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[QUOTE=imMonkeyGOD;44758993]I'm pretty comfortable with Photoshop in general. I know the tools well enough to mess around with it and the video timeline aspect of it seem pretty basic for animation. It's got onion skins, allows you to duplicate frames and you can modify a frame as if it was an image for Photoshop. Flash is also vector based which I'm not exactly a fan of how it looks. The only bitmap based animation software I'm aware of is Photoshop and TVPaint. I probably didn't give it a chance but TVPaint's UI always felt sluggish to me and seemed out of date. Also, I would not advise using Photoshop as a video editing tool. I animate each shot separately in different PSDs and use a separate video-editing tool to put it together.[/QUOTE] There are tons of 2D animation programs not tailor suited for vector based graphics. Most of them have very unserious sounding names and the covers doesn't necessarily look that promising either. But they are definitely fit for purpose. This here lists most of them: [url]http://2d-animation-software-review.toptenreviews.com/[/url] You can definitely animate in Photoshop, but much in the same way that you can design magazines and work with 3D models in Photoshop. You can do it, but it's far from optimal and just falls more under the idea that "I can do anything with Photoshop so why use anything else?". It's a very easy option to fall for and lock yourself into when you don't know much about anything else. I would not advice using Photoshop for video either, that's why I said it had an UI that was not fit for purpose and compared it to an actual video editing program.
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;44726931]Making a book cover for my mom. All I know is that the book is a historical romance novel about a french woman falling in love with a scottish dude. This is a super quick mock-up of what I wanna do, just to get the layout in place. -old test cover- Maybe I'll put a thistle in the middle of the paper thing. Thoughts?[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.imgur.com/1XnqdoX.png[/t] Pretty much done.
It looks much improved but the color and simplicity of the corner symbols don't lend themselves well to the style of any other elements.
[QUOTE=Biscuit-Boy;44759263]It looks much improved but the color and simplicity of the corner symbols don't lend themselves well to the style of any other elements.[/QUOTE] Yeah I know. I tried playing around with those but nothing really worked right. Any ideas?
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;44759268]Yeah I know. I tried playing around with those but nothing really worked right. Any ideas?[/QUOTE] Perhaps a full border with the fleur de lis worked into it rather than having them stand alone?
I apologize if this isn't the correct place to post this, but I figure considering you guys are some of the artsy types you might be able to help me out... When I was 14, I went dumpsterdiving and found two paintings, one small one which I keep in my room, and the other which is a very large one with a signature "Havell" [t]http://i.imgur.com/tvduKbj.jpg[/t] Does anyone have any idea who this painter might be? It's always been a source of fascination with people coming into our house, and my family would really like to know more about it!
I'd isolate the fleur de lis with a trim of different fabric - a border around the entire piece. As it is now the more organic forms of the fleur clash with the grid of the tartan. I'd also consider emulating brocade or embroidery for the text instead of using the somewhat overdone scroll motif
[QUOTE=Reno360;44759909]Perhaps a full border with the fleur de lis worked into it rather than having them stand alone?[/QUOTE] That is a great idea. I already considered that if it was too small, I'd make some kind of frame for it. I'll definitely give it a shot. [QUOTE=Maloof?;44759993]I'd isolate the fleur de lis with a trim of different fabric - a border around the entire piece. As it is now the more organic forms of the fleur clash with the grid of the tartan. I'd also consider emulating brocade or embroidery for the text instead of using the somewhat overdone scroll motif[/QUOTE] I completely agree, but the scroll was something my mom requested, I made a few mockups and she really liked the scroll bit. She is paying me for this, so she gets what she wants.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44759981]I apologize if this isn't the correct place to post this, but I figure considering you guys are some of the artsy types you might be able to help me out... When I was 14, I went dumpsterdiving and found two paintings, one small one which I keep in my room, and the other which is a very large one with a signature "Havell" [t]http://i.imgur.com/tvduKbj.jpg[/t] Does anyone have any idea who this painter might be? It's always been a source of fascination with people coming into our house, and my family would really like to know more about it![/QUOTE] It's going to be a reproduction either way.
