• Video showing the brutality of the Egyptian police force, killing and stripping protesters with bato
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[QUOTE=Cone;33813382]Well that's... terrible. I'm not so surprised so few tried to stop it - more that anyone tried at all. It's a shame those two officers will probably be berated for their actions. If they're lucky they'll get a desk job that pays the same, so there's less chance of being mauled in retaliation if anyone gains the upper hand on the police. I wish everyone could be safe, but if only so many are likely to gain such a position, I'd say those two get it by default.[/QUOTE] I very much doubt that police chief will actually know who tried to stop the beatings.
Did that one policeman breast-stop that poor woman? Makes me sick to my stomach, really.
wrong thread.
Don't kill the cops. The Egyptians have repeatedly attacked their government and all that has ever done is start the cycle of violent anarchy anew. You go from sticks and pistols to machine guns and just like that Egypt will become Somalia V2.0. The military must be removed true, but there must not be further violence and radicalism afterwards.
silly backwards writing Egyptians
why it seems to me that nothing works right there
Egyptian protesters: Want freedom and stability. Get smacked with batons and shot at, killed, etc. American protesters: Want cheaper college payments. Get pepper sprayed and call the police monsters. I can at least feel bad for the Egyptians.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33824288]Egyptian protesters: Want freedom and stability. Get smacked with batons and shot at, killed, etc. American protesters: Want cheaper college payments. Get pepper sprayed and call the police monsters. I can at least feel bad for the Egyptians.[/QUOTE] As much as I'm against the occupy protests since they were basically started by anon and becoming a huge fest of trolliness, I still think that's a pretty dumb comparison. If you don't use your right to protest in countries like the US, you might get to the point where you can't use it anymore.
Kill every pig. [editline]21st December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Croix;33825220]As much as I'm against the occupy protests since they were basically started by anon and becoming a huge fest of trolliness, I still think that's a pretty dumb comparison. If you don't use your right to protest in countries like the US, you might get to the point where you can't use it anymore.[/QUOTE] They weren't started by anonymous at all, fool.
[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;33825262]Kill every pig. [editline]21st December 2011[/editline] They weren't started by anonymous at all, fool.[/QUOTE] Well not the very start and idea, but anon did make it a lot more public by condoning it. Especially with the extra fame the whole thing got with the damn lulzsec shit the media gave insane amounts of attention to.
[QUOTE=Croix;33825220]As much as I'm against the occupy protests since they were basically started by anon and becoming a huge fest of trolliness, I still think that's a pretty dumb comparison. If you don't use your right to protest in countries like the US, you might get to the point where you can't use it anymore.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure a Canadian news agency was responsible for "stirring the pot" on the protests.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33824288]Egyptian protesters: Want freedom and stability. Get smacked with batons and shot at, killed, etc. American protesters: Want cheaper college payments. Get pepper sprayed and call the police monsters. I can at least feel bad for the Egyptians.[/QUOTE] are you saying that because they don't have it as bad they deserve no sympathy?
[QUOTE=thispieiscold;33837222]are you saying that because they don't have it as bad they deserve no sympathy?[/QUOTE] No. They get no sympathy from me. The Egyptians have been being prosecuted by their own government for YEARS, as in death. They're poor, tired, beaten, etc. They deserve freedom just as much as anyone else. College kids: Tired of big businesses controlling all of their money and deciding the fate of their loans. They camp in public places and damage local properties, yet they claim they are doing it "peacefully." Breaking windows at a bank is NOT peaceful. It's become a pissing match between the cops and the protesters, the cause is lost.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33824288]Egyptian protesters: Want freedom and stability. Get smacked with batons and shot at, killed, etc. American protesters: Want cheaper college payments. Get pepper sprayed and call the police monsters. I can at least feel bad for the Egyptians.[/QUOTE] Yes, because that's what the entire movement was about, cheaper college payments. Not corporate influence in government, not income inequality, not the deterioration of public services. Nope, not at all.
If history has taught us anything it's that there will always been financial inequality. Throwing a fit about it and being a complete ass isn't going to prevent that from happening. The funny thing is, you don't many old people at these protests, the people who have the right to be angry. Instead it's a bunch of whiny teenagers who haven't even really held over more than a part time job at McDonald's. Work your entire life first, then bitch about financial inequality.
