A spin off of a swedish tradition.
[IMG]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/360/0/c/futuristic_lucia_by_lieutenantawesome-d6zh11x.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Jallen;43314250]Do you have the reference?
One of my biggest problems atm is knowing what I need to put down to make it read well without making it super detailed. I'm thinking it might be useful for me to see rough paintings with references so I can get an understanding of what needs to be drawn and what doesn't.[/QUOTE]
You gotta "read" the image, close one eye and unfocus the other when looking at a photograph. The blurred value-based impression you get by doing so is that exact important information you're talking about.
[QUOTE=pansarkurt;43314769]A spin off of a swedish tradition.
[IMG]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/360/0/c/futuristic_lucia_by_lieutenantawesome-d6zh11x.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Lucia?
I really like the way you did the silhouettes, but something seems off about those lightbeams ...
well piss
[QUOTE=snowboardmoose;43307867]Ugh so boring. a WIP, I have to fix the ugly opacity legs
[IMG_thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17993036/SPEAR%20MAN%20BACK%20STUDY.png[/IMG_thumb][/QUOTE]
build and turn forms instead of just copying what u see
[QUOTE=kevlar jens;43305526]acrylics are gay.
[editline]25th December 2013[/editline]
should have gotten oooooils.
[editline]25th December 2013[/editline]
realtalk, the only good acrylic paintings ive seen are those that emulate the much more nice and painterly look oils give off.[/QUOTE]
Acrylic is good for detail cause it applies easier than oil and it can be layered faster, but because its not as opaque as oils and thinner it will look less saturated and flatter. Oil colors contrast each other better, I wouldn't even chose acyrlic over oil again. I usually only use acrylic as an underpainting for oil, but that's not something that's recommended.
I've been having a few "meets" with drawing a few times already. This time though, I'm really taking a serious route, practicing daily for at least an hour, doing still life. Hopefully I'll have made some progress in the following months! So far it feels like trying to smash a wall with my head, but I promised myself to be persistent.
Work, work, work!
[QUOTE=Biscuit-Boy;43310382]Oh hey skirt n' spear guy from Pixelovely figure reference thing[/QUOTE]
i wish pixelovely would add some new refs instead of just cycling between pics by master autist MJ Ranum.
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45707598/Drawings/runningman.gif[/img]
Eh? trying animation :s I am not really talented.
Talent is a myth. Obviously you can have predispositions, but I'd say the majority of artists you see, got there through hard work
Yeaah, i just have no real experience in animation than knowing the real basics
i would recommend you read through this
[url]http://www.evl.uic.edu/ralph/508S99/squash.html[/url]
if you don't know these principles, learn them.
if you already know them, it's just practice.
Made a logo for my little business
[t]https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1465865_265035456979297_977450648_o.jpg[/t]
-i can't make anything good why bother, i try and i try and i try but i can't do anything
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43319299]I'm satisfied with something for once (It's big so I thumbed it)
[thumb]http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2013/360/7/6/death_by_danielsmith300-d6zj64y.png[/thumb][/QUOTE]
The wrinkles on the cloth, the direction of light, and the positions of the arms are almost nonsensical, and it seems like you're trying to cover these flaws up with fancy shading and a peculiar texture. You really ought to do some more drawing exercises, and looking at what the things you're drawing look like. Things like construction and making basic three dimensional shapes to form an image will help.
Also, with those eyes, it would have a really tiny head, much smaller than what the hood would suggest.
I don't draw my lesser known characters enough. It's usually Hye, Lo, and Chancey.
But have a Tay, because I never drew a good pic of him since the day of his conceptualization.
[img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/d1830aa97bc0952efd113ec6a4b47ad7/tumblr_myfvdsBlpl1rcaoyro1_500.png[/img]
I'm going to stick with cartoon stuff, realism I can't do.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43320083]I'm going to stick with cartoon stuff, realism I can't do.[/QUOTE]
You're insulting and shitting over artists all over the world, including everyone in this thread.
