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[QUOTE=Sleeves;49030079]Why? How could they complain?[/QUOTE] Because they think that it's me shoving my personal beliefs down their throats, to which they would reply with shoving their personal beliefs down my throat. I once had a customer get mad at me and call me a "bad cashier" because I didn't give her the fucking cashier copy of the receipt, so by Christmas, nothing really surprised me.
[QUOTE=Broguts;49030103]Because they think that it's me shoving my personal beliefs down their throats, to which they would reply with shoving their personal beliefs down my throat. I once had a customer get mad at me and call me a "bad cashier" because I didn't give her the fucking cashier copy of the receipt, so by Christmas, nothing really surprised me.[/QUOTE] Just wish them a "Merry Christmas" you dirty commie.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49030106]Just wish them a "Merry Christmas" you dirty commie.[/QUOTE] Ok but here's the best part: Managment frequently hired secret shoppers that would act like normal customers and report cashiers for doing many things, saying something other than "happy holidays" was one of them.
[QUOTE=Broguts;49030117]Ok but here's the best part: Managment frequently hired secret shoppers that would act like normal customers and report cashiers for doing many things, saying something other than "happy holidays" was one of them.[/QUOTE] They can't fire you for saying "Merry Christmas" that constitutes discrimination based on religious beliefs. They also, technically, cannot force you to say "Happy Holidays" instead of the traditional greeting of your observed holiday. That too falls under discrimination based on religious beliefs. That's EOE law in America, I doubt Canada's is any different. If they reprimand you for saying "Merry Christmas" report it, if they fire you for it, you can sue them.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49030130]They can't fire you for saying "Merry Christmas" that constitutes discrimination based on religious beliefs. They also, technically, cannot force you to say "Happy Holidays" instead of the traditional greeting of your observed holiday. That too falls under discrimination based on religious beliefs. That's EOE law in America, I doubt Canada's is any different. If they reprimand you for saying "Merry Christmas" report it, if they fire you for it, you can sue them.[/QUOTE] I haven't worked there since March.
[QUOTE=Broguts;49030135]I haven't worked there since March.[/QUOTE] [i]Then wish people a "Merry Christmas" you commie[/i]
So far I've only had one person yell at me, over the phone. I don't blame myself though as he ended up calling back four more times swearing at various people before they threatened to call the cops.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49030163][i]Then wish people a "Merry Christmas" you commie[/i][/QUOTE] why does this matter so much lmao
[QUOTE=paindoc;49030192]why does this matter so much lmao[/QUOTE] Cause it's Christmas damnit
Christmas isn't the only holiday in December.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49030232]Cause it's Christmas damnit[/QUOTE] Well no need to call it "PC Bullshit". That same PC Bullshit is why someone can't discriminate against you for your sexuality without getting fired or in trouble, and is "Happy Holidays" really that bad? You're at work. Not at home. In the home say Merry Christmas and thank the lord as much as you like. Ensuring the rights of the majority requires protecting the rights of every minority. If you want to bring up religious freedom laws, thats the same shit used to endorse folks like Kim Davis and allow them to sneak away with what they're doing. If you feel like you're being persecuted welcome to how it feels to not be Christian in the US, where people are culturally biased against you in small ways you don't normally notice. Particularly those who are Muslim, Hindu, or any of the other eastern religions. Having to not say "Merry Christmas" is a survivable ordeal I imagine.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49030130]They can't fire you for saying "Merry Christmas" that constitutes discrimination based on religious beliefs. They also, technically, cannot force you to say "Happy Holidays" instead of the traditional greeting of your observed holiday. That too falls under discrimination based on religious beliefs. That's EOE law in America, I doubt Canada's is any different. If they reprimand you for saying "Merry Christmas" report it, if they fire you for it, you can sue them.[/QUOTE] When you are acting as a representative of a company they can absolutely govern what you say in a store environment they own. To a certain extent, of course. Happy Holidays is definitely within that extent.
