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[QUOTE=Gunsmith;40538804]looking again, ive noticed a few other things as well. the pupil in your eyes is dead center, at that angel it would be off slightly as its receded into the eye slightly. the mouthline doesnt follow the contour of the face and the eye bag lines (technical words :v:) are far too low making his cheeks sag. my 2¢ [/QUOTE] Oh yeah, definitely. And I keep trying to re-draw the left eye, but it always looks too high/low, or too different from the other eye.
[QUOTE=for no reason;40539581]Oh yeah, definitely. And I keep trying to re-draw the left eye, but it always looks too high/low, or too different from the other eye.[/QUOTE] Your working digitally right? Just select it and move it around/rotate it as needed?
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/CqH2qf9.jpg?1[/IMG]
I know most of us don't read prose/poetry when it's posted here, but I wrote a thing and if you want to read it you can. [QUOTE] [B]Irrelephant - A Work In Progress[/B] "Gods above!" the Wizard cried out, hitting the rocky floor with a thud. He groaned as he untangled himself from his robes. Wincing at his grazed palms and probably bruised shins, he gathered up his slightly-phallic wizard's staff (he'd argue that it wasn't*) and untastefully stereotypical hat and looked around. "Where am I?" he said into the cavernous darkness, probably to himself but possibly also in the (often misplaced) hope that this unnecessary self-talk would reveal something that he'd otherwise have to spend a great deal of time and energy looking for. It did. "Grrngrrnnurrr" a deep rumbling echoed back at him. There was the sound of loose rocks falling to a distant floor. "Grrngruurrrr". It was coming closer. The Wizard took a step backwards and found himself in the light from the hole he'd fallen through. Suddenly exposed, he darted further back, out of the light, pressing himself against the cave wall. Peering out towards the sound he saw nothing, but still the noise came closer. A rumbling voice. obviously from some huge monstrous subterranean beast. Slumbering for hundreds of years and only waking to feast on whatever fell into it's lair. "Grrngrurrurnnn". The sound was so close. His heart pounded. He could smell the creature, the leathery skin, the decay, the bloodlust. He shut his eyes tight. "Hallo!" said a cheerful voice, "Who are you?" The wizard opened his eyes cautiously. Standing there in the shaft of light was a boy, and beside him a small elephant. The boy shot him a rascally grin. Heart still pounding, the wizard darted to the side, looking over the boy's shoulder. "Get out of here!" he hissed at the child and his pet, "Run, quickly! There's something terrible here!" The boy laughed and patted his pet. The elephant rolled up it's trunk, gave a chuckle and then made the deepest noise that any small mammal had ever made‡. "Grrrngruuurrr". The wizard gasped. His not-a-wizard's-staff fell to the ground with a clatter as he sank to the ground. As his back slid down the rock wall his legs slid out into the shaft of light, and warm relief spread through him. He started to laugh. Several hours later he stopped laughing. The boy and his elephant had set up a small tent just beside the spot of light and had a small fire going. The wizard clambered to his feet, picked up his shapely piece of wood and sidled over. He leaned in to say something, thought better of it, then leaned out again. He opened his mouth, bit his lip, leaned in, leaned out, and finally decided on the best way to approach things. "Hi," he said. The boy beamed up at him, the fire playing off of his face, "Hi!". He handed the wizard a bowl of soup. Feeling that this had gone well, the Wizard ventured a new-and-improved sentence, "Who are you?" The boy stirred the saucepan, "I'm a boy that lives in a cave sometimes." He filled another bowl and pushed it towards his pet, "And this is my elephant." The wizard scratched his head. He'd watched a lot of plays at the theatre before he'd gone off to The School of How To Be A Wizard and he knew as a fact that this was what people did when they were confused. The Wizard was a master at Body Languages. "Don't you have names?" The boy laughed suddenly. The laugh fell like a stream into the cavern and echoed around, bubbling off the walls dancing through the darkness light sparks. The elephant joined him, "Grrnernrnrnrnrn!". When the echoes had died away, the boy answered. "I don't have a name. I was born from in the Earth and I will die in the Earth." He pointed with his ladle at the elephant, "But his name is Irrelephant". The wizard was taken aback, "Oh no, I didn't mean to be rude! If you don't want to tell me his name then that's perfectly alright!" The boy looked puzzled. "No, I mean it's genuinely Irrelephant". You can imagine the back and forth that occurred now. Let me summarise. "No it's Irrelephant," "I understand completely don't worry!" "No; I mean it is Irrelephant!" "I said it's alright I don't mind!" "Please listen to what I'm saying; his name is Irrelephant" "I bloody well know and I respect your privacy!" OH THE FUN WE HAVE WITH WORDS. Eventually, through the ingenious use of a pencil and paper, the misunderstanding was resolved. "So," the wizard finished his soup and began eyeing the still-bubbling saucepan, "Why is he called that?" * - That it wasn't phallic. He was adamant that it was a Wizard's staff.† † - It wasn't. ‡ - Apart from bullfrogs. Bullfrogs are super bullshit at noises. Don't tell me a bullfrog isn't a mammal. I know your tricks.[/QUOTE] [editline]6th May 2013[/editline] Arg my formatting is really not working. How best to format on forums?
