• The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) - Spidey's back in a brand spanking new movie!
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I personally loved this one much more than the Tobey Maguire ones. I don't know why people like the old ones so much. I wonder if it's nostalgia. I was quite young when I saw the Raimi films, looking back I can't stand them. I don't like most of the actors, and I couldn't stand the character development scenes. I felt this one was well rounded and had a good cast of characters. No angry boss, no Harry Osbourne(thankfully), no Mary Jane. I liked Aunt May better, and actually enjoyed the character scenes in this one. I loved Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy, they did a great job with that. I'm glad it was darker and(slightly) more realistic. I'm pretty sure [sp]that was Norman at the end. There's no way it wasn't. The only thing that confuses me is how he got into the cell.[/sp] I was waiting the whole film to [sp]see if he ever found Ben's killer. One part of me wants that to be addressed in the sequel, but I'm sure by now he'll go all compassionate pacifist and let him go. It'd still be nice to see a resolution one way or another.[/sp] I'm hoping they don't ruin the sequel(s). Usually sequels to anything leave me rather unimpressed, but I'll have my fingers crossed. I also hated [sp]the Goblin in the last Spiderman, so I'm hoping they'll improve. I actually hated all the villains the last time around except for Venom, and even he wasn't that great.[/sp] Did Aunt May [sp]know he was Spider-Man at the end? I thought she did once he walked in the door. But in the scene where Gwen visits him after the funeral, I couldn't tell.[/sp] [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] That was also the best Stan Lee scene in any Marvel Film. To be honest his appearance in the Avengers sucked.
Er, people don't like the older ones because of nostalgia. We like the old ones because they actually got Spiderman's character and themes right. Also they had a great lightness in tone, and an element of fun about them, something this one was sorely lacking in.
[QUOTE=Whatsinaname;36657276]Er, people don't like the older ones because of nostalgia. We like the old ones because they actually got Spiderman's character and themes right. Also they had a great lightness in tone, and an element of fun about them, something this one was sorely lacking in.[/QUOTE] I dunno, I honestly thought most of the non-action scenes in the last trilogy were downright boring or cheesy.
Saw it last night. The 3D was terrible, but I suspect its just because the theater we were at had terrible 3D projectection. It was awesome. I love the new spiderman character and actor much more than the ones portrayed by McGuire in the old movies. Toby just always came off as too "super-heroy", while this spiderman is much more down to earth, relateable, and has "flaws" to him - he's not just some super-man style super hero. And the Skater motif really goes well with Spiderman as a character, and explains how a person like that could be so eager to jump into the role of Spiderman. With Toby's character in the old movies, it's just a sterotypical "Woh!! I Have superpowers and now I have the taste for adventure with a side of revenge!". While in this one, the character Peter Parker more belivably takes on the role of Spiderman. The action scenes were great. It was obvious a lot was cut from the movie though, since there's several plot threads/scenes that were never caught back to (lizard cops? the guy with the star tattoo?). I also like how [sp]Dr. Connors[/sp] was more a Dr. Jeckel/Hyde type villian instead of "MWHAHA I AM EVIL LIZARD MAN". He clearly didn't want to do harm, but when he was a lizard he just couldn't control himself. Despite being 2.5 hours long, and a suprrising amount of exposition/build up for a super hero movie, I never once looked at my watch wondering how long I had left to go. It really just flew by. I was drawn into the characters, and right when the build up might have started to outstay it's welcome, it picked up the pace and threw something new/cool at you.
Just saw the movie. Fantastic, really. Andrew Garfield was brilliant, and Emma Stone was just as great. Rhys Ifans wasn't bad either. Actually, the cast as a whole was pretty perfect. The pacing was great, too. You got a real sense of Peter's growth into Spiderman. The movie wasn't Avengers perfect, but it was definitely one of the better ones I've seen.
