[QUOTE=wewt!;45950614]I agree with mako, that first edit is borked, you simply removed too much hair.[/QUOTE]
If I did that properly would it look better?
"Ok so I think that's way too much, it doesn't look right, but maybe he's right? Is there too much hair on that drawing? Would it look better if I removed some of it?"
Do you guys even know how to interpret criticism?
[QUOTE=wewt!;45950614]And it's not about posting complete fixes, if you can't represent something correct visually, just keep it in text.[/QUOTE]
That sounds to me like you think it's about posting complete fixes. I think that's a ridiculous attitude to have towards criticism, to look for perfection and "the right answer" when it's just some guys opinionated piece of critic that you're supposed to reflect on whether you believe there is something to it or not.
[QUOTE=dgg;45950668]If I did that properly would it look better?
"Ok so I think that's way too much, it doesn't look right, but maybe he's right? Is there too much hair on that drawing? Would it look better if I removed some of it?"
Do you guys even know how to interpret criticism?[/QUOTE]
what I said was very clear:
-don't edit the painting
-it can cause confusion
-which ends up in stupid discussions like this
dont make this into a rat thing pls
[QUOTE=wewt!;45950691]what I said was very clear:
-don't edit the painting
-it can cause confusion
-which ends up in stupid discussions like this[/QUOTE]
It's not stupid to have a discussion about how to interpret criticism.
If you obssess over the result and final look of a quick sloppy illustration made to get the point across, then I personally think you have a really bad mindset on how to interpret criticism. Instead of reflecting on the criticism itself and visualizing how it would look if you did it yourself, properly, and whether or not you agree with the criticism you instead disregard the criticism because you didn't like the look of it.
[QUOTE=lexus04;45950703]dont make this into a rat thing pls[/QUOTE]
That would be posting alterations of an image over and over again.
[QUOTE=dgg;45950716]It's not stupid to have a discussion about how to interpret criticism.
That would be posting alterations of an image over and over again.[/QUOTE]
We're not discussing how to interpret criticism, we're discussing [I]you again[/I], and it's not helping anyone because nobody is getting anything out of this escept for you, and you don't want to listen anyway.
But in case I'm wrong about the latter:
-the criticism was correct
-the image was wrong
-drop one, keep the other
-everyine wins
[QUOTE=wewt!;45950745]We're not discussing how to interpret criticism, we're discussing [I]you again[/I], and it's not helping anyone because nobody is getting anything out of this escept for you, and you don't want to listen anyway.
But in case I'm wrong about the latter:
-the criticism was correct
-the image was wrong
-drop one, keep the other
-everyine wins[/QUOTE]
I'm listening, that's why I'm counter-argumenting because I disagree. If you can interpret that as me not listening then I would personally say it's you that's not listening.
Again, you say it flat out that "the image was wrong", this is to me a very wrong mindset to have about it when the image is a quick illustration that easily show what the criticism is getting at.
If you can't look past an image like that because "it looks wrong" instead of looking at the point it's making together with the criticsm, then I would say you interpret it wrongly, expecting more from the illustration than you should given it's nature.
No he didn't, and idk why mako is such a twat. Why would you ever bother responding to someone who's trying to help if you're gonna be so dismissive? Your original drawing looks like she has some sort of inflated balloon tumor on the back of her skull and some sort of floating wig above it. The biggest problem is with the nose, it bends inwards in a very unnatural way, it should start higher up with a smaller glabella and nasion. There's also the problem with the flatness of the eyes. They look like stickers. Also if the face is tilting to a the side a bit the mouth wouldn't be shooting upwards like that it should be pointing down more since you can't even see the bottom of the nose. Have a mirror next to you and put yourself in the same exact pose and you'll see everything wrong with it.
Cheers for the crit, I'll keep a mirror handy from now on
[QUOTE=Lilyo;45950809]No he didn't, and idk why mako is such a twat. Why would you ever bother responding to someone who's trying to help if you're gonna be so dismissive?[/QUOTE]
If I'm dismissive with dgg in particular (ignoring the fact that I did thank him and say I appreciated the effort) it's because any debate with him over the most trivial shit turns into a hundred lengthy posts. He does not let go of anything and I have no time or interest in playing the back and forth game. It's like tennis played with boring posts. So I can either dismiss the whole stupid thing or be trapped in a lukewarm discussion with him for eternity
[QUOTE=Lilyo;45950809]No he didn't, and idk why mako is such a twat. Why would you ever bother responding to someone who's trying to help if you're gonna be so dismissive? Your original drawing looks like she has some sort of inflated balloon tumor on the back of her skull and some sort of floating wig above it. The biggest problem is with the nose, it bends inwards in a very unnatural way, it should start higher up with a smaller glabella and nasion. There's also the problem with the flatness of the eyes. They look like stickers. Also if the face is tilting to a the side a bit the mouth wouldn't be shooting upwards like that it should be pointing down more since you can't even see the bottom of the nose. Have a mirror next to you and put yourself in the same exact pose and you'll see everything wrong with it.[/QUOTE]
Mako can be very abrasive, but he accepted the criticism fully except for one thing, and then even gave the reason why
which I agreed with, therefore didn't bother repeating the reasoning which dgg takes as ignoring the discussion - this is why such arguments tend to drag on so much and they're a waste of everyone's nerves. This isn't the first time this has happened, and it's really tiring when we could be talking about other more productive things, like tits.
