[QUOTE=TheBlackViper;27118576]it hardly matters, because before you know it, you will be eighteen, and then before you know it again, you will be dead. we are all in a massively accelerated state of decay, we are all temporary little flecks of cosmic dust thrown forth into a massive, complicated universe that has existed longer than the entire scope of human kind to an exponential degree that is not possible to portray with our pathetic number system and, too, will continue to exist for an unimaginable amount of time after every single person in this thread has died and returned to the elements and everything else we have ever known, every single little bit of history and human creation on earth has returned to dust, ceasing to exist and, in the eyes of the rest of the universe, never having existed at all.[/QUOTE]
Well since you're busy being a insignificant fleck of dust, you won't mind if I just break into the meaningless speck that is your house and steal your cosmically irrelevant mote of a computer then?
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27155695]it's not like it matters much
if i had been arrested for every little thing i've done as a teenager that broke a law i'd have a long criminal record[/QUOTE]
Or be in a federal prison for life.
[editline]2nd January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mingebox;27156155]Well since you're busy being a insignificant fleck of dust, you won't mind if I just break into the meaningless speck that is your house and steal your cosmically irrelevant mote of a computer then?[/QUOTE]
I call his CPU and mother board, but only if it's better than mine, otherwise I want his hard drive.
The cops around me are pretty chill. As long as you fit in here you're good.
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No, that was not a typo.
I don't see the point in America having curfews. The teenagers who wouldn't commit crimes any way are punished unjustly and ones that do commit crimes will just ignore the curfew and commit the crimes any way.
I'm in the UK, and there's an area of my town that has a curfew. It's something like 9 or 10PM, and it's because the area itself is one of the top ten most deprived areas in the country. It's pretty rough. I went to a party once at a house that was in that area, though, and we didn't get stopped by the police when walking to the nearest petrol station to buy booze. They passed us once or twice but didn't stop us, they only go for those that are causing trouble, or look like they're about to.
I suppose it's more down to the individual police officers, but I don't agree with the idea of curfew.
[QUOTE=Killerjc;27129395]I was never stopped for curfew. Must be because I'm white
(broward county here)[/QUOTE]
I live in Broward County too and I still sometimes get pulled over during the 11 PM curfew, I get off as soon as they check my driver's license and figure out that I'm 19. Might be because I'm Asian.
this reminds me of that time a 48 year old portugese woman started hitting on me at a local pub in bristol
fuckin scary shit man, dont go drinking in bristol
lots of nutjobs
Tell everyone you know to go out late and get "Detained". This will make the cops and state think twice about it, as all of their high-paid officers are stuck detaining kids that are out late.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;27158556]I don't see the point in America having curfews. The teenagers who wouldn't commit crimes any way are punished unjustly and ones that do commit crimes will just ignore the curfew and commit the crimes any way.[/QUOTE]
Besides, they can be charged for committing said crimes anyway, it makes no sense to outlaw something to prevent something which is already illegal from being done.
[QUOTE=humpalump;27118034]Stop going out so late.[/QUOTE]
shouldn't that be his decision to make
This would not go over well in the town I live in
[QUOTE=humpalump;27118034]Stop going out so late.[/QUOTE]
What a horrible attitude.
Guns banned? Get a new hobby. Games banned? Don't play games. Free speech removed? Don't talk bad about the government.
That is so unbelievably stupid.
[QUOTE=TraderRager;27131977]Give me one example of something a 15 year old out after midnight without a chaperone would be doing that isn't illegal or otherwise idiotic.
I'm 15. I can't think of one.
:colbert:[/QUOTE]
If being out late at night should be taken away for having no practical value (that you can think of), then so should video games surely
Me and a friend went out to the part late at night and just to hang. We were really high. Some young girls for some reason were out and jumped into a pool. They ran off eventually and the cops came looking for them. They asked us about what we were doing and for ID. I didn't have any state ID, and all they needed was to check that I was over 18. He looked me up and everything and I checked out, but he still put me in the logs and not my friend who had an ID. Morale of the story, if you look young, carry your ID on you. If you don't have an ID, get one. I look pretty young so they probably had a hard time believing I was 18, regardless of my college id.