[QUOTE=Sgt.Kiddles;36624014]Man, Martin Sheen killed it as Uncle Ben. He was so likeable and relatable in this film. [sp] I actually almost cried when he died, even though I knew it was going to happen. It still Caught me off guard. Unlike in Spider-man 1 where I was just like "Uncle Ben died, yep now here comes the spider-man parts". That Voice recording also made me teary eyed.[/sp] Spoilered. Even though it should be obvious. I loved this movie, It blew Rami's Spider-Man films out of the water.[/QUOTE] Yeah it was kinda wierd, there were some legit emotional parts in this movie. Loved it. The way he just kinda listens to Ben's voice message half way through the movie after [sp]he dies. And then at the end he finally listens to the full message... perfect closure. And was a pretty emotional scene. I also really liked how much it tears the Aunt apart in this movie. I mean, I legit felt somewhat emotionally bad for her as a character, because her husband dies, and after that she keeps seeing her troubled teen nephew coming home all beat up. Mixed them making her look and act like she's not been sleeping after seeing Peter in that state, it's really touching.[/sp]
Andrew Garfield portrays emotion better than Tobey MacGuire does in every way possible. The scene when [sp]he comes home to Aunt May looking like he just got the shit kicked out of him and he begs her to go to sleep[/sp] really got me. The casting was monumentally better too, Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone have really nice on screen chemistry compared to MacGuire and Dunst. They just feel.. like.. [b]old[/b]. I'm also glad that they focused on Peter's responsibility to make up for his mistakes rather than the generic ''Damsel In Distress'' trope.
The biggest problem is, this movie is being SO well recieved by people here, when I say I think it was just GOOD, that probably makes it look like I'm shit talking it or something V:v:V But I am REALLY excited to see what they do with the sequel. They've got the origin out of the way, now they're free to do something totally original. But as good as it was, I don't think it's as PERFECT as everyone here is saying it is (but it's not NEARLY as bad as the critics are saying, I'd say it's about as good as Spider-Man 2, going by a straight up comparison scale).
Just got back from seeing it. I loved the Sam Raimi films, but this one blew it away in every way. Spider-Man was a lot more likable and I felt like [sp]uncle Ben's death[/sp] was a lot more believable.
Believe it or not, I saw something INTELLIGENT in YouTube comments! Someone suggested that [sp]the Mysterious Stinger-Man is actually Maxwell Dillon, aka Electro. He appears and disappears from Connors' jail cell with a flash of lighting.[/sp]
I just want to come back and say one thing: I would have [i]no problem[/i] if they broke continuity and let Gwen live. Emma Stone is hot, innocent looking, and actually a perfect Gwen Stacy. I'm just... I don't know. Also, for the people who say Gwen was killed by Spidey: They kind of muddied the waters in later editions by saying the fall induced a fatal heart attack which killed her before Spidey caught her. So it's kind of up in the air. Regardless, please, PLEASE let her live! I love her character more than I ever liked Dunst as MJ.
also why the fuck did Ben go for that dude's gun the guy probably would have just like left but Ben had to fucking grab the dude's gun what a moron [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] it's the same fundamental writing flaw that troubled Prometheus hey let's have this character do some MIND BOGGLINGLY STUPID THING for the sake of plot lazy writing lazy lazy lazy
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;36659286]also why the fuck did Ben go for that dude's gun the guy probably would have just like left but Ben had to fucking grab the dude's gun what a moron [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] it's the same fundamental writing flaw that troubled Prometheus hey let's have this character do some MIND BOGGLINGLY STUPID THING for the sake of plot lazy writing lazy lazy lazy[/QUOTE] ... I thought it kinda fit the character... You know, stop the bad guy...
stop the bad guy sure ok there are ways to do that that don't get you shot
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;36659414]stop the bad guy sure ok there are ways to do that that don't get you shot[/QUOTE] an obvious thief loses his gun an opportunity to keep him from getting it back arises seriously, it's not a writing flaw at all stop being a pseudo-intellectual
[QUOTE=BldrGyMnGy;36659452]an obvious thief loses his gun an opportunity to keep him from getting it back arises seriously, it's not a writing flaw at all stop being a pseudo-intellectual[/QUOTE] He was 10 feet from it, while the robber was about 6 inches away.
I do see how Ben going for the gun fits the character, but that doesn't meant it's a SMART decision.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;36659286]also why the fuck did Ben go for that dude's gun the guy probably would have just like left but Ben had to fucking grab the dude's gun what a moron [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] it's the same fundamental writing flaw that troubled Prometheus hey let's have this character do some MIND BOGGLINGLY STUPID THING for the sake of plot lazy writing lazy lazy lazy[/QUOTE] Like Uncle Ben said, [I]"Your father believed that if you can do good things for other people, you had a moral responsibility to do those things"[/I] The guilt of Uncle Ben's death which was caused by Peter's lack of caring to go after the thief gave him the drive to take responsibility for his actions. Also typing like this makes you look like a MIND BOGGLINGLY STUPID asshole.
