[QUOTE=wonkadonk;24029278]lol i suppose you've never met doriol?[/QUOTE]
Nope, but he seems like an asshole.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;24029302]:iceburn:[/QUOTE]
Not really, because whens the last time you ever took an argument on the internet, seriously enough to change you life or at the most make you look different on certain things?
I seriously doubt you could form an educated argument if you tried, considering you unironically said that "religion can be disproven"
[QUOTE=Doomish;24029295]So basically what you are saying here is:
"ANYONE WHO THINKS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN ME IS DUMB AND NEEDS TO STOP THINKING THAT."
Because that isn't how you win an argument, that's how you start [I]another[/I] argument.[/QUOTE]
yeah but hes also right.
[editline]01:51AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=MrAfroShark70;24029307]Nope, but he seems like an asshole.[/QUOTE]
please disprove religion for us all. honestly. i would LOVE to see you do it, considering no one has been able to do it yet. the existence of a god is an unfalsifiable hypothesis.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;24029301]Oh hey wow Atheism fits absolutely none of those criteria.[/QUOTE]
Using dictionary.com you get
[quote]a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe[/quote]
if you believe that the universe has nothing to do with any creature that would be classified as a god, it is a belief concerning the universe, and therefore a religion. i don't see why these semantics matter to you. it's not like being called a religion is poison that will kill your credibility.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;24029301]Oh hey wow Atheism fits absolutely none of those criteria.[/QUOTE]
[I]Let us pray in the name of Carl Sagan, for he hath gazed upon thy pale blue dot, and for he hath brought light to the wonders of thy universe, amen![/I]
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029132]I went out of my way to be friendly and welcoming to you so did you read my post?[/QUOTE]
Yes I did, you are nice.
So is Kybalt, because he doesn't critisize harshly.
But Xen Tricks doesn't have the right to call me undeducated anyways, but he can tell me I'm uneducated about stuff, Big Bang theories and evolutionary theories to be exact.
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029257]atheism technically fits the definition of a religion[/QUOTE]
no.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;24029314]
please disprove religion for us all. honestly. i would LOVE to see you do it, considering no one has been able to do it yet. the existence of a god is an unfalsifiable hypothesis.[/QUOTE]
you're doing the same thing as him, assuming that all religions are theistic
[editline]penis[/editline]
"most religions are theistic" is never an excuse
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029330]Using dictionary.com you get
if you believe that the universe has nothing to do with any creature that would be classified as a god, it is a belief concerning the universe, and therefore a religion[/QUOTE]
atheism has nothing to do with beliefs concerning the universe, only the belief in a god.
[editline]01:53AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Doriol;24029345]you're doing the same thing as him, assuming that all religions are theistic[/QUOTE]
uh, i never assumed that, i know there are atheistic religions. buddhism is one of them.
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029330]Using dictionary.com you get
if you believe that the universe has nothing to do with any creature that would be classified as a god, it is a belief concerning the universe, and therefore a religion. i don't see why these semantics matter to you. it's not like being called a religion is poison that will kill your credibility.[/QUOTE]
But Atheism doesn't give a reason why or how the universe was made, and it has no [I]set[/I] of beliefs, it's just we don't think there is a god.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;24029341]Yes I did, you are nice.
So is Kybalt, because he doesn't critisize harshly.
But Xen Tricks doesn't have the right to call me undeducated anyways, but he can tell me I'm uneducated about stuff, Big Bang theories and evolutionary theories to be exact.[/QUOTE]
I don't have the right to call you uneducated but I have the right to call you uneducated. Huh?
And come on, you misspelled uneducated 1/2 times, how does that happen?
thought i assumed that he meant a theistic religion.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;24029352]atheism has nothing to do with beliefs concerning the universe, only the belief in a god.[/QUOTE]
does that mean no other religion is a religion
a belief regarding god ultimately leads to one regarding the universe
[QUOTE=Doriol;24029214]atheism is not a religion
anyone holding theist beliefs is inherently stupid
also you're dumb[/QUOTE]
You are the bane of atheists.
While i am a atheist i am still capable of respecting other beliefs.
You on the other hand cannot imagine that somebody would believe something other then your opinion and everybody who doesn't agree is an idiot.
People like you are the reason some of us are hated.
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029378]does that mean no other religion is a religion
a belief regarding god ultimately leads to one regarding the universe[/QUOTE]
Read my last post.
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029378]does that mean no other religion is a religion
a belief regarding god ultimately leads to one regarding the universe[/QUOTE]
no it doesnt.
