• Cleaning up the GMF
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[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;48093242]Grow a pair, There's a difference here with a joke from a film and actual discrimination, and I don't think you can prove the user, his avatar or the film is racist in any way as described in the actual dictionary definition and not on your little head.[/QUOTE] This is exactly the kind of [B]TOXIC, TROLLING BEHAVIOUR[/B] that plagued the old gmf!
[QUOTE=verynicelady;48093662]Maybe we should be asking do we want an "elite" user group or not. Supposing as Rusty suggests the GMF is deleted, would people who were formerly gold members feel aggrieved? Many of them paid for it, either in OG days or during boostar availability. In my opinion "elite" status can be a useful reward and it's human nature to want a hierarchy, but I'm sure many others would disagree.[/QUOTE] Down with the bourgeois, power to the proletariat I say. Elitism over a gold name colour that you paid for seems dumb. [editline]1st July 2015[/editline] Hell, it's an internet forum. A "hierarchy" existing at all beyond the simple division between old and new posters that eventually naturally closes is a ridiculous concept.
hopefully it would at least serve as a message, but you always get those assholes who complain no matter what better to clear it than rot it, i'd say
I don't really remember why I got glod, but it had to be connected with bigger avatars and alcohol intoxication. Still, the one time I took a peek at GMF I saw furries complaining about other furries and being rude, never went there again.
[QUOTE=Ripper Roo;48093722]I don't really remember why I got glod, but it had to be connected with bigger avatars and alcohol intoxication. Still, the one time I took a peek at GMF I saw furries complaining about other furries and being rude, never went there again.[/QUOTE] All furries should be complained about equally.
[QUOTE=verynicelady;48093662]Maybe we should be asking do we want an "elite" user group or not. Supposing as Rusty suggests the GMF is deleted, would people who were formerly gold members feel aggrieved? Many of them paid for it, either in OG days or during boostar availability. In my opinion "elite" status can be a useful reward and it's human nature to want a hierarchy, but I'm sure many others would disagree.[/QUOTE] wouldn't miss it in the least, I'm here for the mapping forum tbh
What if you got Gold status after being a member x years on the forum? Lots of forums use the same thing but with "veteran" or stuff like that. Sure there'd still be some elitism cus that's unavoidable. But atleast people could get gold again, unlike now.
Keep GMF.
[QUOTE=verynicelady;48093662]Maybe we should be asking do we want an "elite" user group or not. Supposing as Rusty suggests the GMF is deleted, would people who were formerly gold members feel aggrieved? Many of them paid for it, either in OG days or during boostar availability. In my opinion "elite" status can be a useful reward and it's human nature to want a hierarchy, but I'm sure many others would disagree.[/QUOTE] I'm almost certain nobody paid for gold to gain access to the gmf.
[QUOTE=booster;48093736]What if you got Gold status after being a member x years on the forum? Lots of forums use the same thing but with "veteran" or stuff like that. Sure there'd still be some elitism cus that's unavoidable. But atleast people could get gold again, unlike now.[/QUOTE] that was already the case before
[QUOTE=booster;48093736]What if you got Gold status after being a member x years on the forum? Lots of forums use the same thing but with "veteran" or stuff like that. Sure there'd still be some elitism cus that's unavoidable. But atleast people could get gold again, unlike now.[/QUOTE] The whole "bring back get-gold-after-x-years" thing gets suggested every handful of pages in the Making Facepunch Better thread, the mods always shoot it down.
[QUOTE=Glent;48093753]that was already the case before[/QUOTE] Yeah I know, but why don't we reintroduce it? Seemed like a totally OK system to me.
Just a bit of unsolicited opinion and I'm going to go back to mapping: If you're gonna keep the GMF, start banning people for violating the gold commandments If you're not gonna ban people for violating them, delete the GMF, otherwise it is essentially a redundant general discussion subsection that a limited number of users can see where nobody can report anything
[QUOTE=Swebonny;48093740]Keep GMF.[/QUOTE]i'm curious as to why
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;48093769]so basically you are either asking to be banned with this post or saying delete it yeah?[/QUOTE] No, I said either enforce gold commandments or delete the GMF Are you feeling okay?