[QUOTE=0frost;36655418]I haven't seen the movie yet and I've had my theorizes that this movie was gonna be bad but I've been waiting to see it for myself before passing too much judgement. How ever even though I have my gripes with Movie Bob he's never really pointed me in an awful direction which is why I'm kinda of afraid to go see this movie now. The last time he had multiple episodes to tell me how bad a movie is it was Green Lantern and that movie was pretty damn shit if you ask me. [URL]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/6003-Untangling-Spider-Man[/URL][/QUOTE] Fuck, I wish he could just enjoy life. I legitimately feel sorry for him. [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;36659414]stop the bad guy sure ok there are ways to do that that don't get you shot[/QUOTE] What is up with moviegoers these days and expecting every character to be completely cool-headed and never make any mistakes
I wouldn't say the film was dark or realistic. Why do people say it is? It still was about a nerd swinging round in spandex fighting a giant lizard. Plenty of humour. If not more. Parker is much more in character and therefore painfully socially awkward and kinda hilarious. When Rami made Parker into a useless socially retarded nerd it was all wrong. Parker has NEVER been like that. He scores hot girls for gods sake. Then when he was Spiderman Rami made him very 1-dimensional hero who didn't joke and was purely focused on heroism. Rami would've made a GREAT Superman movie. It wasn't as bubblegum as Ramis films, it was more in tone to the comics for sure, but it wasn't dark at all. That would be a terrible thing. I just wish he spent more time swinging round in the day. There was only like 2 times. [sp]Once when we first see the suit and again when he fights lizard in the school[/sp]
[QUOTE=Dan2593;36661361]Parker is much more in character and therefore painfully socially awkward and kinda hilarious. When Rami made Parker into a useless socially retarded nerd it was all wrong. Parker has NEVER been like that. He scores hot girls for gods sake. Then when he was Spiderman Rami made him very 1-dimensional hero who didn't joke and was purely focused on heroism. Rami would've made a GREAT Superman movie.[/QUOTE] Did you even read the comics? Peter Parker IS a useless, socially retarded nerd who gets superpowers, and getting superpowers doesn't instantly make him less socially retarded. Also, he did make jokes, but not to the point of being incredibly annoying like in the new one. And even so, how does not constantly making jokes somehow make him two dimensional? He still came off as somewhat cheerful/light hearted as Spiderman without them. What you're saying makes absolutely no sense. Man, look at this hot stud scoring all the hot chicks. [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_543wI3Z8gDM/S0YY1mlr1SI/AAAAAAAAAOo/uJjWfNlQJvo/s400/amazing+fantasy+15+-+02.jpg[/IMG]
The one thing that bugs me though is [sp]towards the end he gets shot in the leg and has difficulties swinging to the Oscorp building, but once he gets there, he seems perfectly fine in the fight.[/sp] Other than that, I loved it. I'm usually not a fan of new super hero movies (I absolutely do not like the new Batman movies, nor did I care too much for The Avengers or any of the films that led to it) but this one was great.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;36661361]I wouldn't say the film was dark or realistic. Why do people say it is? It still was about a nerd swinging round in spandex fighting a giant lizard. Plenty of humour. If not more. Parker is much more in character and therefore painfully socially awkward and kinda hilarious. When Rami made Parker into a useless socially retarded nerd it was all wrong. Parker has NEVER been like that. He scores hot girls for gods sake. Then when he was Spiderman Rami made him very 1-dimensional hero who didn't joke and was purely focused on heroism. Rami would've made a GREAT Superman movie. It wasn't as bubblegum as Ramis films, it was more in tone to the comics for sure, but it wasn't dark at all. That would be a terrible thing. I just wish he spent more time swinging round in the day. There was only like 2 times. [sp]Once when we first see the suit and again when he fights lizard in the school[/sp][/QUOTE] I wouldn't say it's a dark/realistic movie but it certainly has an air of belivable/realistic atmosphere, and the characters feel more "real" and "relatable" to your average person. It's a far cry from the Rami films which were very "super-heroy", which is understandable since it was one of the first superhero movies that came out and made the "genre" really popular. I think a lot of it has to do with just how much to story focused on the characters, setting, and build up instead of just focusing entirely on the superpowers and plot. It was a very character-driven narrative, and was really enjoyable to watch as one, instead of a narrative driven entirely by the "super hero" and "heroic plot". [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=BanthaFodder;36658264]The biggest problem is, this movie is being SO well recieved by people here, when I say I think it was just GOOD, that probably makes it look like I'm shit talking it or something V:v:V But I am REALLY excited to see what they do with the sequel. They've got the origin out of the way, now they're free to do something totally original. But as good as it was, I don't think it's as PERFECT as everyone here is saying it is (but it's not NEARLY as bad as the critics are saying, I'd say it's about as good as Spider-Man 2, going by a straight up comparison scale).[/QUOTE] I think the thing is, is that usually a lot of super hero movies as of late have been more or less gimmicks (sans Avengers, which was a really fun and well done movie), combined with the fact that the last Spiderman movie was literally terrible. When compared against that, this movie really comes out and shines. As a movie overall it wasn't perfect, just pretty good, but it was exactly what the genre and the Spiderman movie IP needed, so in that sense it feels perfect.
i loved this film 3 day ago... Sure it isn't an awesom but for the funs are excellent. Have you understand who is the next enemy??
