you did not just meh at that! its beautiful! do you paint-over the pencil or blend it in? especially love the right side
I loved Crystal Chronicles.
[QUOTE=Ducksink;45186016]you did not just meh at that! its beautiful![/QUOTE]
I said that because no damn company will hire me for concept design so I'm forced to build Minecraft builds for paying servers just to pay my bills. My extra time is spent trying to build a better portfolio because according to any other game studio (even though I have 5 years experience creating assets for released indie games) will say that my work is "meh".
very frustrating and unfortunately the truth.
[QUOTE=Ducksink;45186016]its beautiful! do you paint-over the pencil or blend it in? especially love the right side[/QUOTE]Anyway, I appreciate the kind words :)
As for the coloring, I used a combination of painting directly over the pencil for highlights and using an assortment of blend modes in Photoshop to preserve the value and texture of the pencil while also coloring it; To get a sort of a colored pencil look but it's all digital.
[QUOTE=TrueNord;45186537]I said that because no damn company will hire me for concept design so I'm forced to build Minecraft builds for paying servers just to pay my bills. My extra time is spent trying to build a better portfolio because according to any other game studio (even though I have 5 years experience creating assets for released indie games) will say that my work is "meh".
very frustrating and unfortunately the truth.
Anyway, I appreciate the kind words :)
As for the coloring, I used a combination of painting directly over the pencil for highlights and using an assortment of blend modes in Photoshop to preserve the value and texture of the pencil while also coloring it; To get a sort of a colored pencil look but it's all digital.[/QUOTE]
I'd be curious to see some of your portfolio if you wouldn't mind posting the pieces
i gotta stop coming into this thread
it makes me feel like I've made no progress over the past 2 weeks :(
[QUOTE=ImpSnob;45186720]i gotta stop coming into this thread
it makes me feel like I've made no progress over the past 2 weeks :([/QUOTE]
2 weeks is a minuscule amount of time to see your progression. but look back in a month or two and provided you're learning right you'll see the difference yourself
thanks, that really helped :)
[editline]22nd June 2014[/editline]
wait when you say learning right, what do you mean exactly?
Should I be looking at tutorials?
I imagine most people aren't going to help you out, and I'm certainly not the best to do so but hey ho.
You need to practice specific things, it can be as simple as practicing drawing circles or curves. Learning how to shade with different techniques and combining the two to get to grips with form. Set out a timetable so you practice one thing for so many hours a day and then another topic - feel free to vary.
You might want to check out YouTube for tutorials, here are my favourites:
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/user/DrawWithJazza"]Draw With Jazza[/URL] - [URL="https://www.youtube.com/user/WeiWorks"]WeiWorks[/URL] - [URL="https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTV"]Proko[/URL]
[QUOTE=ImpSnob;45186750]thanks, that really helped :)
[editline]22nd June 2014[/editline]
wait when you say learning right, what do you mean exactly?
Should I be looking at tutorials?[/QUOTE]
Generally I would say tutorials aren't very good, they are often for very specific things and don't tell you a lot of basis, just "make a link here, now here" rather than understanding why or how to apply the knowledge elsewhere. Breaking down the information and doing studies yourself is generally a better way to learn, or more professional learning books (Loomis books for example are well recommended and teach you those foundations)
[QUOTE=MenteR;45184546]no, he was supposed to have arms. on the first piece i made of this theme you could see the arms, i accidentally occluded them in my "final" piece.
been working on this but i'll stop because i'm going to make more dragons later today:
[img]http://puu.sh/9FmBj/522da3eb3d.jpg[/img]
i need to stop doing b&w and go back to color.[/QUOTE]
This is the sort of thing I'd love to do but I have no idea where to start with digital drawing etc :(
a brief stroll through a void
[img]https://31.media.tumblr.com/73ebbc23e4758d9c38fe23c9d245d87c/tumblr_n7llqoyCSj1qd5eico1_500.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Rhenae;45187050]Generally I would say tutorials aren't very good, they are often for very specific things and don't tell you a lot of basis, just "make a link here, now here" rather than understanding why or how to apply the knowledge elsewhere. Breaking down the information and doing studies yourself is generally a better way to learn, or more professional learning books (Loomis books for example are well recommended and teach you those foundations)[/QUOTE]
Rhenae is right. If you want to get into drawing or paining, step by step tutorials are a BIG no no. instead get refereance images of things you want to draw and practice drawing those (not tracing) eventually you will be able to combine many different references into something unique and eventually you wont need references at all and you will be able to draw or paint well on your own :)
The reason why tutorials for learning 3D is ok is because 3D is very technical and requires a bunch of knowledge of the tools before you can start. However, the actual art of creating 3D is never taught in a tutorial; you learn it though experience.