[QUOTE=MissingNoGuy;48093767]i'm curious as to why[/QUOTE] I-I love GMF. -_-''
I don't understand the big hullabaloo about gold members. I don't even look at people's names or their avatars when they post, unless it's an unforgivably bad post. I guess looking at the RC would be interesting sometimes, but most of the people there I don't want to see post, so it works out for me that I don't have to. I suppose there's a status thing with being a gold member, but that goes with post count and join date too - but once again, those things aren't as important as the content of your posts. [b]Why don't especially good posters be recommended for an elite group, rather than people who paid for it or just stayed here?[/b] It wasn't hard for lumps of shit to stay on Facepunch back when all you needed to do was have post count and join date, and having people buy it definitely makes it less exclusive and more open to trash. However, if there was some sort of an election for really good posters (Zeke, dai, Zone [when he isn't snipping his posts], etc.) then that group would not only be more exclusive and elite, but not a total cesspool. This isn't a suggestion to abolish gold member. It's just an idea for a possible tertiary rank that solves the problems I'm seeing with gold members and their forum.
I think people should figure out what type of threads will get some activity going on there, being afraid to post there is pretty dumb especially since commandments are a guarantee now? [editline]1st July 2015[/editline] You shouldn't be afraid of old grandpa rusty telling you to kill yourself too
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;48093779]read what you are citing and then realize where you are reading them people have been banned for it in the past literally says so in the thread[/QUOTE] But I haven't leaked anything or listed what they are??? I think you need to take a break, you're trying really hard to demean my argument without any logical base to make it from, and it's not making you look very good
I think we should talk about the real issue which is those elitist green colored names nerds with their giant avatars and secret subforum
Removing GMF doesn't mean removing gold member status, there wouldn't have to be any "former" golds. Keep GMF, just start enforcing the commandments in there, give OIFY back to blues (as a hidden forum), then golds & blues have a place to shitpost and do stupid shit. And make Firerain a mod. And ban anime.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;48087730]The forum's actual toilet is hidden, and people forgotten about it and it's useful purpose.[/QUOTE] So what you want to say if you lock a toilet room in a house people will start shitting on the floor in the most remote room. [editline]1st July 2015[/editline] Truly, a microcosm of the real world.
[QUOTE=TrafficMan;48093861]I think we should talk about the real issue which is those elitist green colored names nerds with their giant avatars and secret subforum[/QUOTE]don't forget the fancy backgrounds surrounding said avatars
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;48093420]I think the idea of a sponsor system to vote in new golds is terrible, unless your goal is to make the GMF the exact same kind of exclusive group that you're supposedly trying to get rid of. People are just going to vote for their friends, and vote against people they dislike, and soon enough the GMF will be in exactly the same boat it was in before, but with a different group of people.[/QUOTE] Which is why I suggested maybe going with a system where the (I guess more helpful??) people in the "sub communities" on FacePunch get gold. It ends up not as a group of "popular people", not as a group of "I paid for it" people, but a group of people who take the time to not only take part in various different aspects of Facepunch, but also of people who help the community and help make it a better place. People who are always helping in programming sections, art sections, the guitar thread, the automotive thread, the drugs thread (their knowledge about drugs has probably saved at least one curious person from ODing on something accidentally), depression advice thread, and people from other sections/threads where users can literally ask questions about something they don't know and get help. Our community is so diverse in our knowledge and interests, and we've taken it so far that users who have knowledge in various areas have helped create various "resource centers" for those who have problems or questions. I think it would be a great idea to reward these people who are (as much as they can be) dedicated to keeping these hubs of knowledge open for all to use. You would end up with a diverse range of gold members, in which "I don't like them" won't prevent people from being chosen, and the ones who get it will be people who actively contribute to the forums in some kind of meaningful way.
i don't think mentioning the gold commandments is "leaking" nobody would be shocked to find that GMF has its own rules i think the no leaking rule is aimed more at specific content, it's not fight club, everyone knows it exists
Honestly this thread has basically been skirting leaking GMF content the entire time so
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;48093939]it has precedent at least, what i was saying is that if they started fully enforcing the rules then his post should get himself banned for leaking, as those rules are themselves within GMF[/QUOTE] theres also a precedent for being banned for "faggot" and i dont see the gay chat thread huddled in a corner wondering who's next
Make GMF readable by everyone but allow only golds to post in there
If we're all openly talking about what to do with the GMF in GD of all places, can we not drop that silly "don't leak the GMF" rule just once? It just seems a little asinine to have a discussion about the GMF when only a small number of users have any actual understanding of its problems, and said users can't actually talk in detail for fear of being banned. Maybe the mods should move this discussion to the GMF itself?
gold member is not "elite". on the 2 years 2k post system it was a way of going "nice, you apparently aren't a shithead, here's a few nice things" most of these problems would be solved if the mods started banning salty assholes from the gmf more often and it was easier to get gold
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