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i can see you used one piece as your reference
For all the awesome people who follow/watch me on other places already, sorry to spam. But to the other awesome people whom I'd love to have follow/watch me, I'm having a commission giveaway on deviantart. [url]http://emalietison.deviantart.com/journal/SPRING-GIVEAWAY-Win-a-free-commission-441722098[/url] I'm pushing my online presence this break, and I haven't been getting any real business on my commissions (apart from two perfect people, like Rhenae). So, I'm promoting them a bit more. I should have a website to show you guys soon, too!
[QUOTE=dnqboy;44304852]Does this look better? I removed the outlines and redid a lot of the coloring and such. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/yWjx6XK.png?1[/IMG][/QUOTE] It is looking better! Good job! Next order of business might be to have a solid colored background that you then paint over. The reason I say this is if you look at the grass you can see the white background behind it. Are you using layers? I seems like your brush strokes are hesitating getting close to the edge of things for fear of drawing over them. With layers, you can go over the edge of your lines all you want and come back and erase them later without messing up the stuff behind it. You can also put your line art on a background layer and paint over top of that. I noticed that you defined the blades of grass along the path in your line art, but they weren't painted in your newest post.
I made this in Illustrator then decided to animate it in Photoshop. First ever self-made gif! [T]http://i.imgur.com/A4Qk2Am.gif[[/T]
[QUOTE=normandy;44305468]For all the awesome people who follow/watch me on other places already, sorry to spam. But to the other awesome people whom I'd love to have follow/watch me, I'm having a commission giveaway on deviantart. [url]http://emalietison.deviantart.com/journal/COMMISSIONS-OPEN-20-SLOTS-429142257[/url] I'm pushing my online presence this break, and I haven't been getting any real business on my commissions (apart from two perfect people, like Rhenae). So, I'm promoting them a bit more. I should have a website to show you guys soon, too![/QUOTE] Wait where's the giveaway part :v: [editline]21st March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=dnqboy;44304852]Does this look better? I removed the outlines and redid a lot of the coloring and such. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/yWjx6XK.png?1[/IMG][/QUOTE] Getting déjà vu writing this You're tackling way too much shit at once. Perspective, anatomy, value, colour, composition, these are all things you'll need to work on individually for a long time before you can hope to put together a really nice painting. But before that even, you need to be able to DRAW to some extent. Can you place an apple in front of you and then draw it accurately with just line in your sketchbook? Your work above is of such a low standard that I suspect the answer is no. Thus how are you going to draw a man crouching over a pond holding a lantern in a forest at nighttime, [B][I]without[/I][/B] direct reference? Drop it like a hot brick and start at the bottom of the curve. [editline]21st March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=GNJF;44299983][img]http://i.imgur.com/DLjOjZ6.png[/img] CC on colour mixing here please, the face colours look dull, how do i make it pop.[/QUOTE] Same thing applies to you
[QUOTE=dnqboy;44290798]I need some advice to make this more realistic. You can tear it apart as much as you want: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/w4DYbdD.png?1[/IMG][/QUOTE] Pick a vantage point and pretend you're looking at it from there, don't draw symbols of things, draw the lines that make them. You drew a pond like you thought of the pond, from above, a man like you thought of him, in profile, and a house like you thought of it, from the front. draw them from one perspective. -Edit- Does anyone, know where I can get a penpoint capacitive stylus? All the ones I can find have a big squishy glob of rubber . I might as well use my finger.
...annnnd of course everyone gives their two cents by the time I make mine. [QUOTE=GNJF;44299983][img]http://i.imgur.com/DLjOjZ6.png[/img] CC on colour mixing here please, the face colours look dull, how do i make it pop.[/QUOTE] So yeah, this is going to be very similar to a case of "draw a circle and then draw the rest of the person" advice but I feel like I can give you an idea of what's possible. Mako also made a good point to learn from the bottom up, and shading practice and anatomy would've been very helpful in this case. [T]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4565878/facepunch/VC/punish.jpg[/T] If you want your drawing to 'pop out' it can be a matter of getting good value and color contrast in your work. But right now I think it's more important to establish your foundations with making 'accurate' renderings, a solid grasp in light and anatomy makes a solid painting. [QUOTE=dnqboy;44304852]Does this look better? I removed the outlines and redid a lot of the coloring and such. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/yWjx6XK.png?1[/IMG][/QUOTE] Like GNJF, it'd be best if you can look into understanding some basics of light. You picked a pretty hard topic to begin with, when using a single lamp lighting you really have to calculate how a specific color bounces off certain materials of different color, and that's something to additionally practice from life studies. [T]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4565878/facepunch/VC/lamp.jpg[/T] If/when you can manage it though, the more realistic lighting can really give a off a grittier version of your painting, which I think would benefit it for the most part.
Fixed it. Thanks, Mako. My proofreading skills are non-existent. Here's the actual link: [url]http://emalietison.deviantart.com/journal/SPRING-GIVEAWAY-Win-a-free-commission-441722098[/url] And dang, Boony, we need more CC like that (of which I need to contribute and stop spamming).