There's no curfew in a big city :smug:
[QUOTE=R3mix;27118293]Curfew only applies for those under the age of 16.[/QUOTE]
Then what's the problem.
[QUOTE=Aw_Hell;27118295]What could you possibly do that's not destructive at that hour? The law isn't hurting you so deal with it.[/QUOTE]
Getting drunk off my ass. I'm not destroying anything.
[editline]3rd January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Pepin;27162619]Me and a friend went out to the part late at night and just to hang. We were really high. Some young girls for some reason were out and jumped into a pool. They ran off eventually and the cops came looking for them. They asked us about what we were doing and for ID. I didn't have any state ID, and all they needed was to check that I was over 18. He looked me up and everything and I checked out, but he still put me in the logs and not my friend who had an ID. Morale of the story, if you look young, carry your ID on you. If you don't have an ID, get one. I look pretty young so they probably had a hard time believing I was 18, regardless of my college id.[/QUOTE]
I love how everyone American is always like "freedom fuck yeah!" when America is crazy strict about all kinds of shit, especially with teenagers.
[QUOTE=broo20;27118461]Who the fuck cares? Go out anyway, most cops wouldn't arrest you, just be all like "watch out mate, it's gettin' late," at least that would be the case in Australia.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much how it is here in the south of England, not too sure about London though.
This is a really big bump from about five months ago, I hope nobody gets mad at me for it. I just figured I'd update it because I've recently linked up with a group called the "National Youth Rights Association." Having done a plethora of research on court cases pertaining to the civil liberties of minors, I feel I'm ready to start fighting youth curfew laws at the county level.
I've organized a meeting with my local city clerk for monday, and I'll be requesting speaking time at the city commision meeting to plead my case against youth curfew laws to the council. If they decline my request to have the curfew ordinance abrogated, I'm going to work on staging several protests involving the community's youth, and of course garnering media attention and local support.
I wasn't as educated on the matter of youth rights when I first created this thread, and I feel I should clear up any confusion that there may be about whether or not the bill of rights applies to juveniles. I've just completed a seven page term paper on youth curfew laws, and the research I've done has allowed me to learn about several court precedents that make it very clear that juveniles are to be fully protected by the same civil rights as everybody else. A quick example would be the supreme court case, Missouri v. Danforth. Justice Blackmun stated "Constitutional rights do not mature and come into being magically only when one attains the state-defined age of majority. Minors, as well as adults, are protected by the Constitution and possess constitutional rights." I'm hoping that this thread will spark an interest in other teenagers who browse the forums to fight for the civil rights that have been allocated to them. Thanks for reading.
[QUOTE=TropicalV2;30114746]This is a really big bump from about five months ago, I hope nobody gets mad at me for it. I just figured I'd update it because I've recently linked up with a group called the "National Youth Rights Association." Having done a plethora of research on court cases pertaining to the civil liberties of minors, I feel I'm ready to start fighting youth curfew laws at the county level.
I've organized a meeting with my local city clerk for monday, and I'll be requesting speaking time at the city commision meeting to plead my case against youth curfew laws to the council. If they decline my request to have the curfew ordinance abrogated, I'm going to work on staging several protests involving the community's youth, and of course garnering media attention and local support.
I wasn't as educated on the matter of youth rights when I first created this thread, and I feel I should clear up any confusion that there may be about whether or not the bill of rights applies to juveniles. I've just completed a seven page term paper on youth curfew laws, and the research I've done has allowed me to learn about several court precedents that make it very clear that juveniles are to be fully protected by the same civil rights as everybody else. A quick example would be the supreme court case, Missouri v. Danforth. Justice Blackmun stated "Constitutional rights do not mature and come into being magically only when one attains the state-defined age of majority. Minors, as well as adults, are protected by the Constitution and possess constitutional rights." I'm hoping that this thread will spark an interest in other teenagers who browse the forums to fight for the civil rights that have been allocated to them. Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]
How are you going to plead your case? What parts of the Bill of Rights are you going to cite, if any?