[QUOTE=dgg;44759131]You can definitely animate in Photoshop, but much in the same way that you can design magazines and work with 3D models in Photoshop. You can do it, but it's far from optimal and just falls more under the idea that "I can do anything with Photoshop so why use anything else?". It's a very easy option to fall for and lock yourself into when you don't know much about anything else.[/QUOTE] Everyone has their preferences. If there was a better option imo I would not be afraid to branch out and use it. I know Photoshop would not be best used for video editing nor 3D modelling since there are better suited programs like Premiere/Sony Vegas or Maya/3DS Max. That animation had a mixture of programs used like Maya, After Effects and Sony Vegas so I'm not really locking myself. Photoshop gave me results I envisioned and I'm happy with it. You may have had your own issues but I really didn't have anything that complicated the progress of the animation.
[QUOTE=dgg;44758588]Huh, why would you make an animation that complicated in a nitpicky and user-unfriendly (animation wise) program like Photoshop?[/QUOTE] more comprehensive illustration tools to make for animations that don't look like flash smoothed vectors, a.k.a, absolute shit. [url]https://vimeo.com/69829328[/url] All photoshop. You can't get anything close to that with vectors.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44759981]I apologize if this isn't the correct place to post this, but I figure considering you guys are some of the artsy types you might be able to help me out... When I was 14, I went dumpsterdiving and found two paintings, one small one which I keep in my room, and the other which is a very large one with a signature "Havell" [t]http://i.imgur.com/tvduKbj.jpg[/t] Does anyone have any idea who this painter might be? It's always been a source of fascination with people coming into our house, and my family would really like to know more about it![/QUOTE] It doesn't look like a masterpiece, I don't think we're talking about a famous artist there. You'll probably have a hard time finding out any more about an old print by some unknown person found in a bin years ago :v:
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44759981]I apologize if this isn't the correct place to post this, but I figure considering you guys are some of the artsy types you might be able to help me out... When I was 14, I went dumpsterdiving and found two paintings, one small one which I keep in my room, and the other which is a very large one with a signature "Havell" [t]http://i.imgur.com/tvduKbj.jpg[/t] Does anyone have any idea who this painter might be? It's always been a source of fascination with people coming into our house, and my family would really like to know more about it![/QUOTE] Robert Havell (possibly Jr. ?) Compare with these two: [t]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7Z7Gyv0FdEs/T-3lDo0d-QI/AAAAAAAABQ8/1eoATPEbDQU/s1600/havell+sea.jpg[/t] [img]http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTExOVgxNjAw/$(KGrHqVHJCME7y-RUez0BPG5+cU5j!~~60_35.JPG[/img] Now the chances are you don't have a real piece of his considering the painting was thrown away. [editline]8th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;44760406]It doesn't look like a masterpiece, I don't think we're talking about a famous artist there. You'll probably have a hard time finding out any more about an old print by some unknown person found in a bin years ago :v:[/QUOTE] If an artist made something that ever sold, you can probably find stuff about him online.
Hrm, Havell returned nothing for me when I searched.
The signatures are remarkably similar, but I'd have to probably agree with Lilyo... It's probably a reproduction or someone trying to copy his painting. It is a fantastic painting though, goes well with a few other nature paintings I've found. Also it seems that someone tore apart the brown-paper backing which would of had a watermark or indentification... Nine times out of ten that means it's a repro :/ I still contacted a local curator to see if they can give me any idea of what it is. The painting is not appearing on any image/painting searches for either Robert Havell Jr. and Robert Havell. By the way... Since you guys are being really helpful I figure I'd take some close ups of it! [t]http://i.imgur.com/9mkzbuW.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/hL8rfXh.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/VHOtP2E.jpg[/t] You guys think I should take a shot on one of Reddit's art sections by the way?
