[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;45071407]This isn't the first time you've mentioned your Advanced Higher Art, I think you should let it go
It's pretty blatant that that course/subject/whatever was worthless bullshit with a grandiose title, especially considering those images got you high marks. They're adolescent loser angst as portrayed through entry-level photoshop tomfoolery[/QUOTE]
Don't be such a dick. If you push a student too hard then all they'll do is just fall down.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45071487]I never said they were masterpieces. Who are you to stomp on something I was happy to do? Isn't art supposed to be enjoyed? Are you saying I shouldn't be happy about what I did? That damn grade got me into University, but that's not my point here. Also, it's not "teen angst" crap, I haven't told a fraction of what inspired me to make them.
If you're really being that judgmental about someones Art, implying that it's not something to be happy about, that to be proud of my work is stupid, then you not only do you lack empathy, you lack appreciation of Art as a whole.[/QUOTE]
You're right. Art should be something that should be enjoyed, but that really doesn't make the end product any better. You gotta realize your mistakes so you can learn from them. Even though Mako was a dick he still had a point, and he knows what he's talking about so I'd say listen to him.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45071487]I never said they were masterpieces. Who are you to stomp on something I was happy to do? Isn't art supposed to be enjoyed? Are you saying I shouldn't be happy about what I did? That damn grade got me into University, but that's not my point here. Also, it's not "teen angst" crap, I haven't told a fraction of what inspired me to make them.
If you're really being that judgmental about someones Art, implying that it's not something to be happy about, that to be proud of my work is stupid, then you not only do you lack empathy, you lack appreciation of Art as a whole.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/zb2aiK7.png[/img] x [B]1[/B] (list)
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Don't be a dick." - Swebonny))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Blazedol;45071558]Don't be such a dick. If you push a student too hard then all they'll do is just fall down.
You're right. Art should be something that should be enjoyed, but that really doesn't make the end product any better. You gotta realize your mistakes so you can learn from them. Even though Mako was a dick he still had a point, and he knows what he's talking about so I'd say listen to him.[/QUOTE]
Hey, I know it was pretty shit, I made sure to state that at the start. What pissed me off was the way he was being a pretentious twat and jumping to conclusions about something that I had already stated, had a lot more to it than I was willing to talk about.
I'm pretty shit at anything Arty, sure I get loads of ideas but I can never translate them well to paper (or otherwise) but that is precisely why I'm happy about those pieces, despite them being so bad: they got me a top level grade in school (Scotland's education system has since changed though) and more importantly, got me into University. That last point is why the piece about hope means so much, because the only hope I had at the time was to get into University and away from the hell that was where I was brought up. To be honest if I hadn't made it to University, I'd probably be dead, that was nearly the case more than once.
[QUOTE=lintz;45042815]alternatively, buy a monoprice
[url]http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=113&cp_id=11303[/url][/QUOTE]
Sadly, these aren't available in my country
[QUOTE=double D;45071749]Sadly, these aren't available in my country[/QUOTE]
i'm pretty sure they do shipping, since that's how i got mine.
I know literary works aren't much commented in here, but I just wanted to share a little something I worked very hard on recently. It's about inner torment and the struggle of acceptance some go through when presented with things outside their scope of understanding.
My my, what is this;
as far as I can see,
koalas roaming his scenery. Don't
often complain,
"can anyone help"
and yet,
not listen
,
to words often given. Listen,
that sound
a tearing and cutting,
know you wound. These
edges are sharp,
and some cannot handle
looking at such
leviathans of emotion;
too tender, too
heartfelt and
indivisibly
secret. Keep
enunciating that
deviant capital,
great works
you make are truly
Art, if only you are
roused and satisfied
that they are so.
[QUOTE=lintz;45071998]i'm pretty sure they do shipping, since that's how i got mine.[/QUOTE]
They do, but it will cost me almost the price of one of those tablets in shipping fees, ontop of the price of the tablet itself ofcourse
yeah but the thing is, it's still cheaper than the equivalent wacom.
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;45071638][img]http://i.imgur.com/zb2aiK7.png[/img] x [B]1[/B] (list)[/QUOTE]
The thing is, UK art courses reward fedora tipping art. That's why I didn't do it at all when it came to picking my subjects, it was a load of shit. It annoys me that this is what art in UK schools is, focusing on pretentious bullshit meaning rather than technical skill.
It annoys me because I know I have cool ideas, I know my friends have cool ideas, I know the majority of people have cool ideas. Very few people are lacking in inspiration entirely to produce art, very many people lack the technical skill to actually produce it in a way which comes across properly.
So I didn't do any art courses in school. I resent the fact that there were no opportunities to properly learn to draw.
[QUOTE=kepper;45069886]Partially motivated to keep working on personal stuff. Drained from some huge paintings I made for last semester. Largest one was 5 ft by 3ft 8in, acrylic on Masonite.
