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[QUOTE=Galactic;44440974]I won't be responding to any more posts of this vein. Nobody had any problems with my anatomy before I mentioned I was not interested in doing phallic studies, so if you have some actual criticism I'll take it, but if you just want to defend the hours you've spent staring at a man's junk then move to the debate thread.[/QUOTE] You have absolutely no idea how two draw a human being, hence why we're telling you to practice anatomy. Draw reference models with underwear on if you're offended by nudity.
[QUOTE=Galactic;44440974]I won't be responding to any more posts of this vein. Nobody had any problems with my anatomy before I mentioned I was not interested in doing phallic studies, so if you have some actual criticism I'll take it, but if you just want to defend the hours you've spent staring at a man's junk then move to the debate thread.[/QUOTE] lol anatomy isn't even about drawing penises might as well quit now then because you don't know how to draw people because you'll [i]never[/i] improve if you won't even take the time to acknowledge that you can't draw accurate human figures without making them look like those key chain wooden mannequins
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44441117]did a really quick environment study and then put some overblown noise and aberration on it to give it that kinda shitty 70s photo look [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/9f048a6fe1401b5f3c109c5083be3ab1/tumblr_n3gjvhCdHr1s32mjoo2_1280.jpg[/img] nothing too serious it's just for a game design doc for uni[/QUOTE] Reminds me of ARMA.
[QUOTE=dnqboy;44435831]Why do people make such a big deal about learning anatomy? I personally think it's awesome figuring out how and why different parts of your body work[/QUOTE] The problem I have, and it's not really just about anatomy, is that I get really discouraged from looking at my own work. I'm trying to get past that mind set, but it's pretty difficult for me. I have a few books on drawing anatomy and stuff, and I'll start to draw something like heads or hands and quickly get discouraged because I feel like I'm not making any progress. [sp]i really just want to be able to draw naked ladies all day so yeah[/sp]
[QUOTE=slayer20;44441789]The problem I have, and it's not really just about anatomy, is that I get really discouraged from looking at my own work. I'm trying to get past that mind set, but it's pretty difficult for me. I have a few books on drawing anatomy and stuff, and I'll start to draw something like heads or hands and quickly get discouraged because I feel like I'm not making any progress. [sp]i really just want to be able to draw naked ladies all day so yeah[/sp][/QUOTE] the discouragement is the encouragement to improvement i always go "wow this looks like shit" when i look at my own stuff but that makes me want to get better [editline]3rd April 2014[/editline] if you feel really discouraged and need encouragement look at stuff that you did before you started to practice and compare it
[QUOTE=slayer20;44441789]The problem I have, and it's not really just about anatomy, is that I get really discouraged from looking at my own work. I'm trying to get past that mind set, but it's pretty difficult for me. I have a few books on drawing anatomy and stuff, and I'll start to draw something like heads or hands and quickly get discouraged because I feel like I'm not making any progress. [sp]i really just want to be able to draw naked ladies all day so yeah[/sp][/QUOTE] I guess I don't have that issue as much at this point because I've done a lot of serious/not-so-serious art since I could hold a pencil. I'm not close to the level of any of the elite of this page, yet, but I can draw pretty decent figures/scenes. I just have a lot of trouble with perspective. Hopefully some intense studies of buildings and cars and stuff will help me
Played some Samurai Gunn with a friend this week and it was awesome. [img_thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/65357207/samuraigunn.png[/img_thumb]
I've been drawing objects from direct observation! A lot of them, in fact, but I won't flood the thread, so here's just one, an oak leaf I found in my backyard [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/C9klDuK.png[/IMG] Also, fun fact - I drew it too close to the side of the page so I ripped off some of the left parts of it so that I could make it fit
[QUOTE=dnqboy;44441125]Practice with reference before you start trying to do imaginary scenes[/QUOTE] Again actual criticism is useful. This is referenced, tell me what looks off. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zo0OccO5_qU#t=160[/url]
quick character and variation. same project as the environment on the last page [img]http://31.media.tumblr.com/9cdcb9c25359f27b544863feb74bb499/tumblr_n3h45ofYCH1s32mjoo1_1280.jpg[/img] holla holla paint daubsed ak