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029378]does that mean no other religion is a religion
a belief regarding god ultimately leads to one regarding the universe[/QUOTE]
religion =/= creationist theism
please stop being a dolt
[QUOTE=OvB;24029367]But Atheism doesn't give a reason why or how the universe was made, and it has no [I]set[/I] of beliefs, it's just we don't think there is a god.[/QUOTE]
true, atheists are much more umbrella in their beliefs. but excluding certain ideas is still ultimately a belief.
[QUOTE=Murky42;24029386]You are the bane of atheists.
While i am a atheist i am still capable of respecting other beliefs.
You on the other hand cannot imagine that somebody would believe something other then your opinion and everybody who doesn't agree is an idiot.
People like you are the reason some of us are hated.[/QUOTE]
doriols cool, because it seems like hes a total dick, but no one disproves him so its all cool. almost reminds me of lankist sorta. except lankist was way cooler.
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029378]does that mean no other religion is a religion
a belief regarding god ultimately leads to one regarding the universe[/QUOTE]
No, that means every thing is a religion. See:
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029330]Using dictionary.com you get
if you believe that the universe has nothing to do with any creature that would be classified as a god, it is a belief concerning the universe, and therefore a religion. i don't see why these semantics matter to you. it's not like being called a religion is poison that will kill your credibility.[/QUOTE]
If your definition of religious is "having a belief about the universe" then every person ever is religious, and it's a meaningless definition. There are no "beliefs" standard among atheists except for "there probably isn't a god", which isn't a belief so much as a lack of one. So no, it's not a religion.
[quote] but excluding certain ideas is still ultimately a belief.[/quote]
[I]What?[/I] How is not having a belief a belief? If I don't play baseball does that mean I believe in not playing baseball, or something? shitty analogy, but still, shitty argument
[QUOTE=Murky42;24029386]
You on the other hand cannot imagine that somebody would believe something other then your opinion and everybody who doesn't agree is an idiot.
[/QUOTE]
I can imagine there are idiots in this world and yes I do believe that theists are idiots
[editline]penis[/editline]
btw I don't claim to be an atheist. I am an antithiest
[QUOTE=Doriol;24029311]I seriously doubt you could form an educated argument if you tried, considering you unironically said that "religion can be disproven"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kybalt;24029314]please disprove religion for us all. honestly. i would LOVE to see you do it, considering no one has been able to do it yet. the existence of a god is an unfalsifiable hypothesis.[/QUOTE]
Will you two SHUT THE FUCK UP! Or at the most stop ganging up on me. I mean seriously I would if I could but I don't want to make a decent, actual arguement, just for an asshole to come along and go, "lol U MAD?" Plus I'm too tired.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;24029407]If your definition of religious is "having a belief about the universe" then every person ever is religious, and it's a meaningless definition. There are no "beliefs" standard among atheists except for "there probably isn't a god", which isn't a belief so much as a lack of one. So no, it's not a religion.[/QUOTE]
belief about "cause, nature, and purpose" of the universe, I just simplified it, in hindsight not a very good idea.
[QUOTE=MrAfroShark70;24029412]Will you two SHUT THE FUCK UP! Or at the most stop ganging up on me. I mean seriously I would if I could but I don't want to make a decent, actual arguement, just for an asshole to come along and lol U MAD?[/QUOTE]
if you don't want to argue then why are you still posting
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029421]belief about " cause, nature, and purpose" of the universe, I just simplified it, in hindsight not a very good idea.[/QUOTE]
Atheism has none of those. We just think there probably isn't a god. That is all.
[QUOTE=MrAfroShark70;24029412]Will you two SHUT THE FUCK UP! Or at the most stop ganging up on me. I mean seriously I would if I could but I don't want to make a decent, actual arguement, just for an asshole to come along and lol U MAD?[/QUOTE]
If you could you would have already done it
In fact if you were educated your original post would have been good and you wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.
[QUOTE=Doriol;24029397]religion =/= creationist theism[/QUOTE]
what does this even mean
I was an Atheist before it was "cool".
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029378]does that mean no other religion is a religion
a belief regarding god ultimately leads to one regarding the universe[/QUOTE]
no
atheism == lack of a belief in a deity
there is no obligation for an atheist to believe evolution happened. an atheist could believe we were shat out by a giant turtle 7000000000000 years ago and still be an atheist
it's just most atheists acknowledge evolution because it perfectly describes how life came to be the way it is today.
if there were to be evidence of something else happening that's not evolution; if the theory was completely disproved by something; rational-thinking atheists would abandon evolution in a heartbeat.
[QUOTE=Mexican;24029421]belief about "cause, nature, and purpose" of the universe, I just simplified it, in hindsight not a very good idea.[/QUOTE]
No, it wasn't. Atheism is not a religion except for the absolute most broad definition of religion, one that would make the word meaningless.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.