Anyone else here faithfully believe in Jesus Christ?
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[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;19397739]But doesn't god make every person special?
Did he make them bad, and if he didn't then why didn't he change their minds?[/QUOTE]
No, he created us so he could put the people doing things he deems "bad" in a place of eternal torture. yea, hes a real loving god.
[QUOTE=SantanaDVX;19396227]I believe that he walked the Earth and that he was one of the most influential people this world has ever seen, but I don't believe that he was God or the son of God.
Just another great philosopher.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E-_DdX8Ke0&feature=related[/media]
Carl Sagan has a good explanation of how there can never be any agreement.[/QUOTE]
Yeah..
I aggree that he was everywhere
He was studying with the buddhists too.
but .. son of god?. o_o.
[QUOTE=SamPerson123;19396194]I don't think that facepunch is the best place to make a thread like this.[/QUOTE]
Facepunch is the perfect place for troll threads.
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;19397739]But doesn't god make every person special?
Did he make them bad, and if he didn't then why didn't he change their minds?[/QUOTE]
He could do the fuck he wants, states in the bible other than us being his creation and loves us no matter what, he can freely do such things to either teach others or for a reason you couldn't understand nor that is for you to understand.
[QUOTE=Maccabee;19397746]I'm sorry, but I don't remember asking how many. I do believe that I in fact, asked when.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people[/url]
[url]http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Examples_of_Satan_personally_killing_people[/url]
:bravo:
[QUOTE=Craptasket;19397762]He could do the fuck he wants, states in the bible other than us being his creation and loves us no matter what, he can freely do such things to either teach others or for a reason you couldn't understand nor that is for you to understand.[/QUOTE]
So a benevolent god forces people to go to hell?
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;19397739]But doesn't god make every person special?
Did he make them bad, and if he didn't then why didn't he change their minds?[/QUOTE]
I don't understand what you mean by, he makes us special, but he does love each and every one of us like we are special.
He did not make them bad.
Because, God gave us the right to do whatever we want. If we choose to take a bad path, he is not going to stop us. We have to make the choice to believe in him or not. But because, we are all special it grieves him when we do 'change our minds'
If evidence for god was given, I would believe, but I wouldn't worship.
No evidence for god has ever been given other than "LOOK AT THE WORLD AROUND YOU HOW CAN THERE BE NO GOD WITH ALL THESE TREES HUEHUEHUE"
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19397753]No, he created us so he could put the people doing things he deems "bad" in a place of eternal torture. yea, hes a real loving god.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he loved you before you were even born and you took a path that didn't honor him for your whole life, yeah eternal torture in hell sounds about right
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19397773][url]http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people[/url]
[url]http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Examples_of_Satan_personally_killing_people[/url]
:bravo:[/QUOTE]
Exactly. They were examples. God had to use them as examples.
[QUOTE=Maccabee;19397639]When did God kill millions?
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Also, I don't see how you can compare Jesus to a sloth? From what I have read, he seems very physically fit and spritely.[/QUOTE]
Flood? And don't give me bullshit about how they were evil people, if got is all-loving, he would have forgiven them, he didn't, so he is not.
If he is all-powerful, he would have solved the situation without killing millions of fucking people, yet he didn't, he's not all-powerful or all-loving.
If he knows everything, he knew that eve would eat from the tree, so he would have smacked that bitch across the tits and said "That's not okay bish, dun make me kill yous"
[QUOTE=Maccabee;19397799]Exactly. They were examples. God had to use them as examples.[/QUOTE]
The women and children too?
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As an atheist my stance is clear, but if he did exist this would probably be where I stand.
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;19397776]So a benevolent god forces people to go to hell?[/QUOTE]
Where did it say in the bible he was ALL about love? he can do some dickish moves
Jesus was the guy about caring and full love
[QUOTE=Craptasket;19397820]Where did it say in the bible he was ALL about love? he can do some dickish moves too[/QUOTE]
The judeo-christian god is a dick and is no different than the gods of the Greeks, Romans, the Mayans, or any other religion that focuses around god/gods.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;19397820]Where did it say in the bible he was ALL about love? he can do some dickish moves
Jesus was the guy about caring and full love[/QUOTE]
[quote= Exodus 34:6]
"The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness,[/quote]
Right, that's one compassionate guy that god is.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;19397853]The judeo-christian god is a dick and is no different than the gods of the Greeks, Romans, the Mayans, or any other religion that focuses around god/gods.[/QUOTE]
yeah, something you got to deal with
or not enjoy the fiery pits of surfer and molten rock
[QUOTE=Craptasket;19397876]yeah, something you got to deal with
or not enjoy the fiery pits of surfer and molten rock[/QUOTE]
hey i never asked to be created OR doomed to hell.
I believe that he could have EXISTED, but I don't believe that he was the son of god and made water to wine etc.
I believe in god, have since I was really little, and I don't give two shits what Facepunch says about it, I'm not going to force my religion on you guys.
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19397807]The women and children too?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;19397803]Flood? And don't give me bullshit about how they were evil people, if got is all-loving, he would have forgiven them, he didn't, so he is not.
If he is all-powerful, he would have solved the situation without killing millions of fucking people, yet he didn't, he's not all-powerful or all-loving.
If he knows everything, he knew that eve would eat from the tree, so he would have smacked that bitch across the tits and said "That's not okay bish, dun make me kill yous"[/QUOTE]
This is the hardest part when debating with people like you...
God is like a parent. If you love your child, you will spank him when he does bad, and he will hopefully not do it again. Do you see?
/analogy.
[QUOTE=Maccabee;19397915]Yes.
This is the hardest part when debating with people like you...
God is like a parent. If you love your child, you will spank him when he does bad, and he will hopefully not do it again. Do you see?
/analogy.[/QUOTE]
And if he still doesnt get it you burn him alive for eternity. Right.
I believe if his dad exists, he is a huge asshole.
That is all, I shall now go to limbo like it is spoken.
[QUOTE=Dalto11;19397909]I believe in god, have since I was really little, and I don't give two shits what Facepunch says about it, I'm not going to force my religion on you guys.[/QUOTE]
But can you not help them? The bible tells us to help them see the light. Don't force it, just debate with facts.
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;19397864]Right, that's one compassionate guy that god is.[/QUOTE]
Uhm yeah, Moses was speaking in the verse was sucking up to god when he descended from the clouds, you didn't even bother reading the next set of lines, nice job
[QUOTE=Maccabee;19397915]Yes.
This is the hardest part when debating with people like you...
God is like a parent. If you love your child, you will spank him when he does bad, and he will hopefully not do it again. Do you see?
/analogy.[/QUOTE]
If god is a parent, then all parents send their kids into their basement-torture-chambers to be tortured for an eternity.
[QUOTE=Maccabee;19397915]
This is the hardest part when debating with people like you...
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Any proof this "parent" exists beyond saying you believe in him?
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19397889]hey i never asked to be created OR doomed to hell.[/QUOTE]
Do he smart thing and AVOID BEING DOOMED TO HELL, how fucking hard is that?
[QUOTE=Maccabee;19397936]But can you not help them? The bible tells us to help them see the light. Don't force it, just debate with facts.[/QUOTE]
Oh I know this, I've tried before, then got massively flamed, I just don't feel like getting banned for people who won't listen. But you have a good point, I should.
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