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44441117]did a really quick environment study and then put some overblown noise and aberration on it to give it that kinda shitty 70s photo look [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/9f048a6fe1401b5f3c109c5083be3ab1/tumblr_n3gjvhCdHr1s32mjoo2_1280.jpg[/img] nothing too serious it's just for a game design doc for uni[/QUOTE] i can see the effect you were trying to pull off, the color choice definitely helps with that. my only complaints are the trees to the left, they look a little too linear/flat and clash with the perspective of the buildings in front of them. edit// did some anatomy doodles [IMG]http://24.media.tumblr.com/6e3ac492549e2a2167be580c97a69b62/tumblr_n3h7wvQqXv1qbjgs6o1_1280.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Galactic;44442907]Again actual criticism is useful. This is referenced, tell me what looks off.[/QUOTE] everything
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/SRvekmd.png[/IMG] Quick study I did instead of the first commission I've had in months and gah. Updated: [img]http://i.imgur.com/hQiAJfO.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Catghost;44444133] did some anatomy doodles[/QUOTE] Is it just me or are the traps on the first one too wide? Great work though, definitely helpful. [editline]4th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44443303] holla holla paint daubsed ak[/QUOTE] I am offensive and I find this Arab
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44443303]quick character and variation. same project as the environment on the last page [img]http://31.media.tumblr.com/9cdcb9c25359f27b544863feb74bb499/tumblr_n3h45ofYCH1s32mjoo1_1280.jpg[/img] holla holla paint daubsed ak[/QUOTE] i like where this is going
[QUOTE=red_pharoah;44444295]I am offensive and I find this Arab[/QUOTE] they're south american!
Been doing a little spriting for a game I'm messing around with. [img]http://s3.postimg.org/sfjgwkzc3/1509916_10152260829670902_1716408855_n.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=slayer20;44441789]The problem I have, and it's not really just about anatomy, is that I get really discouraged from looking at my own work. I'm trying to get past that mind set, but it's pretty difficult for me. I have a few books on drawing anatomy and stuff, and I'll start to draw something like heads or hands and quickly get discouraged because I feel like I'm not making any progress. [sp]i really just want to be able to draw naked ladies all day so yeah[/sp][/QUOTE] The great art gurus of the thread may know better than me, but I used to have this issue when I first started working on improvement. Try doing some blind contour drawings, and similar things. You basically draw without looking at your paper, and generally not lifting your pencil. You just track around the object with your eyes following along with your pencil. Particularly I recommend doing them with ballpoint pen or some such so you arn't tempted to fudge around with them and erase bits once they are done. They 100% starting out will look like shit, but since you weren't really looking at the paper while you did it, it takes some of the pressure off. Even with practice things were rarely come out looking good, but its great training if you do it right. Makes a great warm-up to if you do that first to get yourself going then switch to proper figure studies and such
[IMG]http://s29.postimg.org/5o86vyiyf/IMG_1022.jpg[/IMG] Self portrait day in class
Presence. I am here, the starlight from the evening sun raining upon the world around me like diamond rays cast to rebound in every direction. Light streaming,passing through space and air and dust and smog to give beauty and life to a moment only I bear witness to. If not for my mind present in this very second and the light from the star behind me the beauty of the passing instant would be lost to the infinite invisible libraries of time. How many moments had passed before this, unseen as light spread across a very different scene, devoid of humanity and form and shaped only by the passage of time and the erosion of the element? How many beastly eyes would see and never tell the beauty they beheld in serene moments that passed as they too basked in the light from this very same star? These questions rise from the deepest recesses of the back of my mind to be examined and explored from time to time. These questions, like the moment, only exist in a second, a flash, fluid and gaseous at the same time if not for the grasping hands of my conscious mind as I am both present and absent in this instant, an entire universe taking form in my mind. From my mind spawns distant landscapes and legends untold, possibilities from the universe's long forgotten past. The light of my consciousness shines deeply into these moments, which exist only in this second in my mind. The beauty of a world into which only I can see until inspiration takes hold and talent forms. In my creation these ideas take presence upon pages and screens for other minds to take inside and process and envision. In their own individual moments mine live longer, shaped through the lenses of their own lives to perhaps be passed on to others and live on for ages beyond when the light of this star will reflect light into my eyes. My moments of vision and clarity and presence one day for long after cherished as the works of a somewhat clever mind.
