• Erotic Hypnosis
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[QUOTE=Rampooch;13487601]But you know you're doing it full well, you want it to happen. How is that self delusion. If you don't want to be hypnotized, [b]how will it work.[/b][/QUOTE] Well generally the same way most things work, which is by causing changes without the consent of the object being changed. To use my sledgehammer analogy, being hit in the face with a sledgehammer works whether or not you believe in the sledgehammer, and whether or not you want to be hit with a sledgehammer, sledgehammers wouldn't be very useful if they required the belief of the thing you hit with them. Chainsaws are similar, I very much doubt a tree believes in chainsaws, but they still cut them down quite well, if everything required belief in order to work, stupid people would be invincible.
it's not belief, it's suggestion chris and it effects your mind.
[QUOTE=Rampooch;13495313]it's not belief, it's suggestion chris and it effects your mind.[/QUOTE] So you're saying it still works even if you don't believe in it and don't want it to? You're saying you can forcibly hypnotise someone?
[QUOTE=Lankist;13494606]God fucking damn, dude. Pick a post you want me to respond to, I can't reply to the inanity of all of them. For someone who claims to like psychology you clearly don't understand psychosis.[/QUOTE] I'll admit it, I haven't routed through all aspects of Psychology and haven't properly came across Psychosis, but I doubt being optimistic is the definition of being a Psychopath - and experiencing either Psychological or ISP - hallucigenic delusional realities - similar to that from taking drugs, but rather mostly correlated to a dream reality - to embed a trigger into ones mind, enabling them to perceive reality to how they wish - this is not severe, and is merely a choice - they're not Psychopaths.
[QUOTE=chris0132;13495360]So you're saying it still works even if you don't believe in it and don't want it to? You're saying you can forcibly hypnotise someone?[/QUOTE] it's like lucid dreaming broski, if you don't want to lucid dream obviously you aren't going to. you can't make someone do something involving their own mind and fantasies.
[QUOTE=Rampooch;13495406]it's like lucid dreaming broski, if you don't want to lucid dream obviously you aren't going to. you can't make someone do something involving their own mind and fantasies.[/QUOTE] Right, so it [B]does[/B] require you to belieive in it in order to work, which is precisely what I said.
[QUOTE=chris0132;13495360]So you're saying it still works even if you don't believe in it and don't want it to? You're saying you can forcibly hypnotise someone?[/QUOTE] Well, all hypnosis is essentially self-hypnosis; no one can hypnotize you and can manipulate your mind against your will - hypnosis however, utilizes a peer to place you into trance more easily. It's a lot harder, or if not, you can't hypnotize yourself without a peer who can place you into a deep trance. During the induction through to a deep trance, the conscious mind is effectively reduced - the individuals cognitive abilities are reduced, and thus, the distorted memory effect occurs as a result. The effects of a reduced conscious mind will prevent primary perception from regulating the effects of ISP - this occurs during sleep and thus, consequently we dream - we experience an internal reality generated by our subconscious. However, the effects of this also reduce an individuals ability to awaken from trance easily - an individual will be restrained from awakening themselves, compelled to believing the hypnotist and also compelled to obedience and to listen to that of which the hypnotist suggests. All suggestions have a much stronger impact due to reduced cognitive abilities - the conscious can no longer regulate primary perception and thus, suggestions can effectively create a new perception - an internal reality for the individual. However, if no belief is enforced by the individual, the conscious mind will remain active during an attempt to induce trance upon the individual by a hypnotist.
I can do that already, I call it daydreaming.
if you want to define it as belief, sure. you're looking at it the wrong way. Do you know that thinking off positively will effect your moods, (maybe you won't be antagonistic all the time chris hazzuh.) It works similarily. May sound daft like religion where it's based on faith, but this is how the brain works.
[QUOTE=chris0132;13495502]I can do that already, I call it daydreaming.[/QUOTE] Sure you can daydream and imagine, but the results of reduced cognitive abilities prevent you from implicating suggestions into the subconscious; hypnosis enables the subject to have suggestions implicated by a hypnotist - the hypnotist takes control during the time in which the individual is lacking in cognitive abilities - the reduced conscious mind.
[QUOTE=hirigaji;13495555]Sure you can daydream and imagine, but the results of reduced cognitive abilities prevent you from implicating suggestions into the subconscious; hypnosis enables the subject to have suggestions implicated by a hypnotist - the hypnotist takes control during the time in which the individual is lacking in cognitive abilities - the reduced conscious mind.[/QUOTE] You use far too many words, what does that lot actually mean?
[QUOTE=Rampooch;13495529]if you want to define it as belief, sure. you're looking at it the wrong way. Do you know that thinking off positively will effect your moods, (maybe you won't be antagonistic all the time chris hazzuh.) It works similarily. May sound daft like religion where it's based on faith, but this is how the brain works.[/QUOTE] Oh I know that works, but it's not scientific, it's just optimism, people have been doing it for centuries, there's no reason to dress it up fancy and try to make money off it. Now if you invented a dial which you can attach to your brain and fiddle with to make yourself happier, that would be science, and groovy, but you haven't, so it isn't.
