• The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) - Spidey's back in a brand spanking new movie!
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I second what some guy said above me 1: Spiderman 2 2: The Amazing Spiderman 3: Spiderman 4: Spiderman 3
[QUOTE=Simski;36704522]I'm still pretty alright with the idea that the lizard genes made him more animal than man, which is why his humanitarian ideas if curing mankind was not forgotten, but changed into an obsession with the survival and reproduction of his own species. His goal is after all still not to destroy the world or kill all the humans, his goal is to make every human into a better more powerful species.[/QUOTE] Then [sp] why did he randomly throw vehicles from the bridge when he wanted to get to that dude[/sp] Also I don't know if this is just a synchro fuckup but they reused that "talking to myself" part of the Goblin in Spidey 1 when the lizard was in the sewers.
[QUOTE=Killuah;36706037]Then [sp] why did he randomly throw vehicles from the bridge when he wanted to get to that dude[/sp][/QUOTE] Being a dumbass and not able to control his aggression
[quote]His goal is after all still not to destroy the world or kill all the humans, his goal is to make every human into a better more powerful species.[/quote] It's okay to kill a few when it's totaly not necessary for anything at all mkay yea that will do. Also what absolutely takes the cake in terms of lazy and stupid writing is when the lizards comes up from under the fucking toilet. I can almost hear the thoughts of those writers: "Hm we need a spectacular way for the lizard to get into the [sp]school[/sp] so we can fullfill the wishes of the angsty teens of trashing up their [sp]school[/sp], what do?" "Dunno, he bursts out of the canals on the street?" "No that's not spectacular enough, people don't associate canals with sewers, we need to make it REALLY FUCKING CLEAR where he comes from and where he belongs." "I know, let's make him burst out of THAT" *points to the other room "Brilliant idea!"
I'm gonna get a LOT of heat for this... But I kinda like [sp]Spider-Man 3[/sp]. I know it has problems, LOTS of problems, they just don't bother me as much as they do everyone else... I mean, the bad parts are REALLY BAD (the dance scene, shoehorning Gwen in, etc.) but the good parts were pretty damn good (Sandman coming back to life, pretty much every fight scene, Peter fighting the symbiote and it attaching to Eddie, etc.)
[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;36708073]I'm gonna get a LOT of heat for this... But I kinda like [sp]Spider-Man 3[/sp]. I know it has problems, LOTS of problems, they just don't bother me as much as they do everyone else... I mean, the bad parts are REALLY BAD (the dance scene, shoehorning Gwen in, etc.) but the good parts were pretty damn good (Sandman coming back to life, pretty much every fight scene, Peter fighting the symbiote and it attaching to Eddie, etc.)[/QUOTE] Yeah, same here. They made venom a pussy though, he shouldnt have looked like: [img]http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/venom-spider-man-3-topher-grace.jpg[/img] Shoulda looked more like the concept art: [img]http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg245/scaled.php?server=245&filename=venomtransform0vb8.jpg&res=landing[/img] Or you know, anything close to this: [img]http://cdn-images.hollywood.com/site/VENOM-movie-interview.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=AaronM202;36708657]Yeah, same here. They made venom a pussy though, he shouldnt have looked like: [img]http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/venom-spider-man-3-topher-grace.jpg[/img] Shoulda looked more like the concept art: [img]http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg245/scaled.php?server=245&filename=venomtransform0vb8.jpg&res=landing[/img] Or you know, anything close to this: [img]http://cdn-images.hollywood.com/site/VENOM-movie-interview.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Also, Topher Grace was way too small to be Venom. They should have at least used some CGI hoodoo to make him bigger when the symbiote suit was active.
[QUOTE=benaq;36708698]Also, Topher Grace was way too small to be Venom. They should have at least used some CGI hoodoo to make him bigger when the symbiote suit was active.[/QUOTE] Venom is usually like what? 7 feet tall? Looks like a candidate for the mr. olympia contest? Then they got that pussy thats on screen for a grand total of.... 7 minutes.