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30622781/mechpilot%20%282%29.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I dig the design, but I think you should note how sky light works for future reference. I'm no pro at it, but I'm pretty sure skylight wouldn't work in the same way as a blue spot light (a blue backlighting in your picture). Since it covers the entire sky (unlike sunlight), it should diffuse completely around the surface of the figures i.e.
[T]http://lionguardians.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/elephants-copy.jpg[/T]
How much a surface shines from a light also varies between the colors of the two agents. I.e. a blue light can't reflect off red surfaces so it looks black/darker. So in terms of the blue-white light of the sky, it won't actually show much on the orange of her hair unless it's very reflective/shiny.
when i was doing gcse art, it was full of so much pretentious bullshit, and studying different artists and making us worth with different mediums that i never progressed as an artist because i was never taught properly about any techniques and i was never working on any project/medium long enough to develop a feel, appreciation or skill with it.
and that is why i got a C in gcse art, which is funny considering i'm now studying animation.
Thanks for good advice guys, appreciate it.
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;45071407]This isn't the first time you've mentioned your Advanced Higher Art, I think you should let it go
It's pretty blatant that that course/subject/whatever was worthless bullshit with a grandiose title, especially considering those images got you high marks. They're adolescent loser angst as portrayed through entry-level photoshop tomfoolery[/QUOTE]
why can't you let him be proud of his work? he knows they're not the best, that's not what matters.
[editline]11th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=lintz;45073429]when i was doing gcse art, it was full of so much pretentious bullshit, and studying different artists and making us worth with different mediums that i never progressed as an artist because i was never taught properly about any techniques and i was never working on any project/medium long enough to develop a feel, appreciation or skill with it.
and that is why i got a C in gcse art, which is funny considering i'm now studying animation.[/QUOTE]
shit i got a D in my gcse art and now i'm doing animation at bournemouth, where are you studying?
I got a shit education too so I never really got into it. It was a last minute decision to go to University. I want to do VFX but this was the closest I could get seen as I couldn't afford to live in Edinburgh.
In High school, my art teacher was lazy, distracted, always talked about shit television. Not to mention that from the end of 3rd year til 6th year the whole school was undergoing a reconstruction so there was a hell of a lot of noise 24/7 so everyone was just in a bad mood the whole time..
I wish I'd been more interested in art at an earlier age.
[QUOTE=Bobie;45074229]why can't you let him be proud of his work? he knows they're not the best, that's not what matters.
[editline]11th June 2014[/editline]
shit i got a D in my gcse art and now i'm doing animation at bournemouth, where are you studying?[/QUOTE]
you're joking, what year are you in?
[QUOTE=lintz;45074499]you're joking, what year are you in?[/QUOTE]
Frank he goes aub and is my housemate
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49067800/Draw/Chaac.png[/t]
Gonna throw this into the Smite Community art show thingy. Chaac all steam punkd out.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45071359]Also, someone please explain the fedora reference?[/QUOTE]
It's just some overused insult or whatever that FP likes to use a lot to ridicule people who tries to act sophisticated/artsy/pretentious/whatever without being very skilled at whatever they think they're good at, or something along those lines.
Not that I would laugh loudly in your face for posting that, but that's pretty much how people are around here.
[QUOTE=Talkbox;45076050]Frank he goes aub and is my housemate[/QUOTE]
small world
You guys are both from bournemouth? I live like 5 miles from there (fp gives me US flag but thats obv wrong)
[QUOTE=lintz;45076470]small world[/QUOTE]
you're telling me, I just finished interactive media at Bournemouth :v:
[editline]23:21[/editline]
B-town reppin
what the shit
Is there anyone here not from bournemouth?
It seems Bournemouth is the place to be.
The only FPers around me are photographers that I never found time to meet up with.
I'm not from Bournemouth :(
[QUOTE=Skerion;45076383]It's just some overused insult or whatever that FP likes to use a lot to ridicule people who tries to act sophisticated/artsy/pretentious/whatever without being very skilled at whatever they think they're good at, or something along those lines.
Not that I would laugh loudly in your face for posting that, but that's pretty much how people are around here.[/QUOTE]
It's not even close to being just a facepunch thing. It's way deeper than that. I'd post the history from the beginning, but I'm just on a phone.
It's still a bit of a shitty thing to do: instantly judging people on their art and totally disregarding it.
It was more than just art really, it was kinda theraputic and I felt a lot better after creating it. It was very awkward at the beginning, trying to visualise these thoughts in my head, right infront of people who didn't know a thing. However once I got past that initial hurdle, I started to feel relieved that I was able to vent my feelings outwards without turning to violence or other, less conventional methods.
I never understood the concept of art therapy up until that point. (Art therapy is what my sister is working towards) and honestly, art therapy is a very interesting concept. I don't suppose anyone has ever looked into Art therapy given to army veterans? I'm sure there was a documentary on Sky Arts at one point that was really insightful.