[QUOTE=chris0132;13495577]You use far too many words, what does that lot actually mean?[/QUOTE] As you fall asleep, your prefrontal cortex deactivates - your rational thought is no longer active, and thus, your beliefs are shaped by the reality generated internally - you belief in everything throughout your dream. This is also occurs during daydreaming, and thus, we tend to fall into a dream - we manage to pertain wakefulness, but are very easily pushed off the edge - our rational thought is very weak and will become deactivated as a result of our prefrontal cortex deactivating - or for what I keep referring towards it as; the reduced conscious mind. However, during hypnosis, the conscious mind is reduced to a state in which the hypnotist can place suggestions into the individuals subconscious - their conscious mind is reduced, but not too far - they'll be aware of the suggestions being placed into their subconscious, but their ability to think rationally will be reduced also, but not to the extent to which they cannot imagine or abide to the hypnotists suggestions. The hypnotist reduces the capabilities of the conscious mind - the individuals ability to recognize reality and to decide upon as to what is real and what is not; if someone suggested to you that you were experiencing an orgasm now, you wouldn't feel it due to knowing you're not having an orgasm. However, in trance, due to reduced cognitive abilities, suggestions have a much heavier effect on the individual - the individual is more likely to feel an orgasm due to the reduced ability to decide upon as to whether or not this is real; their conscious mind can no longer restrict suggestions, and thus suggestions are bypassing the logic barrier and are being acted upon by the individuals subconscious.
It is not wise to argue with someone who builds their entire self-esteem on being right, even if they aren't. Hypnosis, trance and altered states of mind is as real as it gets, we go trough it every day. Every time you watch a movie, or read a book, you enter an altered state of mind, hypnosis is simply one of them. I really thought that was considered a fact, and that were past the point of actually arguing about this this in a society of our level. If you deny this, you just haven't thought about it enough. And you most likely haven't seen enough of it. We see people that, under trance, resist pain like it wasn't there! We see memories being repressed, letters and numbers forgotten simply by the power of suggestion. It is foolish to doubt the existance of hypnosis, it's like denying the presence wind.
Reading a book or watching a movie doesn't make people grow tits and lose their penis, which is about 50% of what that site claims to do.
[QUOTE=hirigaji;13495692]As you fall asleep, your prefrontal cortex deactivates - your rational thought is no longer active, and thus, your beliefs are shaped by the reality generated internally - you belief in everything throughout your dream. This is also occurs during daydreaming, and thus, we tend to fall into a dream - we manage to pertain wakefulness, but are very easily pushed off the edge - our rational thought is very weak and will become deactivated as a result of our prefrontal cortex deactivating - or for what I keep referring towards it as; the reduced conscious mind. However, during hypnosis, the conscious mind is reduced to a state in which the hypnotist can place suggestions into the individuals subconscious - their conscious mind is reduced, but not too far - they'll be aware of the suggestions being placed into their subconscious, but their ability to think rationally will be reduced also, but not to the extent to which they cannot imagine or abide to the hypnotists suggestions. The hypnotist reduces the capabilities of the conscious mind - the individuals ability to recognize reality and to decide upon as to what is real and what is not; if someone suggested to you that you were experiencing an orgasm now, you wouldn't feel it due to knowing you're not having an orgasm. However, in trance, due to reduced cognitive abilities, suggestions have a much heavier effect on the individual - the individual is more likely to feel an orgasm due to the reduced ability to decide upon as to whether or not this is real; their conscious mind can no longer restrict suggestions, and thus suggestions are bypassing the logic barrier and are being acted upon by the individuals subconscious.[/QUOTE] I said [B]what does it mean,[/B] not how does it work. As in what's the difference in end result?
I tried this once, I just got a little sleepy...
[QUOTE=chris0132;13498717]I said [B]what does it mean,[/B] not how does it work. As in what's the difference in end result?[/QUOTE] The difference is combination of rational thought and the lack of rational thought; whilst asleep, an individuals prefrontal cortex is deactivated and thus, their conscious mind is reduced and their ability to distinguish between logic within reality is inactive - they'll accept all information from within the internal generated reality; a dream. However, hypnosis enables for the hypnotist to control the subconscious during this state of perception - an individual will have awareness, but will be lacking in cognitive abilities - the manipulation benefits the hypnotist to implicate suggestions that will affect the conscious mind later on - the end result is dependent upon how deep, the priority and the suggestions that were implicated. In other words... - Sleep/dreaming = lack of cognitive abilities and thus, the individual is compelled to believing the reality generated internal. By pertaining rational thought, the individual can achieve lucidity - and thus, whilst within a dream and becoming rational, the individual is provided access and control to their subconscious - essentially, they can reconstruct and manipulate the dream to how they wish. Consequently however, the conscious mind is reactivated and soon recognizes reality and boots the individual from the dream - the dream quickly fades and the individual is soon aware of the present reality they're within. - Hypnosis = similar to sleep, cognitive abilities are disabled but contrast, a hypnotist can implicate suggestions that manipulate the subconscious without the reactivation of the prefrontal cortex - their conscious will not awaken and suggestions can easily be implicated and acted upon.