Sorry I can't promote you and that I have no DA! gl [editline]21st March 2014[/editline] Boone's crit is always top notch, but I gotta say is cases like these where a work is unsalvageable/the artist has obviously bitten off more than they can chew, giving crit on aspects of the work is just a bandage really. Even if it's in-depth, there's just no way to critique something comprehensively when every single thing is wrong. You can't put a whole art education into one reply, better to just be realistic and send 'em to the back of the line imo
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;44306955]Sorry I can't promote you and that I have no DA! gl [editline]21st March 2014[/editline] Boone's crit is always top notch, but I gotta say is cases like these where a work is unsalvageable/the artist has obviously bitten off more than they can chew, giving crit on aspects of the work is just a bandage really. Even if it's in-depth, there's just no way to critique something comprehensively when every single thing is wrong. You can't put a whole art education into one reply, better to just be realistic and send 'em to the back of the line imo[/QUOTE] I think the main issue is perspective though, rather than lighting. All the realistic lighting techniques in the world won't help your art if the perspective still looks like an abstraction.
...And all the precise accurate perspective in the world won't matter if your [other thing] sucks Everything is wrong, telling him the perspective is off is useless. The "issue" is equally pressing on every front.
[QUOTE=toastedjam;44280674][IMG]http://puu.sh/7AvHF.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] [IMG]http://puu.sh/7DH1H.jpg[/IMG]
All the same issues as the last drawings you've posted. Heavily guesstimated anatomy, hideous linework, odd presentation - do you draw them on paper, scan them and then rub out the surrounding paper? If so why? It's not a pleasing look, especially when you leave big smudged haloes everywhere.
[QUOTE=Boone_Sedford;44306153] Like GNJF, it'd be best if you can look into understanding some basics of light. You picked a pretty hard topic to begin with, when using a single lamp lighting you really have to calculate how a specific color bounces off certain materials of different color, and that's something to additionally practice from life studies. [T]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4565878/facepunch/VC/lamp.jpg[/T] If/when you can manage it though, the more realistic lighting can really give a off a grittier version of your painting, which I think would benefit it for the most part.[/QUOTE] Your great examples proved to me how far I have to go (like really, really far), and I understand how much work I have to do... so I'll probably disappear for awhile and learn the basics. I feel kinda dumb for even trying to compare with you guys without knowing this stuff. Thanks for the help!
[QUOTE=dnqboy;44308732]so I'll probably disappear for awhile and learn the basics. I feel kinda dumb for even trying to compare with you guys without knowing this stuff[/QUOTE] please don't have this attitude. do some reading and then come back with some really basic studies and we'll help you out again. post everything you do. there's no point hiding and thinking you're not of the right caliber for a community at the end of the day, i think this thread is probably one of the best places to start to learn how to draw and paint. that might seem like a tall claim but lets look at the alternatives: deviantart - way too big and with no criticism culture whatever that 4chan art board is called - high standard of work, incredible harsh criticism culture cghub/polycount/conceptart - very high standards of work, can't get noticed unless you're part of the in-crowd where-as here you've got a close-knit group of what i would consider pretty much friends, a harsh criticism culture that doesn't take shit but it knows what to tell you, and when and how, and the standard of work isn't so high that it's unattainable or daunting to a new comer
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44308794]please don't have this attitude. do some reading and then come back with some really basic studies and we'll help you out again. post everything you do. there's no point hiding and thinking you're not of the right caliber for a community at the end of the day, i think this thread is probably one of the best places to start to learn how to draw and paint. that might seem like a tall claim but lets look at the alternatives: deviantart - way too big and with no criticism culture whatever that 4chan art board is called - high standard of work, incredible harsh criticism culture cghub/polycount/conceptart - very high standards of work, can't get noticed unless you're part of the in-crowd where-as here you've got a close-knit group of what i would consider pretty much friends, a harsh criticism culture that doesn't take shit but it knows what to tell you, and when and how, and the standard of work isn't so high that it's unattainable or daunting to a new comer[/QUOTE] Well, still the most useful feedback usually comes from your friends in art while chatting in skype of even meeting in real. You can just easily talk to clear up what could be improved instead of posting messages once a day. And it's really awesome if they have a better skill then you do. But other than that, yeah, non-professional art forum or subforum is probably a best place to start.
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;44308292]All the same issues as the last drawings you've posted. Heavily guesstimated anatomy, hideous linework, odd presentation - do you draw them on paper, scan them and then rub out the surrounding paper? If so why? It's not a pleasing look, especially when you leave big smudged haloes everywhere.[/QUOTE] maybe its not the drawing maybe its because i literally took a physical picture of it, but it was bad lighting in general. All those poses are drawn based off a reference not guesstimated. Maybe i just need to retake the picture and stop erasing the background paper of it. That's probably why you see the ugly halo around it and looking at it now, it is kinda awkward. [editline]21st March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;44308292]All the same issues as the last drawings you've posted. Heavily guesstimated anatomy, hideous linework, odd presentation - do you draw them on paper, scan them and then rub out the surrounding paper? If so why? It's not a pleasing look, especially when you leave big smudged haloes everywhere.[/QUOTE] Do you know any websites or videos that explains the anatomy, particularly for drawing or sketching? For some strange reason i can't find a good one, and the one's that do apparently make you pay subscription.