Now please don't go throwing your damn fedoras at me again. The way it's coming across to me is that these 'fedora tippers' place themselves above others rather pompously and are pretending to be someone they're not; overly sophisticated.
What I produced was not some cry for attention, nor was it me trying to appear sophisticated or 'arty' - I saw an opportunity to turn my hurt into Art, and maybe actually pass my exams and hey, it worked! I simply saw an opportunity and took it.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45086784]It's still a bit of a shitty thing to do: instantly judging people on their art and totally disregarding it.
It was more than just art really, it was kinda theraputic and I felt a lot better after creating it. It was very awkward at the beginning, trying to visualise these thoughts in my head, right infront of people who didn't know a thing. However once I got past that initial hurdle, I started to feel relieved that I was able to vent my feelings outwards without turning to violence or other, less conventional methods.
I never understood the concept of art therapy up until that point. (Art therapy is what my sister is working towards) and honestly, art therapy is a very interesting concept. I don't suppose anyone has ever looked into Art therapy given to army veterans? I'm sure there was a documentary on Sky Arts at one point that was really insightful.
Now please don't go throwing your damn fedoras at me again. The way it's coming across to me is that these 'fedora tippers' place themselves above others rather pompously and are pretending to be someone they're not; overly sophisticated.
What I produced was not some cry for attention, nor was it me trying to appear sophisticated or 'arty' - I saw an opportunity to turn my hurt into Art, and maybe actually pass my exams and hey, it worked! I simply saw an opportunity and took it.[/QUOTE]
This thread has some very egotistical people, they claim to not have any standards for what is acceptable to post here, but really there is a set standard.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45086784]Long post[/QUOTE]
It's not a shitty thing to do. That's literally the entire point of this thread, believe it or not. Someone posts art, and it's judged by the other people in the thread. It makes no difference how important what you've made is to you. We see an image and react to the images. The images were arguably shit so you were told exactly as much.
The reason you're catching so much flak is because you freaked shit out (iirc anyway, haven't been following this that closely because it devolves into a shitstorm so quickly) and couldn't accept that people don't like what you've posted, and were being big bullies about it. If you like it, why does there need to be anything more to it? Who cares what anyone else thinks. [i]You posted it in this thread so it's reasonable to assume you wanted to know what other people think about it, and they did just that.[/i]
Lastly you clearly have no concept of 'fedora tipping'. Not to be politically incorrect, but you're acting like a bit of a sperg/neckbeard, so you receive fedoras.
Take a chill pill. People will treat you nicely if you're a cool guy, and don't freak out anytime someone pokes fun at you.
[editline]12th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;45087005]This thread has some very egotistical people, they claim to not have any standards for what is acceptable to post here, but really there is a set standard.[/QUOTE]
Both completely right and completely wrong. Frankly you just sound butthurt because you've been completely unable to fit in. We try to help you, you ignore us, you get shit for it, you freak out, rinse, repeat. Egotistical? Sure. Justified? Yep.
And no, there is no standard for what is acceptable to post. The thing is, if you post something that people think is bad, they'll tell you it's bad. Sure, often somewhat cruel, but honest nonetheless. You're welcome to post just about whatever the hell you want, but if someone thinks it's shit you're still going to be told so.
[editline]12th June 2014[/editline]
And frankly, I hold no grudges against either of you. I don't care if your art is bad. I don't care if your art is fucking terrible, jeebus knows I can't do art for shit. What I do care about is whether you act like a bit of a twat or not.
It's been a while since I posted, but lately I've been learning my way around Photoshop. It's loads different from Mypaint, but I like it. This is what I've been working on recently:
[URL=http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/dnqboy/media/4f42f119-6f59-44a2-8f04-1ab160019e65_zpsc46fc888.png.html][IMG]http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/dnqboy/4f42f119-6f59-44a2-8f04-1ab160019e65_zpsc46fc888.png[/IMG][/URL]
Crit, please
As with many photoshop paintings, you can see that you've put in the work but a lot of it is either just lack of technique or experience that comes with practice. You've heard it all before, but here we go.
One of the key issues is the use of small brushes. To a reasonable extent, the larger brush you can manage to use, the more wholesome your painting will look. Details like the individual strands of hair, while a valiant effort, only serve to distract from the focal points, presumably the emblem and the face. The only areas you should really be using small brushes on, unless absolutely necessary, are key facets of the face, particularly the eyes, and often the mouth and nose.
The other major issue is color, as with many learning to paint digitally, color becomes washed out and desaturated easily, and generally will look muddy. I personally haven't even moved on to color painting, as I've only done black and white to practice value (light and dark, contrast, etc) and don't feel suitably equipped to tackle color yet. I recommend the same to anyone learning to paint digitally, until you're able to create a really solid B&W piece. I understand that GOT doesn't exactly have a rainbow palette, but he looks pale as a ghost, as do/does everything else.
I'm not going to try and recommend techniques to improve color, for obvious reasons, but I'm sure some google searching or someone else in the thread will be able to help you there.
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