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;30114993]How are you going to plead your case? What parts of the Bill of Rights are you going to cite, if any?[/QUOTE]
I'll be challenging the curfew ordinances on the grounds that they infringe upon a person's first amendment and fourteenth amendment rights. Freedom of assembly, and equal protection.
I have faith that you will succeed. Good luck, Godspeed.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;30115142]I have faith that you will succeed. Good luck, Godspeed.[/QUOTE]
That means a lot to me, thank you.
It's nice to see someone sticking up for minor's rights.
A few years ago, I got yelled at by a cop who caught me walking home at 1:30 AM after staying out at a friends house. He was sitting outside my driveway in his car, cause my parents didn't know where I was, so they called the cops. When I entered my house, he gave my parents and I some spiel about curfew and being fined if I did it again.
Needless to say, I've broken curfew on several occasions without any legal repercussions ever since. Anyway, I'm going to be a 'legal adult' in about a month, so I don't give a fuck anymore.
[QUOTE=Mad Chatter;30115353]Needless to say, I've broken curfew on several occasions without any legal repercussions ever since. Anyway, I'm going to be a 'legal adult' in about a month, so I don't give a fuck anymore.[/QUOTE]
This sort of law is needless and does so little to help that it might as well not even exist.
[QUOTE=TropicalV2;30115086]I'll be challenging the curfew ordinances on the grounds that they infringe upon a person's first amendment and fourteenth amendment rights. Freedom of assembly, and equal protection.[/QUOTE]
I do agree that there's a rather limited list of things that a minor can really be doing on the street late at night, but at the same time I believe that prohibiting people from doing things merely because they [I]might[/I] commit a crime is far worse than any crime that it could prevent. It'd be like banning shirts of a certain make or color, to prevent gangs.
I hope you succeed. :love:
[QUOTE=lorden;30115420]I do agree that there's a rather limited list of things that a minor can really be doing on the street late at night, but at the same time I believe that prohibiting people from doing things merely because they [I]might[/I] commit a crime is far worse than any crime that it could prevent. It'd be like banning shirts of a certain make or color, to prevent gangs.
I hope you succeed. :love:[/QUOTE]
Any infringement on minor's rights that is unnecessary is unreasonable.
[QUOTE=TropicalV2;30114746]This is a really big bump from about five months ago, I hope nobody gets mad at me for it. I just figured I'd update it because I've recently linked up with a group called the "National Youth Rights Association." Having done a plethora of research on court cases pertaining to the civil liberties of minors, I feel I'm ready to start fighting youth curfew laws at the county level.
I've organized a meeting with my local city clerk for monday, and I'll be requesting speaking time at the city commision meeting to plead my case against youth curfew laws to the council. If they decline my request to have the curfew ordinance abrogated, I'm going to work on staging several protests involving the community's youth, and of course garnering media attention and local support.
I wasn't as educated on the matter of youth rights when I first created this thread, and I feel I should clear up any confusion that there may be about whether or not the bill of rights applies to juveniles. I've just completed a seven page term paper on youth curfew laws, and the research I've done has allowed me to learn about several court precedents that make it very clear that juveniles are to be fully protected by the same civil rights as everybody else. A quick example would be the supreme court case, Missouri v. Danforth. Justice Blackmun stated "Constitutional rights do not mature and come into being magically only when one attains the state-defined age of majority. Minors, as well as adults, are protected by the Constitution and possess constitutional rights." I'm hoping that this thread will spark an interest in other teenagers who browse the forums to fight for the civil rights that have been allocated to them. Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]
In addition you can put forward that this discriminates based on age, which violates I think either the 14th or 15th amendments.
Also in my town "curfew" means, if you are walking out late at night the cops will give you a ride home.
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