When this sort of thing happens in FULS we call them a mini-boss and somebody posts music in accompaniment
[video=youtube;-YCN-a0NsNk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YCN-a0NsNk[/video]
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to be honest though i'd love to see you keep posting and i'd love to see you improve, because i like seeing that in everyone
but with your attitude towards the human body, while still attempting to draw it without even knowing what it looks like is unacceptable
[QUOTE=Yakekuso;44447325]C&C on these, please!
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/ggMv3G8.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
You might want to look into this artist [URL=http://pantsu-pirate.deviantart.com/art/Proper-Quality-438174068?q=gallery%3Apantsu-pirate&qo=3]pan!ies[/URL] if you haven't already, he's one of the original illustrators from KS.
this piece just kinda reminded me of his work..
[QUOTE=Galactic;44448057]I think it's telling that 90% of your content is vague criticism and the other 10% is this
I'll give you a bit of helpful advice... don't draw people with two right arms. They need both a right and a left. If you accidentally draw two right don't be afraid to erase one and draw it correctly, just ask yourself one question: "Do I want to do this fast or do it well?"
In the meantime don't sweat picking on me, better than you hurting someone in person or kicking a dog.
Powerlessness sucks sometimes you got to let it out somewhere. I draw and play violent video games.
I'll get useful crit elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
10% of [I]my[/I] content is vague criticism? You mean the content in my only interaction with you so far; the single post you quoted?
did you confuse me with mako or ?
I know it's a bit of a shock when some people here give you replies like 'everything you are doing is wrong'; it does seem a bit harsh sometimes, and it's not the sort of criticism I like to give - obviously it's not a very supportive thing to say, especially to somebody who's serious about getting their skills up.
My suggestion still stands; the best thing I feel you can do right now is spend just an hour or two getting talked at by a professional, whether in a life drawing class or through Youtube videos. They'll introduce you to basic principles of drawing, contrast, capturing shapes in the correct proportions, etc, etc.
Learning the foundations are key here, and once you know then and do a couple of drawings trying to apply them I promise that you will see improvement, and you'll be able to compare your drawings and see the differences. You'll be able to do a self critique, which is valuable too. I'm not trying to be a dick and duck out of making an effort to help you; but it is genuinely asking too much of us to try to write out and explain all the foundation skills that you need when there are resources already out there that can give you a decent crash course.
[QUOTE=Galactic;44448057]
I'll get useful crit elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
Look, you really need to focus on improving basic anatomy (you don't need to draw figures, even though it might help). When I first started out I didn't want to take art classes because they were "too boring" and wanted me to focus on the basics first. It took me two years to realize the skull had cheekbones, and that was after I did a reference. The another four years to realize that elbows align with the S curve. All that because I wouldn't draw the basics first (which I am sure would've accelerated my knowledge much quicker.
I went from this:
[img_thumb]http://imageshack.com/a/img801/5673/imag0212xw.jpg[/img_thumb]
To this:
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/Q63KYwm.jpg[/img_thumb]
because I was actually trying to focus on anatomy, even though I never studied it "right" (I used the "observe my own proportions" method) and I still have to improve alot before I can actually draw realistically.
Anyway, you're being a baby now. There's no such thing as "not useful criticism", because you can use all and any criticism you take (speaking of which I would like some). There's only constructive and bad criticism, in the latter the criticizer never actually specifically tells you what's wrong or how to fix it.
Also a useful thing is to criticize yourself, never be satisfied by your work (unless it is truly marvelous) and seek out what you feel is wrong with it.
[QUOTE=Galactic;44442907]Again actual criticism is useful. This is referenced, tell me what looks off.
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This is why people don't want to help you. I was trying to be useful, but if you're gonna reply with a snide comment, then forget it. Your picture didn't look referenced at all, so I assumed it wasn't
[QUOTE=red_pharoah;44448570]The another four years to realize that elbows align with the S curve[/QUOTE]
Wait what?
could you elaborate on what this is?
[QUOTE=Matrix374;44448887]Wait what?
could you elaborate on what this is?[/QUOTE]
Your back does a natural S curve, with a slightly similar curve from the sides (more apparent in women). The curve is concave the most right before the waist.
If you put your arms straight next to your abdomen, the elbow coincides with the concave-most part
Here, I made this quick sketch elaborating my understanding of it:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/M25Fcae.png[/img]
Also, Galactic, I tortured the sci-fi girl drawing with red lines, and added a bunch of basic anatomy proportions:
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/HoB8xap.png[/img_thumb]
[QUOTE=red_pharoah;44449118]Your back does a natural S curve, with a slightly similar curve from the sides (more apparent in women). The curve is concave the most right before the waist.
If you put your arms straight next to your abdomen, the elbow coincides with the concave-most part
Here, I made this quick sketch elaborating my understanding of it:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/M25Fcae.png[/img]
Also, Galactic, I tortured the sci-fi girl drawing with red lines, and added a bunch of basic anatomy proportions:
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/HoB8xap.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
It took four years to learn that? As far as I can tell it's not very accurate and also highly circumstantial :v:
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;44449483]It took four years to learn that? As far as I can tell it's not very accurate and also highly circumstantial :v:[/QUOTE]
It didn't take me four years to learn it. I didn't know about it for four years.
I say naked isn't deep enough. Draw past the dermal layer to the underlying musculature. No, deeper; draw the skeletons, simplified if you have to. But that doesn't really mean you are drawing the person. Go deeper;capture the essence of the soul, a pit of an abyss, for is a person their flesh and bone? Are we anything at all? There, there's your solution: just don't draw a person and you've perfectly drawn a person.