[QUOTE=Whatsinaname;36662432]Did you even read the comics? Peter Parker IS a useless, socially retarded nerd who gets superpowers, and getting superpowers doesn't instantly make him less socially retarded. Also, he did make jokes, but not to the point of being incredibly annoying like in the new one. And even so, how does not constantly making jokes somehow make him two dimensional? He still came off as somewhat cheerful/light hearted as Spiderman without them. What you're saying makes absolutely no sense. Man, look at this hot stud scoring all the hot chicks. [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_543wI3Z8gDM/S0YY1mlr1SI/AAAAAAAAAOo/uJjWfNlQJvo/s400/amazing+fantasy+15+-+02.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I've read the comics and I get the feeling Peter was smart, outcast and not lucky in love. But not a social retard who can't even catch a bus properly and creepily stares at girls. Hell even in the extract you posted he asks a girl out point blank. In dialogue that could nearly be lifted from Amazing Spider-man. Let's not forget Peter dated Betty, Banged Gwen, Banged Mary Jane (Both of which were pretty hot) and then even got pissed and fucked his female housemate in a one night stand. Then Chameleon posed as him and she was all over him again. Ultimate Spidey (Which Peters looks and feel is mostly based of) seems to be doing the rounds too. Not sure if he fucked her in the end, but he got Black Cat in the sack. But she realised he was a kid in the heat of the moment and threw up on him. The point is the only way Peter looks like how you imagine him is if you've used Ramis films as source material. Every other spidey adaptation has gone with the same thing. Peter Parker was written as an everyman, not a social dimwit, somebody we all can relate to. The only reason he's dressed in a shirt and tie up above is coz it's the fucking early 60's.
[QUOTE=Whatsinaname;36657276]Er, people don't like the older ones because of nostalgia. We like the old ones because they actually got Spiderman's character and themes right. Also they had a great lightness in tone, and an element of fun about them, something this one was sorely lacking in.[/QUOTE] The thing the old movies did NOT get right was Spiderman's character, what the fuck are you on about.
[QUOTE=BldrGyMnGy;36659452]an obvious thief loses his gun an opportunity to keep him from getting it back arises seriously, it's not a writing flaw at all stop being a pseudo-intellectual[/QUOTE] uh he didn't start wrestling it from the dude until after the guy had grabbed it again stop flinging around insults like you know what they mean [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Hysteric;36660304]Like Uncle Ben said, [I]"Your father believed that if you can do good things for other people, you had a moral responsibility to do those things"[/I] The guilt of Uncle Ben's death which was caused by Peter's lack of caring to go after the thief gave him the drive to take responsibility for his actions. Also typing like this makes you look like a MIND BOGGLINGLY STUPID asshole.[/QUOTE] ehh oh he's criticizing the movie I like a bunch and pointing out obvious flaws better call him an asshole!! a+ im not questioning the fucking point of it you idiot, I'm saying uncle Ben suddenly acted like a massive retard for the sake of getting shot to advance the plot
Or themes. Spideys main focus was never love. It's a shame because Rami nailed a lot of things such as Aunt May, JJJ, Goblin (Minus the costume), and Harry. Yet ballsed up everything else. He was going to take Felicia Hardy and instead of her becoming Black Cat she was going to become Vulture. The man ended up just wanting to tell his own story using the Spidey aesthetics. [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;36663666]ehh oh he's criticizing the movie I like a bunch and pointing out obvious flaws better call him an asshole!! I feel p good about my life right now![/QUOTE] A bunch? It's my understanding audience surveys show that the majority of the audience have been giving this film a score of A-. It's a few, and all the few who have their voice published. IGN had to publish an article telling people to chill out when people started getting really against the negative review on that site. Infact another IGN writer felt compelled enough to write his own review to balance it. Gurantee sites like Meta Critic and Rottern Tomatoes only go with the negative one.
or maybe being noble to the point where you'll do irrational and silly things and risk your life for no really good reason is part of bens character and I just never realized that?? like I always got the impression the guy was all about doing good without being stupid about it
R.I.P Will always remember ya. [hd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP_a90UvUGI[/hd]
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