And re-write it totally so he doesn't take off the mask to talk and emphasise the fact Venom is a "We" not an "I". Also let him seriously fuck shit up a bit.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;36708766]And re-write it totally so he doesn't take off the mask to talk and emphasise the fact Venom is a "We" not an "I". Also let him seriously fuck shit up a bit.[/QUOTE] Basically, the venom in that movie was more like if venom was 5 foot 9, had flabby arms, and has to go run around every wednesday so he doesnt get fat from eating chocolate. Totally not a secret reference to something from the 90's
[QUOTE=Rusty100;36702252]I mean, I liked this movie but most of it didn't make any fucking sense and only was the way it was for plot convenience even though it defied all logic [sp]Why did the scientist man become a huge asshole and start throwing people off a bridge when he had just previously given up his career because he didn't want to do human trials on moral grounds? And then, still considering that, why did he want to turn everyone into lizard monsters? Why did he suddenly become lizard hitler? Does lizard dna make you a giant asshole for no reason? Why did uncle ben try to grab that guys gun even though if you left him alone he posed you no threat? He seemed like a pretty reasonable guy, and I know he thinks people are morally obliged to do whatever they can to help others, but grabbing for a robbers gun from right in front of him is just really stupid. The only reason he did that was so he can die and Spiderman can become Spiderman. Did he read the script? That could have been done in a way that didn't make a character do something totally stupid. Why did it take so long for Spiderman to realise the scientist was the lizard monster? He only finally realised when he saw the lizard mouse. Does he know somebody else working on how to splice lizard dna into people who have horrific scales on the side of their face? Why was that machine on the building so top secret and dangerous? All it did was launch chemicals that you have to make yourself into the air, then explode them. It's basically a mortar or something. Why did it need a count down sequence just to fire something into the air? to make it more sciencey? Why did spiderman say 'those are the best kind of promises' at the end? Is he trying to tell her that he's going to break his promises all the time? Shouldn't he have said something that implied he only breaks his promises sometimes? Is he trying to convince her he's an untrustworthy asshole who doesn't even keep promises he makes to dying people? Now gwen stacy has to die because peter has a spider boner for her, so they can make room for mary jane? maybe there was no mary jane, maybe that's a metaphor for spiderman's weed addiction. maybe he never was spider man and it's all psychosis induced hallucination ???[/sp] On top of all that, everyone was just a huge coincidence, every character tied in to the plot too conveniently. There's heaps more stuff too but those are some main plot problems[/QUOTE] finally, someone who isn't retarded
He came OUT OF THE FUCKING TOILET
I think they should introduce venom as arecurring villian, and introduce carnage in a later movie. so spidey and venom have to team up to defeat carnage.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;36709931]finally, someone who isn't retarded[/QUOTE] yep we're retarded for liking a movie
[QUOTE=goldenbuttocks;36710913]yep we're retarded for liking a movie[/QUOTE] what rusty liked the movie too that's not even what I'm getting at guy more about uncle Ben becoming stupid for a second for plot advancement
finally watched it tonight I really liked it, im so glad they didn't [sp] have him run out of web fluid i hate that so much its just such a cheap and boring way of evening the odd's.[/sp] it dragged on a bit , interested to see what they do with the sequel.
Watched this a couple of hours ago. Help, I've fallen in love and can't get up. [img]http://cdn.crushable.com/files/2012/07/Emma-Stone-Gwen-Stacy-Amazing-Spider-Man-490x306.jpg[/img] I loved the movie. I'm not going all "Super serious buzz-kill" detective on it like some of you want to because I enjoyed it none the less. The only thing I thought was stupid was the incident with Ben and the fact that Gwen works where she does. I didn't know high school students could get internships at a place like that...