Way to get unreasonably upset at a minor alteration in wording to be more inclusive at the behest of your employer. Paindoc said it better, but you sound exactly like "offended" religious nuts that hate the gays. You should feel stupid as soon as you even think of the "it's all just pc bull!" argument It isn't the end of the world to wish someone a happy holiday instead of a happy YOUR holiday
[QUOTE=DemonElite;49030244]Christmas isn't the only holiday in December.[/QUOTE] It's celebrated by 90% of Americans. 5% celebrate no holiday, 3% celebrate Hanukkah. It may not be the only holiday but it's by far the most prevalent one, the most hyped one, the most anticipated one, and the most loved one. My point isn't that we should IGNORE the other holidays my point is that we should use the traditional greeting for the one we participate in, not a catch-all blanket greeting that leaves everyone feeling disappointed. "Seasons Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" are bland and boring. I celebrate Christmas, I say "Merry Christmas". If someone says to me "Happy Hanukkah" I don't get offended or upset, I figure "Oh they must celebrate Hanukkah, cool" and then I wish them a Happy Hanukkah in return. The one time someone said "Happy Hanukkah" in response to me saying "Merry Christmas" I said "Oh, Happy Hanukkah" back. I think the biggest part of why I don't like "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons Greetings" is because in an effort to be 'politically correct' those holiday greetings subtly imply that the majority of people are too immature to not be offended by someone elses beliefs. It says, to me, "I'm too afraid that you'll be too immature to handle a holiday greeting that doesn't coincide with your particular beliefs, so I'll say something insincere to compensate"
nah guys don't you know christian holidays are the only ones that matter and if you're inclusive of others you're just trying to spew PC bullshit???
I missed ramadan this year and I felt kinda crappy about it
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49030277]It's celebrated by 90% of Americans. 5% celebrate no holiday, 3% celebrate Hanukkah. It may not be the only holiday but it's by far the most prevalent one, the most hyped one, the most anticipated one, and the most loved one. [B]My point isn't that we should IGNORE the other holidays my point is that we should use the traditional greeting for the one we participate in, not a catch-all blanket greeting that leaves everyone feeling disappointed. "Seasons Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" are bland and boring.[/B] I celebrate Christmas, I say "Merry Christmas". If someone says to me "Happy Hanukkah" I don't get offended or upset, I figure "Oh they must celebrate Hanukkah, cool" and then I wish them a Happy Hanukkah in return. The one time someone said "Happy Hanukkah" in response to me saying "Merry Christmas" I said "Oh, Happy Hanukkah" back. [B]I think the biggest part of why I don't like "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons Greetings" is because in an effort to be 'politically correct' those holiday greetings subtly imply that the majority of people are too immature to not be offended by someone elses beliefs. It says, to me, "I'm too afraid that you'll be too immature to handle a holiday greeting that doesn't coincide with your particular beliefs, so I'll say something insincere to compensate"[/B][/QUOTE] Personal anecdotes and opinions do not an argument or salient point make- [I]you[/I] find them boring. Too bad. Thats not at all what they say and is again your own personal interpretation of them. You can choose to make Happy Holidays just as sincere as "merry christmas" but since its not [I]your[/I] greeting you choose not to. That falls on you, not anyone else. You are using the same line of logic that causes people to say "Legalizing gay marriage requires me to support that lifestyle". Stop. This isn't about liberty or removing rights or forcing you to give up your own religion- you are in the workplace and the precedent for workplaces being able to make their employees follow and respect issues of civil rights was set in 1964 in the case of Heart of Atlanta Motel v. United States. and there was a shit storm then too. [editline]edit[/editline] oh, and your stats are wrong. Nationwide, 71% christian 6% non christian 16% non-religious. In some states, the rates go to 52% christian 35% non religious 7% non-christian
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Late to selfie train but I'm the only one in the Selfie Train that's actually on a Train! Also Peachy was there. [t]http://i.imgur.com/xiLfGal.png[/t] I gave the guy who owns the railroad my resume, I'll probably work there for the summer season.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49030277]It's celebrated by 90% of Americans. 5% celebrate no holiday, 3% celebrate Hanukkah. It may not be the only holiday but it's by far the most prevalent one, the most hyped one, the most anticipated one, and the most loved one.[/QUOTE] dude just calm down it's only a slightly different way of greeting someone i remember when you got upset over people crashing your economy in an rp game, this isn't much better. i mean: [quote]I think the biggest part of why I don't like "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons Greetings" is because in an effort to be 'politically correct' those holiday greetings subtly imply that the majority of people are too immature to not be offended by someone elses beliefs. It says, to me, "I'm too afraid that you'll be too immature to handle a holiday greeting that doesn't coincide with your particular beliefs, so I'll say something insincere to compensate"[/quote] cmon telepethi this isn't really something all that important to be upset about in the end