"Boohoo, I've tried to draw for a few weeks, yet I can't draw realistic, it's impossible".
Does the meaning of practice completely fly above your head? Do you know what effort is? Did you know that learning something takes time? Did you know that nobody is perfect at the beginning? Do you have any idea how progression works?
It's pretty much impossible for you to get the results you want now, that's something you have to practice and learn a lot to achieve. You're expecting yourself to be a master in every new work you try do draw. You're constantly looking for that perfect result even though you have no idea how to obtain or practice it.
You have no basic knowledge in drawing fundamentals to create a good drawing. You have not trained your eye to look at forms and shapes in what you reference. You have not learned how to draw long lines in one swift motion (not petting your lines). You know little to nothing about colour theory. Values, perspective, anatomy, line weight, composition, foreshortening, etc etc.
YET, despite lacking all that knowledge, you attempt to do it [B]ALL AT ONCE[/B] and get the result you want.
That's your problem, your expectations, your want for everything to be good right now, right here, no practice, no work, no actual trying, just attempts, petty "imgonnadoitgoodthistimeicanfeelit" attempts at becoming the next Leonardo Davinci, skipping all the hundreds upon hundreds of drawings and hours of work and studying.
Focus your studies, you're studying everything at once, resulting in no study at all. The one moment you try to do some still life without knowing how to look at references in shapes and values, the other moment you try to learn how skin colour works without even knowing how to draw a person at all.
[B]Don't do everything[/B] - learn one or two things, then move on to the next. Don't rush your practice.
Firstly I'd recommend above everything else, just draw from reference. Find yourself a lot of images, and just try to draw them. All of them. Lots of them. Just draw them, as best as you can. Fuck everything, fuck all theories and thoughts, just try to draw those images as best you can. Make them black & white or just find b&w images, that way you only have to care about drawing, not choosing right colours and unnecessary shit like that. Just simply learn to draw, then when you start feeling like you can actually draw from reference decently enough, you can start learning fundamental knowledge, one by one.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43320083]I'm going to stick with cartoon stuff, realism I can't do.[/QUOTE]
Dude, you actually have to learn the fundamentals first. You keep jumping into ambitious projects, when what you [I]really[/I] need to do is walk around your house and sketch random objects by reference.
You can't constantly try to mish-mash a variety of lighting/shading/whatever techniques together when all of them haven't actually been practiced at all and you're just being overzealous. Just try to learn the basics before you try to do stuff like you did.
And by the way, it's [I]not bad[/I], it's just obvious that you haven't been doing what everyone's been suggesting.
I can't handle criticism. I give up easily. That is a crystal clear indication that this just isn't for me.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43320214]I can't handle criticism. I give up easily. That is a crystal clear indication that this just isn't for me.[/QUOTE]
No, read my post, I have edited it.
"This just isn't for me" in your case is not actually that at all.
You're an impatient defeatist that doesn't want to do work to get results. You just [B]want[/B] the results, you don't want the work.
When you're saying "I want to be able to draw" you're essentially saying "I want to be rich and famous", it's that kind of easy wish you can dream about and absolutely agree with, but never actually work for.
You admire the ability to draw, but you don't want the work that comes with it, so you give up, fast, when the results don't just come flowing to you.
Cartoon you can't do either
Just go cold turkey on this thread, get Lilyo to hold your hand in PMs or something, come back in six months when you've done a shitload of practice. When I was starting out somebody in here told me to stop posting drawings, go away and do 50 figures or whatever it was and just post the 50th one.
A watched kettle won't boil, go and do intensive work on your own without reverting to old habits, no matter how little you like your results. In six months time if you haven't improved by following the advice you got here, then ok, you win, you have something wrong with you and will never be able to produce anything good. (But if you do so you will improve, guaranteed, so that's just hyperbole)
Frankly you're getting nowhere by posting every scrap, ignoring our counsel and spending half your posts bellyaching. You just aggravate people, it's practically threadshitting.