[QUOTE=Mrs. Moon;36713428]Watched this a couple of hours ago. Help, I've fallen in love and can't get up. [img]http://cdn.crushable.com/files/2012/07/Emma-Stone-Gwen-Stacy-Amazing-Spider-Man-490x306.jpg[/img] I loved the movie. I'm not going all "Super serious buzz-kill" detective on it like some of you want to because I enjoyed it none the less. The only thing I thought was stupid was the incident with Ben and the fact that Gwen works where she does. I didn't know high school students could get internships at a place like that...[/QUOTE] Well she IS pretty damn smart.
Her voice and her buggy eyes are actually what I like the most about her. Apparently she developed calyces on her vocal cords because she screamed so much as a baby. I don't mind that at all.
[QUOTE=Mrs. Moon;36713428]Watched this a couple of hours ago. Help, I've fallen in love and can't get up. [img]http://cdn.crushable.com/files/2012/07/Emma-Stone-Gwen-Stacy-Amazing-Spider-Man-490x306.jpg[/img] I loved the movie. I'm not going all "Super serious buzz-kill" detective on it like some of you want to because I enjoyed it none the less. The only thing I thought was stupid was the incident with Ben and the fact that Gwen works where she does. I didn't know high school students could get internships at a place like that...[/QUOTE] super serious buzzkill mode is called criticism if you don't like films you enjoyed having their flaws pointed out this probably isn't the section for you
Just watched this and I really don't know how you guys liked it so much [sp]cliches are all over, that fucking cranes scene what the fuuuck[/sp] [sp]also he just got out of the sewer and you're making out with him? What?[/sp]
Also thought of something, the guy in the shadows might be Morbius the Living Vampire. [sp]It's impossible to just say "Morbius" without following with "the Living Vampire"[/sp]
[QUOTE=Killuah;36710094]He came OUT OF THE FUCKING TOILET[/QUOTE] Where did he keep getting new lab coats??? does he have a whole rack of them?? [editline]11th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Fingers!!!;36715480]Just watched this and I really don't know how you guys liked it so much [sp]cliches are all over, that fucking cranes scene what the fuuuck[/sp] [sp]also he just got out of the sewer and you're making out with him? What?[/sp][/QUOTE] oh my god the cranes, i was laughing hysterically. it's like are you fucking KIDDING me?
[QUOTE=Fingers!!!;36715480]Just watched this and I really don't know how you guys liked it so much [sp]cliches are all over, that fucking cranes scene what the fuuuck[/sp] [sp]also he just got out of the sewer and you're making out with him? What?[/sp][/QUOTE] It's a movie that was based on a completely experimental comic from 2000... This not only goes for Fingers, but also everyone else who seems to like ripping the film for being cliche and having "plot holes" that really arent. Ultimate Spider-Man was the [i]first[/i] Ultimate comic ever. It was a completely experimental release designed to make the mundane, confusing, and cliche Spider-Man become cool and accessible again while still maintaining the cliche charm of old-timey comics. Does the film have a few issues? Sure. But none that are absolutely unexplainable (why didn't they just ride the Eagles into Mordor, again?) The erratic behavior of the Lizard is easily explained by his [sp]fractured psyche.[/sp] [sp]Ben grabbing the gun?[/sp] He was being a good guy to his own detriment. Don't expect Hollywood to hold your hand through a film and explain every little thing. I, for one, get insulted when I can sit through a movie and not have to think about why something happened. We all loved The Dark Knight, right? There are confusing points in that film the first time through, but Nolan basically says "figure it out." I [i]love[/i] when a movie assumes it's audience can figure stuff out. And more importantly, all of these things either came directly from the comics or would fit perfectly in them. That alone makes it a successful Spider-Man movie. [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] Also, my only real issue was the soundtrack. My friend brought this up today, but did anyone else think the music was god-awful when [sp]Gwen was hiding from Lizard at Oscorp?[/sp] High pitched piano keys and shit. Belonged in the Exorcist.