[QUOTE=Galactic;44442907]Again actual criticism is useful. This is referenced, tell me what looks off. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zo0OccO5_qU#t=160[/url][/QUOTE] Not everybody has time for a full crit. I suggest finding a figure drawing night class or something near you, or looking up figure drawing videos on youtube and taking it from there. The basic skills of figure drawing are things that I think you only really need somebody to show you briefly before you have enough understanding to go away and build your own knowledge and skills on your own. If anybody here has the time to give you a mini lecture on figure drawing (use of gesture, building form from outside vs linear silhouettes, loose measuring of the subject etc) then please feel free, but I know it's hard to find time to write about all that. I disagree that you should do only studies before you do imagined stuff - keep the balance that gets you the skills and results you want while still keeping it interesting for yourself. [editline]4th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44443303]quick character and variation. same project as the environment on the last page [img]http://31.media.tumblr.com/9cdcb9c25359f27b544863feb74bb499/tumblr_n3h45ofYCH1s32mjoo1_1280.jpg[/img] holla holla paint daubsed ak[/QUOTE] Chesty ur getting too good
little dude to help tide over this tornado warning [IMG]https://24.media.tumblr.com/522a28d75779e254a3e3b38848fa920e/tumblr_n3hjqmPTJw1qd5eico1_1280.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Galactic;44443392]How 'bout we don't. Let's just say that people are different and as far as the internet is concerned and regardless which cultures you accept as valid, the people that follow them are going to keep living the same way they were before you spoke to them. If someone asks your opinion on a piece of their work and you respond to that by trying to inject [B][I]your[/I][/B] idealized culture you are being slimy and insulting. This is not the thread for being slimy and insulting, we already have one like that. I suggest you use the time you are in contact with people to be constructive and critique the work they offer rather than attacking their culture.[/QUOTE] Nobody said anything about culture you muppet Or phallic studies Your pictures of people are shitty because you have not studied anatomy. You are wasting your time and anybody's time who decides to reply to your contributions when you post a doodle and want to cherry pick constructive crit that appeals to you. The fact is there's no point in giving you any critique because as you've been told [B]everything is wrong.[/B] You are not succeeding in a single aspect. If you're serious about drawing people you need to go away and study how they're built from the ground up (not to mention attaining some basic drawing skills before getting into something like that). Not every piece someone does needs or deserves crit. Critique is really valuable to you when you've got rudimentary knowledge of what you're trying to do and you've done your drawing to the best of your ability, but it's not perfect [I]and you cannot identify yourself what is wrong, or don't know how to fix it.[/I] If you ask for CC on something like you're doing currently, there is nothing anyone can do for you short of writing out an entire art education in text. You have to meet us halfway. Stop posting and study anatomy. All you need is a good book on the subject and the drive to work at it.
C&C on these, please! [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/ggMv3G8.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/K1t9A5w.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/qPcfpjJ.jpg[/img_thumb]
Try drawing them naked? Really interesting silhouette on that last one btw
[QUOTE=Eric95;44444209]everything[/QUOTE] I've played a bully, victim and bystander and there's only one role I don't regret. Pick on me if it spares the people around you from you lashing out. I know life can be tough.