But really, memorizing anatomical structures helps a bunch.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;44445860][IMG]http://s29.postimg.org/5o86vyiyf/IMG_1022.jpg[/IMG]
Self portrait day in class[/QUOTE]
Okay apart from that being very, [I]very[/I] well drawn, that smug face you're making in it is so brilliant I burst out laughing. :v:
Did you adjust the ear though? seems too far back.
[editline]4th April 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=red_pharoah;44449118][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/HoB8xap.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
eeh, I'd suggest practicing a bit more yourself before redlining
[QUOTE=wewt!;44449666]
eeh, I'd suggest practicing a bit more yourself before redlining[/QUOTE]
I knew that, but nobody else would redline.
[editline]4th April 2014[/editline]
Also I really need to know how Joey made those highlights. Was he drawing on a grey paper and used a white pencil or something?
i think some of it is lucky camera flash.
[QUOTE=red_pharoah;44449770]I knew that, but nobody else would redline.
[editline]4th April 2014[/editline]
Also I really need to know how Joey made those highlights. Was he drawing on a grey paper and used a white pencil or something?[/QUOTE]
Chalk or pastel most likely
And nobody else would redline it because it's uncorrectable, you would have to draw an entirely new figure from scratch to fix it
Not to mention it's Galactic we're talking about, there are lots of people posting stuff in here who deserve feedback a lot more than he does
First page of a six page comic I'm working on. The page isn't finished yet, there are still holes in the tones, speechbubbles and sound effects are missing.
I originally wanted it to be in colors, but it takes too much time. Considering I want make a on going web series, I think I have to settle with this style.
[thumb]http://oi62.tinypic.com/14e77zk.jpg[/thumb]
[QUOTE=Maloof?;44446122]Chesty ur getting too good[/QUOTE]
thank you that's very kind. i can only paint tho really. i'll learn drawing when i finish uni
it's weird that i have improved actually because i've basically spent the last 6 months not painting up until recently. maybe getting away from it helped. and i did a lot of reading about light and materials because of my 3d work
[QUOTE=Lilyo;44448110]No don't leave.. come back...[/QUOTE]
Let it out fella, I'm here as long as you need me. Parents getting a divorce? Social security check got lost in the mail? Take it out on me.
[QUOTE=Galactic;44450081]Let it out fella, I'm here as long as you need me? Parents getting a divorce? Social security check got lost in the mail? Take it out on me.[/QUOTE]
Why dont we nail you on a cross while we're at it.
[QUOTE=Hikkotch;44450051]
[thumb]http://oi62.tinypic.com/14e77zk.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE]
Rule #1 - Cardio
[QUOTE=Hikkotch;44450051]First page of a six page comic I'm working on. The page isn't finished yet, there are still holes in the tones, speechbubbles and sound effects are missing.
I originally wanted it to be in colors, but it takes too much time. Considering I want make a on going web series, I think I have to settle with this style.
[thumb]http://oi62.tinypic.com/14e77zk.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE]
this is really nice. i think tones will be fine for a webcomic
[QUOTE=pansarkurt;44450135]Why dont we nail you on a cross while we're at it.
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Does it make you feel better after you've said it?
[editline]4th April 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=dnqboy;44448842]This is why people don't want to help you. I was trying to be useful, but if you're gonna reply with a snide comment, then forget it. Your picture didn't look referenced at all, so I assumed it wasn't[/QUOTE]
I included the reference in that post. It's a video, I screen-capped the little jump she made and drew off of that.
I don't see what's so bad about it that has everyone so exited or else I wouldn't have posted the reference and asked for more abuse.
It's national bro day so I did a quick painting of me and mah blood brother.
[img]http://s27.postimg.org/bnklbvbz7/Dan.png[/img]
Sweet mother of god.
[QUOTE=red_pharoah;44449118]
Also, Galactic, I tortured the sci-fi girl drawing with red lines, and added a bunch of basic anatomy proportions:
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/HoB8xap.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
Thank you so much!
I think I'll print this.
-edit-
Considering I'm getting feedback now I dug up my photobucket password and uploaded the ref from my phone. If I could get any more detailed criticism.
[IMG]http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/gn8r/Screenshot_2014-04-01-16-22-49.png?t=1396623397[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Hikkotch;44450051]First page of a six page comic I'm working on. The page isn't finished yet, there are still holes in the tones, speechbubbles and sound effects are missing.
I originally wanted it to be in colors, but it takes too much time. Considering I want make a on going web series, I think I have to settle with this style.
[thumb]http://oi62.tinypic.com/14e77zk.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE]
I'm really hoping the zombie gets her
[QUOTE=normandy;44449528][B]I say naked isn't deep enough. Draw past the dermal layer to the underlying musculature. No, deeper; draw the skeletons, simplified if you have to.[/B] But that doesn't really mean you are drawing the person. Go deeper;capture the essence of the soul, a pit of an abyss, for is a person their flesh and bone? Are we anything at all? There, there's your solution: just don't draw a person and you've perfectly drawn a person.
But really, memorizing anatomical structures helps a bunch.[/QUOTE]
this pretty much, get an understanding of what goes on under the skin. Once you know why things act the way they do, you get such a better feel for how to portray it.
[editline]4th April 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=red_pharoah;44449770]
Also I really need to know how Joey made those highlights. Was he drawing on a grey paper and used a white pencil or something?[/QUOTE]
looks like white charcoal to me on toned paper to me
What you bolded was my serious intention. Anatomy does ya good.
yeh, but getting the hang of drawing the soul is a pretty big part of it too. All of it is pretty much Life Drawing 101
[QUOTE=Galactic;44450191]Does it make you feel better after you've said it?
[editline]4th April 2014[/editline]
I included the reference in that post. It's a video, I screen-capped the little jump she made and drew off of that.
I don't see what's so bad about it that has everyone so exited or else I wouldn't have posted the reference and asked for more abuse.[/QUOTE]
God, you are such a drama queen.
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