This is really interesting. I'm a little scared to try it out though.
I didn't say dreaming, I said daydreaming. I'm not asleep, I'm just not aware of my surroundings very much because I am paying them no attention, I'm paying attention to an imaginary set of surroundings. I fail to see what the difference is.[QUOTE=tr0gd0r;13498995]This is really interesting. I'm a little scared to try it out though.[/QUOTE] You won't die.
[QUOTE=chris0132;13499009]I didn't say dreaming, I said daydreaming. I'm not asleep, I'm just not aware of my surroundings very much because I am paying them no attention, I'm paying attention to an imaginary set of surroundings. I fail to see what the difference is. You won't die.[/QUOTE] The difference is depth - how deep you are into your mind. Daydreaming can vary, and can sometimes result in you falling asleep. However, more commonly daydreaming is likely to be simply imagination - you see your imagination slightly transparent consequent to a conflict between ESP/ISP - you wouldn't be observing an internally generated reality, similar to that of a dream. However, hypnosis takes you deeper and is able to implicate suggestions to manipulate the subconscious and beliefs, but constrained to desire - part of the conscious mind is still active and preventing suggestions from acting against ones will, and thus the result is hypnosis only being able to act upon an individuals desires. The result of the deepness in which the individual is placed into trance, is the ability to create an internal environments as discussed previously - hypnosis can essentially enable an individual to experience trance sex, amongst many other desires, all of which are correlated to rational thought - dreams however, irrational. That's a little irrelevant to what you asked anyway, but that's optional - I tend to get carried away sometimes, my apologies. Anyway, the difference is how deep the individual is - the deeper, the less functional the conscious mind is and the closer to a dream - daydreaming is imagining but not perceiving as it where to be in the present reality.
[QUOTE=chris0132;13499009] You won't die.[/QUOTE] Agreed, hypnosis can't act against your will.
It sure does warm my heart to see someone who actually knows something about hypnosis. The opposite feeling is produced when I read the posts of the less informed. Hey, OP, you can get self hypnosis files to work for you, correct? What if I told you that [url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=13055293#post13055293]you might be able to have your own hypnosis-induced virtual reality, potentially including multiplayer[/url]?
[QUOTE=Sqwerp;13499540]It sure does warm my heart to see someone who actually knows something about hypnosis. The opposite feeling is produced when I read the posts of the less informed. Hey, OP, you can get self hypnosis files to work for you, correct? What if I told you that [url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=13055293#post13055293]you might be able to have your own hypnosis-induced virtual reality, potentially including multiplayer[/url]?[/QUOTE] Hey, thanks. :) And thanks again; yeah, I've used single player but hadn't fallen deep enough - I'll try it again sometime soon. :)
[quote=WarpMyMind.com]· I listened to a file thinking that it wouldn't work. I don't want this effect. Is there any way to remove it? Certainly. There are three methods available to have the effects of a file removed. First, if the file you listened to was one of the "curse" files: [b]you will have to send a payment to EMG to have the effect removed, or pay to have a local practitioner of hypnosis remove the effect[/b], or let some other hypnotist who is willing to do it for free remove the effect. Second, if the file is not one of the "curse files: you can download and listen to the DeprogramAll mp3 at WMM under Files/Other/Training(or All) to remove the effect. To pay EMG click on services, then "Remove a Curse". [b]This costs $30 a pop[/b].[/quote] Fuck that, I'm not gonna traumatize myself for life out of curiosity. It's like having a free public port-o-potty that anyone can use, but you need to pay to exit it.
There's a first for everything. I'm gonna try one I downloaded off WMM. Hopefully its not some manchurian canidate shit and I won't go on a killing spree. Thanks OP
[QUOTE=CaptainSnake;13503848]There's a first for everything. I'm gonna try one I downloaded off WMM. Hopefully its not some manchurian canidate shit and I won't go on a killing spree. Thanks OP[/QUOTE] I would listen to one before I let my self relax to listen to what it says.
Is there a button to make me have a tail?
[QUOTE=dvrethman;13503970]Is there a button to make me have a tail?[/QUOTE] No, but there is one that makes you feel like there is a dildo up your but 24/7. I shit you not.
the one's from WMA are fucked up, why do you think it's called warp my mind. use isabella's lol.
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