I know this is mostly for drawn art, but I'd love some C&C on the prologue to some episodic thing I'm doing. Thinking of posting it chapter by chapter to a blog or something, but I'm mostly writing it to get the hang of story structure and such. [quote] Ever heard of the phrase: “looks can be deceiving?” It’s such a tired old phrase that’s been said hundreds of thousands of times before, but I guess there’s reason for that. This one-horse-town of Dunestown, the name itself just sounds insignificant. To the eye, too, there’s not much to see: a general store, a bar, a stable, a house or two in-town, and a few ranches out in the plains. The only thing that keeps this town on anyone’s mind is the fact that it lies at a fork of a fairly major trade road that connects our dusty village to the industrious smoke of the cities off in the distance. Still, we’re just a small bump in the road for most, no less, but, I dare say, possibly more, if you keep your ear to the ground. As for me, I run the bar in town, The Faithful Drunkard. A strange name, yes. My dad told me he named it after it some homeless priest that wandered into town preaching to everyone about God knows what while he gulped down bottle after bottle of whiskey. There really isn’t too much to say about me, otherwise; I consider myself not much of a remarkable person. I took over the bar after my father passed away about a decade ago, and I’ve been serving passersby ever since. One thing I’ve learned as a bartender is that some people almost seem to lose reason to censor themselves after only a couple shots of whiskey. It’s strange, almost. It’s like the alcohol makes them your best friend. They tell you anything that’s on their mind sometimes, and let me tell you that you’d be surprised what some people would tell a complete stranger when they’re inebriated. Sometimes it’s barely intelligible gibberish, stories about cheese and the “fake people.” It’s quite funny sometimes, and definitely hard to keep a straight face! Other times, though, they tell you their life stories. At times, they’re predictably dull. Other times, though, they tell some of the most interesting things. Everything from adventures in the plains to where they buried the body. Yes, I’ve been told quite gruesome tales over the years, but being the man I am I have no interest to toil in the middle of these men. I just keep to my neutrality and give token pieces of advice whenever I can. This brings me to what the purpose of this tome and why I write. Some of these stories these travelers tell, whether they be incredible, unbelievable, happy, or grim, are in essence quite unique. These tales from the trails are, in my humble opinion, far better than what little fiction I’ve read in my lifetime, and, in a strange way, I find myself a small bit saddened that I may be the only ear these stories may ever touch. On top of that, sometimes even the most thought-provoking, dramatic stories I hear sometimes are just lost in the back corners of my own mind, and though sometimes I search for them the simple truth is that I have entirely forgotten them. Over the decade I’ve tended to this tavern, many stories have staggered in and out, lost to the tests of time. Therefore, I have decided to write down some of what I hear in hopes there will be no more plots forgotten again. Who knows? Maybe I’ll publish them one day. [/quote] It's quite short and simplistic, I know, but I want to see if there's anything screechingly wrong with it that I'm just not seeing.
[QUOTE=Yakekuso;44447325]C&C on these, please! [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/ggMv3G8.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/K1t9A5w.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/qPcfpjJ.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] You need to work on gaining an understanding of perspective and proportions. Being able to draw spheres, cubes, cylinders, and oblique shapes at different angles and distances can help a lot with this. Eventually you realize that when constructing the human form one must first have a simple framework that outlines how the individual shapes that make up the human body distort through space. Everything from the arms and legs to the nose and eyes have perspective, and they need to be lined up along the sides of what they are attached to and drawn in proper perspective to look natural.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;44446122]Not everybody has time for a full crit. I suggest finding a figure drawing night class or something near you, or looking up figure drawing videos on youtube and taking it from there. The basic skills of figure drawing are things that I think you only really need somebody to show you briefly before you have enough understanding to go away and build your own knowledge and skills on your own. If anybody here has the time to give you a mini lecture on figure drawing (use of gesture, building form from outside vs linear silhouettes, loose measuring of the subject etc) then please feel free, but I know it's hard to find time to write about all that. I disagree that you should do only studies before you do imagined stuff - keep the balance that gets you the skills and results you want while still keeping it interesting for yourself. [editline]4th April 2014[/editline] Chesty ur getting too good[/QUOTE] I think it's telling that 90% of your content is vague criticism and the other 10% is this [QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;44381823]Practicing anatomy style and light in equal measure here I guess, no ref [img]http://i.gyazo.com/63d47d0022d5dd037e9068b3e0eeee68.png[/img] [/QUOTE] I'll give you a bit of helpful advice... don't draw people with two right arms. They need both a right and a left. If you accidentally draw two right don't be afraid to erase one and draw it correctly, just ask yourself one question: "Do I want to do this fast or do it well?" In the meantime don't sweat picking on me, better than you hurting someone in person or kicking a dog. Powerlessness sucks sometimes you got to let it out somewhere. I draw and play violent video games. I'll get useful crit elsewhere.
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