If you use code tags I think indents and so forth should survive? [code] blah blah blah blah blah etc etc etc[/code] Yep [editline]6th May 2013[/editline] And the text itself, well it reads like a very contemporary tribute to Pratchett by a quite young person with little to no writing experience
oh awesome, thanks gangster
[QUOTE=Maloof?;40542138]oh awesome, thanks gangster[/QUOTE] can you please link me to your comic again where it says "balon."
[QUOTE=MenteR;40542215]can you please link me to your comic again where it says "balon."[/QUOTE] [URL="http://zacharyhogan.deviantart.com/art/2am-Comic-Number-1-Balon-352197225"]at you are service[/URL] [editline]6th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;40542052] And the text itself, well it reads like a very contemporary tribute to Pratchett by a quite young person with little to no writing experience[/QUOTE] I have been reading a lot of Pratchett recently. I've got a fair bit of non-professional writing experience but it's been an awfully long time! Hopefully once I proof read and revise it I can shape it up a bit
[QUOTE=Maloof?;40542876][URL="http://zacharyhogan.deviantart.com/art/2am-Comic-Number-1-Balon-352197225"]at you are service[/URL] [editline]6th May 2013[/editline] I have been reading a lot of Pratchett recently. I've got a fair bit of non-professional writing experience but it's been an awfully long time! Hopefully once I proof read and revise it I can shape it up a bit[/QUOTE] pick your weapon monseiur homo
[QUOTE=MenteR;40543332]pick your weapon monseiur homo[/QUOTE] Probably my favourite line in the whole thing haha I'm not sure how you'd classify that sort of humour but I enjoyed making it a lot. The same with the text I posted above; there's not a lot of revision happening. With the text above I haven't actually re-read it since I wrote it - it's just the act of brainstorming straight onto the page and seeing what comes out of it that's fun
Did this for my string ensemble cover of an aphex twin track .................................................................................................[img]http://i3.sndcdn.com/artworks-000047295936-jsn71n-t500x500.jpg[/img] [media]http://soundcloud.com/mysterious-mr-e/flim-string[/media]
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/32117.jpg[/img] [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2888.jpg[/img] [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/3648.jpg[/img] i want to study faces to get away from these pseudo anime faces but it is hard when you start off drawing animu ;_;
Well it's not everyone needs to do ultimately realistic faces. As long as the faces' proportions are in order, anime or realistic won't matter if you choose to follow one. My thoughts though. Dunno about the others.
I think the general opinion is, at least if you're doing commercial art, that you should learn to nail realistic faces and then go on to more abstract styles (cartoon, animes, etc). That doesn't mean stop drawing abstracted styles and only practice realism; it just means that it's good to learn how to draw realistic faces so that it can aid in the design of your abstracted faces. After all, the way I see it is that every cartoon drawing of a face is just a realism drawing of a face but with less lines and with exaggeration put on specific parts to create a specific characterisation. Of course, if you're going into contemporary fine art and you want to include people in your work you don't necessarily need to know how to paint people in any sort of realism at all
Learning realism before breaking into manga style is important because knowledge of realism informs your stylisation. It's not about following one or the other, if you want to stylise anything you need to understand it very well and also be able to draw very well. Ergo you should master drawing your subject as it really appears. Any other method of learning will make it more difficult and time-consuming to reach your goal.
