and it straightens upwards where the length of the mouth ends horizontally.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/N9ZW8bu.png[/IMG]
Here's a good set of tutorials [url]http://www.drawing-tutorials-online.com/public/department76.cfm[/url]
In addition to what Lilyo said, you should spend at least a couple of hours on it making it look as right as possible.
I was actually about to paint this
[thumb]http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/C/Nicolas-Cage-9234498-1-402.jpg[/thumb]
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43263114]-snip-[/QUOTE]
Flesh isn't like a wave, broooo. [sp]It does not bend around corners.[/sp]
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13086361/FP/plumbingjob.jpg[/t]
I've found it really hard to draw people when you're only starting out, there's just so many things to take into consideration.
Maybe you should start with simpler stuff, like setup a [URL="http://www.jaimetreadwell.com/placement-proportion-051.jpg"]still life[/URL] at home with around 5 simple objects such as pots, jars, tableware, toys, as close to geometrical figures as possible, then try to work on drawing them in their right width/height and proportionally to each other. You do that by trying to simplify the objects into geometrical forms then finding the measurements for it by sticking out your pencil [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3PGcMxEHM0"]like artists do[/URL]. I've found that this first stage really helped me figure out how to get everything to look right. Also I'd recommend you go back to pencil and just lines, no shadows or colours, focusing more on making it look right in size and figuring out the form of stuff instead of the outlines.
This is a pretty good video:
[video=vimeo;26319905]http://vimeo.com/26319905[/video]
@Daniel
Edit: Also this doesn't mean you can't do other stuff for fun, but it should be something you do regularly for exercise.
I can see why you would be confused with our advice Daniel, everyone seems to be throwing different colored shit at you in hopes of helping you but it's really all too clustered and confusing to take in at once. I'm on break till next month so I'm willing to help you out if you want more in depth help, but you'll have to actually listen to what I say and follow my advice, as well as only draw what I say. It might be a easier for you to learn by just having to listen to one person's advice, maybe just to start out. Let me know if you want to or not.
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