So I went on this week long solo hike across the Adirondack High Peaks in ny and did some shitty drawing and stuff along the way.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wjwLou3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/AN9He8V.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QJSk9O2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/kX28Uki.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xzsVGPV.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MvT8uJm.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;45951164]Cheers for the crit, I'll keep a mirror handy from now on
If I'm dismissive with dgg in particular (ignoring the fact that I did thank him and say I appreciated the effort) it's because any debate with him over the most trivial shit turns into a hundred lengthy posts. He does not let go of anything and I have no time or interest in playing the back and forth game. It's like tennis played with boring posts. So I can either dismiss the whole stupid thing or be trapped in a lukewarm discussion with him for eternity[/QUOTE]
Maybe if you didn't go like "m8" and "nonsense" and instead either choose to reply properly or not reply at all it wouldn't be a problem?
If you're going to dismiss my post, dismiss them, don't go halfway.
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audacity things
So the Gobelins student films came out last weekend and I'm still sobbing.
-snip-
I see Senpai Club Episode 2 is coming along quite nicely
[QUOTE=Yogkog;45956147]I see Senpai Club Episode 2 is coming along quite nicely[/QUOTE]
I've been trying to get stuff done on the Senpai Club episode (I have a deadline) but I just can't seem to really get motivated so I spent a few hours drawing this naked picture of one of the characters instead to clear my mind up
I think it worked, I really feel like I'll get more done now
I like the filthy frank wallpaper
Is the guy on that poster behind her Frank/George/Joji?
Jesus Christ her uniform has been starched to hell and back.
[IMG]http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab255/Yournameisinvalid21/eggman_zpsf5e8f5b8.gif?t=1410495134[/IMG]
an egg
I don't understand why she's naked
I mean she's eating crisps and noodles and drinking tea and everything it's a bit odd
that's because eggs don't wear clothes
but she clearly has pants
eggs need a little bit of modesty
[QUOTE=duckmaster;45956636]Jesus Christ her uniform has been starched to hell and back.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what you're talking about
[sp]I fixed it, thanks for pointing it out[/sp]
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;45958129]I don't understand why she's naked
I mean she's eating crisps and noodles and drinking tea and everything it's a bit odd[/QUOTE]
Well you know I've been trying to think of a justification for it since "I like to draw naked girls" sounds unprofessional so what I have currently is that she got out of the shower (hence why she's sitting on a towel thing) and never got dressed after that because she started watching TV and got distracted, which would fit her character? maybe? maybe i'll come up with something else
She's the fanservice character who cares whatever
She got distracted but also got the crisps and heated noodles and made the tea, all from the kitchen presumably, before coming back to sit down? Isn't she COLD? My immersion in the universe is really in question Eric
somtimes you just gotta let the ladies fly free you know
[QUOTE=Eric95;45959212]Well you know I've been trying to think of a justification for it since "I like to draw naked girls" sounds unprofessional so what I have currently is that she got out of the shower (hence why she's sitting on a towel thing) and never got dressed after that because she started watching TV and got distracted, which would fit her character? maybe? maybe i'll come up with something else
She's the fanservice character who cares whatever[/QUOTE]
You don't need a justification, you are artiste.
She's a fanservice characters, and a lot of girls like to walk naked or partial naked in their home if they are alone (of course, boys too).
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MF4oa5d.png[/IMG]
Some sprites
im free nippin it 24/7
worked on two environment concepts for a game i'm working on. both are still studies though, first one is the rough sketch and the 2nd one contains obviously more refined ideas. these are so we figure out exactly what kind of assets we'll need to produce for this map.
[img]http://puu.sh/bvsEq/6754d6a947.jpg[/img]
[img]http://puu.sh/bw3Sb/5026d5793f.jpg[/img]
I want to play that game.
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