btw Rhenae,
Here is my deviant art gallery where you can see a few more of my works as you requested: :)
[url]http://ledious.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0[/url]
[img]https://38.media.tumblr.com/ff9b347212a00f84e22cf198c1edc7c9/tumblr_n7lkzy9c2N1sosrgro1_500.png[/img]
[img]https://31.media.tumblr.com/cb0b9c3498910e07d6e132df8b38ec7f/tumblr_n7ldtsFGzz1sosrgro1_500.png[/img]
some doodles
[QUOTE=Rhenae;45187050]Generally I would say tutorials aren't very good, they are often for very specific things and don't tell you a lot of basis, just "make a link here, now here" rather than understanding why or how to apply the knowledge elsewhere. Breaking down the information and doing studies yourself is generally a better way to learn, or more professional learning books (Loomis books for example are well recommended and teach you those foundations)[/QUOTE]
Is there any ways of getting the Loomis books on the cheap? I have them in Ebook form but I don't have an eReader and i bloody hate reading ebooks on a screen.
They are still in print I believe, you don't really get physical books on the cheap though. Unless you find them in a second-hand bookshop or you get lucky with a TBD sale. Amazon would have them too obviously. There's also a remote chance you'd get lucky with abebooks but mostly they're shit
[editline]23rd June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=TrueNord;45189015]Rhenae is right. If you want to get into drawing or paining, step by step tutorials are a BIG no no. instead get refereance images of things you want to draw and practice drawing those (not tracing) eventually you will be able to combine many different references into something unique and eventually you wont need references at all and you will be able to draw or paint well on your own :)
The reason why tutorials for learning 3D is ok is because 3D is very technical and requires a bunch of knowledge of the tools before you can start. However, the actual art of creating 3D is never taught in a tutorial; you learn it though experience.
btw Rhenae,
Here is my deviant art gallery where you can see a few more of my works as you requested: :)
[url]http://ledious.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0[/url][/QUOTE]
Relevant reply I made to somebody else a while ago -
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;45108079]Not so, the way to do it is to learn the proportions and then the anatomy (or otherwise the workings of the thing) and simplifying in terms of forms. You can do a million referenced pictures of a deer and still only posses a superficial, detached knowledge of how a deer's body is built and moves. Understanding your subject should come before copying any photographs or doing master copies - these things are good for rendering practice, fine tuning the portrayal of elements that you should already know, gaining insight into (but not aping) other artist's means of interpretation as well as how things appear in action in some cases. You should [B]not[/B] learn solely by doing photostudies, that's another situation where you're learning backwards, building the roof with no walls under it.
It's funny, I would have given the same advice as you not very long ago, I think a lot of people have been under the impression that reffing is the be all and end all solution. As I'm learning myself I'm realising a lot of the stuff I might have said with conviction in the past about art is simply not true :/
I don't even consider photostudies to be art anymore honestly, I just see it as practice now, not something to show off. There's more room for interpretation than with a master copy say, but it's still copying. Good for learning when it's part of a much broader learning process, but worth very little as far as artistic credibility goes. We ALL used to parade photostudies around in CW like a year+ ago and pat each other on the back, it was all a bit deviantart looking back on it.
Having said all that, before you undergo study you should have good base drawing skills. Just simply being able to draw a nice line or curve with a pencil, gaining the skill of seeing your subject so that you may record it as it appears without spending a lot of time or effort, being able to draw with relaxed grips and different pressures and so on and so on. For these foundations, draw from life, starting with the most primitive objects possible.