Saying that the movie is good because the source material is 'experimental' is a really horrible excuse dude [editline]11th July 2012[/editline] answer: don't make a movie based on a shitty experimental comic
[QUOTE=Rusty100;36716119]Where did he keep getting new lab coats??? does he have a whole rack of them??[/QUOTE] This as well. Big continuity error. Totally took me a second time through the film to catch it, but I blame it on all the excitement of opening night. [editline]11th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Rusty100;36716304]Saying that the movie is good because the source material is 'experimental' is a really horrible excuse dude [editline]11th July 2012[/editline] answer: don't make a movie based on a shitty experimental comic[/QUOTE] I'm not saying that either. What I'm saying is the Comic was cliche [i]on purpose[/i]. So logically a good movie adaption that kept the spirit of the source material is going to be cliche. Find me a Marvel comic that [i]isn't[/i] cliche.
[QUOTE=sdwise;36716178]It's a movie that was based on a completely experimental comic from 2000... This not only goes for Fingers, but also everyone else who seems to like ripping the film for being cliche and having "plot holes" that really arent. Ultimate Spider-Man was the [i]first[/i] Ultimate comic ever. It was a completely experimental release designed to make the mundane, confusing, and cliche Spider-Man become cool and accessible again while still maintaining the cliche charm of old-timey comics. Does the film have a few issues? Sure. But none that are absolutely unexplainable (why didn't they just ride the Eagles into Mordor, again?) The erratic behavior of the Lizard is easily explained by his [sp]fractured psyche.[/sp] [sp]Ben grabbing the gun?[/sp] He was being a good guy to his own detriment. Don't expect Hollywood to hold your hand through a film and explain every little thing. I, for one, get insulted when I can sit through a movie and not have to think about why something happened. We all loved The Dark Knight, right? There are confusing points in that film the first time through, but Nolan basically says "figure it out." I [i]love[/i] when a movie assumes it's audience can figure stuff out. And more importantly, all of these things either came directly from the comics or would fit perfectly in them. That alone makes it a successful Spider-Man movie. [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] Also, my only real issue was the soundtrack. My friend brought this up today, but did anyone else think the music was god-awful when [sp]Gwen was hiding from Lizard at Oscorp?[/sp] High pitched piano keys and shit. Belonged in the Exorcist.[/QUOTE] God I HATED the "BLARMP!" piano when the Lizard showed up. It's like "OOOH! SOMEONE JUST [i]LEANED ON THE PIANOOOOOO, BOOGABOOGABOOO!!![/i]"
[QUOTE=sdwise;36716178] I, for one, get insulted when I can sit through a movie and not have to think about why something happened.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between thinking about why something happened and being totally perplexed by a characters pointlessly stupid actions that don't even fit with the character - yeah he was a good guy with very old school morals, but nobody in their right mind would have done what he did. Literally the only reasoning for it was to advance the plot. You can try to justify it all you want, but it wasn't in his character at all. He has a duty to help others, but he also has a duty not to basically commit suicide and leave peter fatherless for the second time. Nobody with a kid to take care of is going to take such a retarded risk, especially one so out of character. He scolded peter for humiliating a bully, do you really think he'd be the kind of guy to grab a loaded weapon from right under a fleeing robber? the robber hadn't even hurt anybody yet. not that uncle ben knew that, which is the point. he has no fucking clue what this guy did and what he's capable of. nobody is going to go for that dudes gun. it makes no fuckin sense.
[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;36716335]God I HATED the "BLARMP!" piano when the Lizard showed up. It's like "OOOH! SOMEONE JUST [i]LEANED ON THE PIANOOOOOO, BOOGABOOGABOOO!!![/i]"[/QUOTE] I know, right??? Jesus. That just tore my attention from the film. Sucked me right out of the illusion.
[QUOTE=sdwise;36716315]I'm not saying that either. What I'm saying is the Comic was cliche [i]on purpose[/i].[/QUOTE] If it isn't a satire, then this argument is really shit because then it's just intentionally poor writing? That's still poor writing (if it isn't being satirical of it). And even satires need smarts behind intentionally stupid stuff.
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