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;44307172]...And all the precise accurate perspective in the world won't matter if your [other thing] sucks Everything is wrong, telling him the perspective is off is useless. The "issue" is equally pressing on every front.[/QUOTE] Nah, perspective is the most important.
[QUOTE=dnqboy;44308732]Your great examples proved to me how far I have to go (like really, really far), and I understand how much work I have to do... so I'll probably disappear for awhile and learn the basics. I feel kinda dumb for even trying to compare with you guys without knowing this stuff. Thanks for the help![/QUOTE] don't disappear lol don't feel dumb either :v everyone is here to help each other because everyone starts out the same way [editline]21st March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=toastedjam;44309563]maybe its not the drawing maybe its because i literally took a physical picture of it, but it was bad lighting in general. All those poses are drawn based off a reference not guesstimated. Maybe i just need to retake the picture and stop erasing the background paper of it. That's probably why you see the ugly halo around it and looking at it now, it is kinda awkward. [editline]21st March 2014[/editline] Do you know any websites or videos that explains the anatomy, particularly for drawing or sketching? For some strange reason i can't find a good one, and the one's that do apparently make you pay subscription.[/QUOTE] what i like doing is actually staring at people on the streets or in the gym ...which probably isn't something you want to do :v:
More stuff from my sketchbook: [t]http://i.imgur.com/14Xf4Om.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/5Kyf7tH.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/352BoJP.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/xjIUaIx.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/1WA4pPu.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/BJzrWTX.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/3hgK0p6.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/lEj2KoM.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/dz0zXDs.jpg[/t]
Decided I was well over due for some sketching practice from photos. I can never do these digitally (mix of less control on tablet and my screen being far too small) so back to pencil and paper it is; [IMG]https://24.media.tumblr.com/97eaaf002129c7705e66462b68246c18/tumblr_n2t0k1R7lj1twrd1vo1_1280.png[/IMG] [t]https://31.media.tumblr.com/2cc0a4e74e803ac3aeff1a2570850b37/tumblr_n2t0k1R7lj1twrd1vo2_1280.png[/t][t]https://31.media.tumblr.com/50d59952c4e8678ceac88f0729aa69c6/tumblr_n2t0k1R7lj1twrd1vo3_1280.png[/t] [t]https://24.media.tumblr.com/645c6926e65b24f0fcccac8d662a2c2e/tumblr_n2t0k1R7lj1twrd1vo4_1280.png[/t] I hate hands. So much. With this thread as my witness I intend to do some more practice sketches daily for a while. I have a bad habit of not doing these very often
Some stuff Two big figure drawings (18"x24") from my anatomy class and the other for a painting I'll do next. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0iDYTwt.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cvvNFqb.png[/IMG] And finally finished this piece (30"x40" ink/ watercolor/ gouache) [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/nNfPjgv.png[/IMG]
i think there's something wrong with my chrome, your drawing came up like this: [img]https://hostr.co/file/kqsW0hGd4wIg/Screenshot-on-2014-03-21-at-21.20.41.png[/img] unless it's meant to look like that
wow there's something corrupted with the file cause I can't delete it or move it from my computer lol. It doesn't look like that for me tho E: now it just disappeared
It appeared fine for me.. YOu could just claim it was intentional and that you are the reincarnation of Picasso.
[QUOTE=Lilyo;44313347] And finally finished this piece (30"x40" ink/ watercolor/ gouache) [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/nNfPjgv.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] I think I see what your trying to do with the life Vs lifeless theme (?) but for me the straight black and white is really jarring in what is otherwise a nice painting. Too big of a proportion of the painting is taken up by the very flat value that the water has. Also, if I'm right about the Life Vs Lifeless thing then surely water should be coloured, Water is the essence of life. If your set on having the black and white then I think that there needs to be a softer transfer from the colour.
While trying to get used to my tablet, I felt the need to settle on a lineart style. Either clean and simple: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/b6y6yHM.png[/IMG] Or messy and chaotic: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/k4dIoTx.png[/IMG] Personally I prefer the messy one, as this is how I normally draw, but the simplicity of the clean one may come handy if I practice with it. advice?
cleaner will show your anatomical mistakes when you're learning and make the final outcome look nicer don't pet your lines
[url=http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2014/080/9/6/life_drawin__by_kartoffelgranate-d7b3iej.jpg]Here's some life drawing that I did.[/url] Linked because of nudity.
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;44314609][url=http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2014/080/9/6/life_drawin__by_kartoffelgranate-d7b3iej.jpg]Here's some life drawing that I did.[/url] Linked because of nudity.[/QUOTE] The link between the traps and the back looks really weird [editline]22nd March 2014[/editline] other than that pretty nice
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