Learning realism is also learning proper proportions and other rules. So as long as he/she has that in mind as well as strong fundametals, anime shouldn't be bad. Wait, when did the forums allowed to exceed 1000 posts? [editline]6th May 2013[/editline] But I'm one of the worse drawers around here, if not worst. So you'd better listen to Mako or Maloof
Lol if you think I know what I am doing you can think again bucko
Once I accidentally stuck the handle of a painbrush in my nose
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;40534385]@JF *Good stuff*[/QUOTE] Yeah, that bird was inspired from the songbird in bioshock infinite, they're big. (I actually redo the linework three times there because of my condition of drawing everything really small) Here's some of my life drawings: [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/KWPYzy9.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/XbScnDj.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/3pFpsYK.jpg[/img_thumb] On the thing about giving less details like in vatercolor, can you tell me more about how to do it with pencil? When I try it it looks rushed. [editline]6th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Fire Kracker;40544079] i want to study faces to get away from these pseudo anime faces but it is hard when you start off drawing animu ;_;[/QUOTE] There's nothing bad about drawing anime, but as everyone said: To distort the human look and make it more cartoonish, you must first learn how to do that look. edit: by comparing my latest piece to my [url=http://i.imgur.com/MkqZMsD.jpg]most successful one (technically)[/url] I think the main problem currently is that there is too many half-tones. What's the recommended ratio between darks, half-tones and lights in a piece?
To correspond to the fibonacci use roughly 60:30:10. Doesn't matter which is which Re: less detail, can you show us something? Otherwise you could greyscale a watercolour or just any impressionist piece to get a better idea of how it would look in pencil. Take a look at this: [url]http://jasonbrockert.com/inventory/wp-content/uploads/landscape-40-8x10-graphite-on-paper-2007.jpg[/url] There's a lot of tighter work up top I know, but check out the underbrush. It's really lively and textural and communicative. Everything in your pieces feels very meticulous and constipated in comparison. If your results look rushed atm it's probably because you're using the same style as before but rushing it - incorporating different vocabulary into your strokes might take some time so keep at it. You might consider working in ink a bit. Note down single subject observations from life in rapid strokes, loosen up your arm and your eye.
starting to get back into work after a couple of weeks off. progress on that kerbal thing this morning: [t]http://filesmelt.com/dl/wip216.jpg[/t] [t]http://filesmelt.com/dl/wip311.jpg[/t]
Sketch from this morning [img]http://i.imgur.com/Sy6m7ci.jpg[/img] And a shitty thing that I started but won't develop because I pretty much hate it [img]http://i.imgur.com/TLlxbJI.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;40546694]Sketch from this morning And a shitty thing that I started but won't develop because I pretty much hate it [img]http://i.imgur.com/TLlxbJI.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] That's brilliant! Keep at it [editline]7th May 2013[/editline] I know the exact reference you're using too haha [editline]7th May 2013[/editline] Although overall perspective is very off
[img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/566315e3317172504d08c97ba149ee6a/tumblr_mme02mye9F1s32mjoo1_1280.jpg[/img] some perspective issues but i'm fairly pleased with this for getting me back into the swing of things
The only thing that is bugging me: [IMG]http://puu.sh/2O5Ol.jpg[/IMG] Other than that, I absolutely love the ground textures as well as the smoke.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;40548681][img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/566315e3317172504d08c97ba149ee6a/tumblr_mme02mye9F1s32mjoo1_1280.jpg[/img] some perspective issues but i'm fairly pleased with this for getting me back into the swing of things[/QUOTE] I think you should try to use more contart colours in your pieces, some highlights and sharp edges on the metal would benefit for the picture too (the latter thing will also make your shapes more consistent, by the way). Also, I know that Mars is so yellow and red that it could be difficult to find cold shadows on it's surface, but hey! it's just a painting. So may be it would be cool to difersify your pallet a bit. Kinda like this way. [thumb]http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/126/4/e/edit_by_skoparov-d64cqla.jpg[/thumb] Sorry if you don't like it. Totally it's not the best variant of palette, but still. May be this will help.
looks nicer definatly
Either way you need to fix the screwy geometry. Do a proper construction underneath. Creationism Corner.avi [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBqTng4c2iU[/media]
[QUOTE=J. F. Christ;40551836]Either way you need to fix the screwy geometry. Do a proper construction underneath. Creationism Corner.avi [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBqTng4c2iU[/media][/QUOTE] What were they filming her for?
[t]http://oi39.tinypic.com/2148uac.jpg[/t] Did this 4 school.
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