[QUOTE=dgg;43320300]No, read my post, I have edited it.
"This just isn't for me" in your case is not actually that at all.
You're an impatient defeatist that doesn't want to do work to get results. You just [B]want[/B] the results, you don't want the work.
When you're saying "I want to be able to draw" you're essentially saying "I want to be rich and famous", it's that kind of easy wish you can dream about and absolutely agree with, but never actually work for.
You admire the ability to draw, but you don't want the work that comes with it, so you give up, fast, when the results don't just come flowing to you.[/QUOTE]
How can I force myself to want the work?
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43320317]How can I force myself to want the work?[/QUOTE]
If there was such a thing amateurs wouldn't exist.
Of course passion helps, genuinely wanting to do something because it's fun or rewarding.
For most though it's just a matter of fighting through, taking the pain, creating routines, setting small goals and just dedicating some set time to do work, and just work. The whole passion, fun, happiness and reward part for most people comes [B]after[/B] they go through the pain of labour, as they start seeing their abilities grow, allowing them to create what they have always wished to create, what was once a dream has then become a reality, and then they get bigger dreams, higher demands, and such.
If I post in this thread again before the first of June 2014, a moderator can ban me for a month. That will force me to stop threadshittng and posting bad work.
I'm sorry for acting like a little twat, I'll practice with help and see what happens by that time.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43320419]If I post in this thread again before the first of June 2014, a moderator can ban me for a month. That will force me to stop threadshittng and posting bad work.
I'm sorry for acting like a little twat, I'll practice with help and see what happens by that time.[/QUOTE]
Take this
[url]http://idrawgirls.com/tutorials/[/url]
[url]http://www.fengzhudesign.com/tutorials.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.sycra.net/[/url]
[url]http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm[/url]
[url]http://ctrlpaint.com/[/url]
[url]https://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/home[/url]
But again, don't dwell and dabble too much into tutorials, guides, hints and tricks. First and foremost, just learn how to draw a reference image well, that's the most important thing for you to learn right now, just simply being able to draw.
That will give you an unrefined drawing skill which you can then improve with the drawing fundamentals, guides and tutorials out there, because it's kind of hard to improve something you don't really have just yet and it all becomes very overwhelming.
Like I said, we've told him this fucking garbage time and time again. The very first thing he posted I told him "you need to work on your fundamentals". And he's been told it countless times since then, by multiple people in various ways. Time after time, page after page.
And every time it's happened he goes through a combination of both giving up and saying he's listened to our advice, wants to improve, and will practice.
And then he comes back and posts something that looks like the second he left the thread he tossed all of our help and advice (that he both desperately needs and generally wants on his better moodswings) out the window and continued doing exactly what he was doing previously.
I hate to sound like an asshole of a broken record, but it's reached a point where I'm not even going to bother, and if this massive intervention from dgg and others doesn't work, I don't think there's anything else we can do.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43320419]If I post in this thread again before the first of June 2014, a moderator can ban me for a month. That will force me to stop threadshittng and posting bad work.
I'm sorry for acting like a little twat, I'll practice with help and see what happens by that time.[/QUOTE]
Good, now [B]REMEMBER THIS POST[/B]
Put it on a sticky note on your desk
Don't forget about it and revert to your old nonsense
[editline]27th December 2013[/editline]
tuff luv
[QUOTE=dgg;43320300]No, read my post, I have edited it.
"This just isn't for me" in your case is not actually that at all.
You're an impatient defeatist that doesn't want to do work to get results. You just [B]want[/B] the results, you don't want the work.
When you're saying "I want to be able to draw" you're essentially saying "I want to be rich and famous", it's that kind of easy wish you can dream about and absolutely agree with, but never actually work for.
You admire the ability to draw, but you don't want the work that comes with it, so you give up, fast, when the results don't just come flowing to you.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much how I felt about myself when it comes to drawing, to be honest.
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