This is why I have a word filter on my browser to change "Politically Correct" to "Treating People With Respect", and "SJW" to "Skeleton Warrior". Makes these rants 100% funnier.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;49030256]When you are acting as a representative of a company they can absolutely govern what you say in a store environment they own. To a certain extent, of course. Happy Holidays is definitely within that extent.[/QUOTE] It's actually not. They can encourage you to say otherwise but they absolutely cannot fire you for saying "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Hanukkah" or "Happy Kwanzaa". One of my uncles is a lawyer and specializes in corporate law. According to him, as long as you claim it's part of a religious belief, holiday greetings are protected. Pretty sure he said it was a loophole but loopholes are enforceable so. [editline]1st November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=paindoc;49030321] oh, and your stats are wrong. Nationwide, 71% christian 6% non christian 16% non-religious. In some states, the rates go to 52% christian 35% non religious 7% non-christian[/QUOTE] Uh no. My stats are not wrong, because my stats were holiday participation not religious affiliation. You don't have to be Christian or even religious to celebrate Christmas. I celebrate it and I'm not religious. [editline]1st November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=GrammarCommie;49030471]This is why I have a word filter on my browser to change "Politically Correct" to "Treating People With Respect", and "SJW" to "Skeleton Warrior". Makes these rants 100% funnier.[/QUOTE] Except there's being "PC" and "Unnecessarily changing the way we speak and act to cater to a perception of offense/insult". Being mindful of a transgendered person's pronounces is being PC. Not calling a gay person a "faggot" is being PC. Etc. Saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah/Happy Kwanzaa" isn't being PC, it's unnecessarily padding something that doesn't need to be padded.
Merry Christmas is such a general statement for an over consumerist holiday it could easily be just as argued that there's no [b][i]genuinely held[/i][/b] religious beliefs and you were just uttering a common saying which is prohibited in the work place. If your employer doesn't want you saying it, they don't have to tolerate it. They can, and will fire you for acting in opposition to policy and that includes religiously themed statements while acting as a representative of the company. Hell, if I was your boss I could, and certainly would fire you based on your posts on a public forum such as this.
[QUOTE=DemonElite;49030515]Merry Christmas is such a general statement for an over consumerist holiday it could easily be just as argued that there's no [b][i]genuinely held[/i][/b] religious beliefs and you were just uttering a common saying which is prohibited in the work place. If your employer doesn't want you saying it, they don't have to tolerate it. They can, and will fire you for acting in opposition to policy and that includes religiously themed statements while acting as a representative of the company. Hell, if I was your boss I could, and certainly would fire you based on your posts on a public forum such as this.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't work for you in any capacity, regardless of circumstance. So have fun with that mental power trip, bro.
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I work at a dental office and smile a lot. We have holidays off so I don't worry about this. :D
[QUOTE=Sleeves;49030542]I work at a dental office and smile a lot. We have holidays off so I don't worry about this. :D[/QUOTE] i'm so glad i don't have to work during holidays. i'd be p frustrated if i had to miss out on pie.
Hahaha, oh man, this reminds me so much of seeing my relatives [I]enraged[/I] at being expected to call same sex couples married, that it's so unfair to them, that it's unnecessary having to cater to anyone but the majority. If being mindful of a minority's experience is such a burden, then maybe there's some more deep seated issues going on behind the scenes. :v:
[QUOTE=DemonElite;49030538]The point Your head[/QUOTE] I got your point, I was making a counterpoint that obviously went over your head.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;49030582]I got your point, I was making a counterpoint that obviously went over your head.[/QUOTE] a counterpoint that didn't even respond to his main argument gj
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