Just to add to the "animating in Photoshop" discussion, we animate Senpai Club and such in Photoshop and it works just fine. Flash makes shitty lines
SEN-PAI-KU-RA-BU goddamnit
[QUOTE=Eric95;44761339]Just to add to the "animating in Photoshop" discussion, we animate Senpai Club and such in Photoshop and it works just fine. Flash makes shitty lines[/QUOTE] Flash just has a shitty smoothing technique, tuning the smoothing down (something like 30-0%) makes the lines less squiggly. [editline]9th May 2014[/editline] Personally I prefer Flash because it uses vector drawing, and saves me a ton of time if I make a mistake.
[QUOTE=Eric95;44761339]Just to add to the "animating in Photoshop" discussion, we animate Senpai Club and such in Photoshop and it works just fine. Flash makes shitty lines[/QUOTE] Flash only has shitty lines if you're messy and quick. Take time, smooth appropriately, and make sure stuff is even and it'll look fine. You could also use the pencil tool which is much easier to animate with then brushes.
[QUOTE=Garb;44762274]Flash only has shitty lines if you're messy and quick. Take time, smooth appropriately, and make sure stuff is even and it'll look fine. You could also use the pencil tool which is much easier to animate with then brushes.[/QUOTE] Well yeah but then it's easier to just do it in Photoshop and get nice lines right away. Sometimes if really smooth frame-by-frame animation is needed I do the roughs in Flash just because of how much faster it is to use for that kind of thing but we always clean up with Photoshop
Some doodle of one of my teachers during the class. [t] http://i.imgur.com/z0xrQcS.jpg[/T]
[QUOTE=Garb;44762274]Flash only has shitty lines if you've made a stylistic preference before using any software. Take time, smooth appropriately, and make sure stuff is even and it'll look generic as shit and just like all other flash animation line work. [/QUOTE] ftfy
[t]http://i.imgur.com/X0r5Yor.gif[/t] I stopped being lazy and did digital linework over my pencil sketch like Mako suggested Any resemblance to a chubby hourglass-loving artist's work is entirely coincidental and does not reflect the intent of the owner of the picture in question
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44761241]The signatures are remarkably similar, but I'd have to probably agree with Lilyo... It's probably a reproduction or someone trying to copy his painting. It is a fantastic painting though, goes well with a few other nature paintings I've found. Also it seems that someone tore apart the brown-paper backing which would of had a watermark or indentification... Nine times out of ten that means it's a repro :/ I still contacted a local curator to see if they can give me any idea of what it is. The painting is not appearing on any image/painting searches for either Robert Havell Jr. and Robert Havell. By the way... Since you guys are being really helpful I figure I'd take some close ups of it! [t]http://i.imgur.com/9mkzbuW.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/hL8rfXh.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/VHOtP2E.jpg[/t] You guys think I should take a shot on one of Reddit's art sections by the way?[/QUOTE] I mean it's not a print though right? It might be a good reproduction or the actual thing.
snip this for now
Viewed as a thumbnail the overall scheme is still a little flat. I want to say I'd maybe like a lot more white and potentially a darker sky to add some contrast. Texture is indeed very cool, although I don't really understand what's going on.
[QUOTE=Biscuit-Boy;44768552]Viewed as a thumbnail the overall scheme is still a little flat. I want to say I'd maybe like a lot more white and potentially a darker sky to add some contrast. Texture is indeed very cool, although I don't really understand what's going on.[/QUOTE] it was an abstract thing at first but then i went for a half-life 3 theme. it's a combine ship trapped in xen. [editline]9th May 2014[/editline] i agree with you, it is kinda flat. [editline]9th May 2014[/editline] i hate it right now lol.
xen is stylised with a lot of orange and brown
omg what have i done D:
gj faggoy
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