That last paragraph wasn't so much for you Rhen, more for Plucky or whoever else might be paying attention to anything I say :v:
[editline]15th June 2014[/editline]
I doubt there is anything less effective then tracing. There's nothing MORALLY wrong with it if you do keep it as private practice, but in terms of value as practice everything is wrong with it. It can be useful if it's for a reason, I.E tracing off a figure outline for perfect accuracy and then inserting the skeleton or similar, but tracing as a standalone "technique" is useless. You can claim to be learning some minutiae from doing it, but the fact is you'll learn some tiny residue of information no matter what you do, and you'll learn more doing literally anything other than tracing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45190312]Is there any ways of getting the Loomis books on the cheap? I have them in Ebook form but I don't have an eReader and i bloody hate reading ebooks on a screen.[/QUOTE]
If you dont care about them being bound nicely you could just print the pdf so you have it on paper for reading
What is life without light, what is darkness if not the cradle of night
What hides beyond my sight when the sun is too bright
Who is the whisperer of the wind, why is the sky falling white
The lessons of growing old, will always be something to behold
how do i art pls hlp
[img]http://i.imgur.com/qtuAxqi.png[/img]
your observation is pretty good especially the specular of that blood. you're already better than me
Two of my friends made a drum n base song by sampling old swedish kids shows and playing some guitar and trombone to it, The trombone melody is an old swedish lullaby. I really dig it.
[media]http://soundcloud.com/axel-hedberg/ayai-buff-co-produced-with[/media]
WIP.
[img]http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/174/a/7/peacock_dress_wip_by_fadingz-d7nnziv.jpg[/img]
Other than the peacock tail, not sure what to do with her skirt yet, don't like her skirt right now...
[QUOTE=Rhenae;45190806]If you dont care about them being bound nicely you could just print the pdf so you have it on paper for reading[/QUOTE]
That could still work out to be expensive though, Ink ain't cheap and I don't even know if my sister's printer works.. In my Uni it cost like 20p per A4 sheet, more for colour - I doubt it would work out cheaper doing it that way.
I could always give it a try I guess.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45195799]That could still work out to be expensive though, Ink ain't cheap and I don't even know if my sister's printer works.. In my Uni it cost like 20p per A4 sheet, more for colour - I doubt it would work out cheaper doing it that way.
I could always give it a try I guess.[/QUOTE]
Or you could read them off your monitor for free.
[QUOTE=imMonkeyGOD;45195825]Or you could read them off your monitor for free.[/QUOTE]
That's a pain in the ass, strains the eye, cumbersome, not portable and games.
I want to buy a Cintiq, is it a good switch? Anyone using Cintiq here?
I'm on a Intuos3 6x8 right now.
I still find result better if I draw on paper first, so I don't know if it is the way I can look at whatever I am drawing or just that traditional medium can produce better texture.
[QUOTE=Maya2008;45196015]I want to buy a Cintiq, is it a good switch? Anyone using Cintiq here?
I'm on a Intuos3 6x8 right now.
I still find result better if I draw on paper first, so I don't know if it is the way I can look at whatever I am drawing or just that traditional medium can produce better texture.[/QUOTE]
If you think it's just the attributes of paper that help, try sticking some paper on top of your tablet - I've tried it on my old Bamboo and it does feel quite nice!
I've never used a Cintiq but I imagine being able to look at your hands would improve the accuracy and speed of your work - which can be make or break depending on your situation.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45195799]That could still work out to be expensive though, Ink ain't cheap and I don't even know if my sister's printer works.. In my Uni it cost like 20p per A4 sheet, more for colour - I doubt it would work out cheaper doing it that way.
I could always give it a try I guess.[/QUOTE]
Printing yourself is going to be the cheapest option you've got. A pack of white paper isn't that expensive, and just set the printer to black and white so it won't waste colour ink and your good to go.
Or you can just keep making excuses to do nothing.
so I decided to take an opportunity to test drive a bunch of brushes
[IMG]http://u.cubeupload.com/Signal/drijv2small.png[/IMG]
get it? drive
heh
I hereby name this method barfpaint
Well..all i can say is that "Drive" have a nice warm orange lighting in this scene, while yours is just yellow.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45195843]That's a pain in the ass[/QUOTE]
It's free education for which you don't have to leave your chair, how can you bitch about that
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45195843]strains the eye[/QUOTE]
No more so than say reading your emails or posts on a forum or facebook or or or ...
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45195843]cumbersome[/QUOTE]
Cumbersome? You want a physical book instead of a [I][B]cumbersome[/B][/I] digital pdf file? Are you an idiot?
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45195843]not portable[/QUOTE]
It is if you use a laptop. If not, I know we all want to read our Loomis out and about but you have to make SOME allowances when things are free
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;45195843]and games.[/QUOTE]
And what?
Just buy the fucking thing
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