[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;33825262]Kill every pig.[/QUOTE] Yes, that's a good thing to say: [url]http://www.tampabay.com/news/lakeland-police-officer-arnulfo-crispin-dies-in-hospital-after-shooting/1207358[/url] Regardless, I feel as though [B]this[/B], not the occupy "Brutality" should be getting noticed by the media. Every time some angsty teenager gets maced in the face, it's headline shit, but stuff like this seems to go more or less unnoticed.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33834257]I'm pretty sure a Canadian news agency was responsible for "stirring the pot" on the protests.[/QUOTE] Wasn't it Adbusters? Also, notice how the one officer, despite the melee and chaos, feels that it's still necessary to cover the beaten woman's chest with her shawl for the sake of "modesty". It's as if he thinks that it's perfectly alright that she's being dehumanized and beaten but God forbid if a bit of skin is shown. It's a really hypocritical gesture.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33839772]If history has taught us anything it's that there will always been financial inequality. Throwing a fit about it and being a complete ass isn't going to prevent that from happening.[/QUOTE]You obviously want to sound like you know what you're talking about, but clearly don't. My suggestion: Stop posting.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33838480]College kids: Tired of big businesses controlling all of their money and deciding the fate of their loans.[/QUOTE] you've missed the entire point of the protests gg [editline]22nd December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=CrispexOps;33839772]If history has taught us anything it's that there will always been financial inequality. Throwing a fit about it and being a complete ass isn't going to prevent that from happening. The funny thing is, you don't many old people at these protests, the people who have the right to be angry. Instead it's a bunch of whiny teenagers who haven't even really held over more than a part time job at McDonald's. Work your entire life first, then bitch about financial inequality.[/QUOTE] thanks for further proving my point financial equality should not occur as much as it does in a first world country, where [url=http://news.yahoo.com/revised-govt-formula-shows-poverty-high-49-1m-135427317.html]16% of people are living in poverty[/url] and [url=http://www.mybudget360.com/top-1-percent-control-42-percent-of-financial-wealth-in-the-us-how-average-americans-are-lured-into-debt-servitude-by-promises-of-mega-wealth/]and the top 1% owns 42% of wealth in america[/url] and don't say they're a bunch of unemployed teenagers [url=http://owsnews.org/will-fukushima-bankrupt-japan-%E2%86%92-most-%E2%80%9Coccupy%E2%80%9D-protesters-have-jobs-%E2%80%A6-unemployment-much-lower-than-in-tea-party/]when only 15% are actually unemployed[/url]
I'm not saying that people SHOULDN'T protest, as it's our "given right", I'm saying these protests are lost causes. The government pretty much said nothing will be done, businesses just go "pfft", and now there are damaged properties, injured people, etc. So what exactly have these changed? Let me explain something else. When you approach an officer and start staring / filming / keep approaching, as seen in many videos where people are being pepper sprayed / shot with rubber bullets (no, I'm not implying that EVERYONE does that), you are committing a threatening act. Police have NO way of knowing if you're armed or not, or what kind of devices you may or may not be carrying. It's downright stupid to approach an officer during a protest.
Rated funny, not because of the brutality, but because this is the EXACT thing they were trying to get out of before.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33845113]I'm not saying that people SHOULDN'T protest, as it's our "given right", I'm saying these protests are lost causes. The government pretty much said nothing will be done, businesses just go "pfft", and now there are damaged properties, injured people, etc. So what exactly have these changed? Let me explain something else. When you approach an officer and start staring / filming / keep approaching, as seen in many videos where people are being pepper sprayed / shot with rubber bullets (no, I'm not implying that EVERYONE does that), you are committing a threatening act. Police have NO way of knowing if you're armed or not, or what kind of devices you may or may not be carrying. It's downright stupid to approach an officer during a protest.[/QUOTE] of course the protests are going to take some time, you can't expect progress instantly and what exactly is so threatening about staring at a police officer, or walking near them, attacking someone based on those reasons should show that they're too paranoid or mad with power to have weaponry and the power to arrest civilians
I support police brutality ^.^
[QUOTE=thispieiscold;33849835]of course the protests are going to take some time, you can't expect progress instantly and what exactly is so threatening about staring at a police officer, or walking near them, attacking someone based on those reasons should show that they're too paranoid or mad with power to have weaponry and the power to arrest civilians[/QUOTE] Think of the situation. Things are already out of hand, then you get people start walking toward you. It's in their protocol to expect people to act strange / do things like that near them.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33852992]Think of the situation. Things are already out of hand, then you get people start walking toward you. It's in their protocol to expect people to act strange / do things like that near them.[/QUOTE] pepper spraying someone is a tad over the top as a reaction to someone walking towards you
[QUOTE=thispieiscold;33853032]pepper spraying someone is a tad over the top as a reaction to someone walking towards you[/QUOTE] It's protocol. As a cop, if you feel like your life or the lives of others are threatened, you MUST act.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33853333]It's protocol. As a cop, if you feel like your life or the lives of others are threatened, you MUST act.[/QUOTE] sorry but i just don't find people walking near me particularly threatening
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33853333]It's protocol. As a cop, if you feel like your life or the lives of others are threatened, you MUST act.[/QUOTE]You can feel however you like, walking is not a hostile action. It's primarily used for movement.
I hope that guy who brought us the I love Baton thread when this all kicked off last time is ok.
[QUOTE=a203xi;33853416]You can feel however you like, walking is not a hostile action. It's primarily used for movement.[/QUOTE] Are you guys not understanding what I'm saying? As a cop, if someone is moving toward you, especially during protests, and they're provoking you into a response, that's threatening.
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