I haven't even looked in there in the longest time. It's not bad, there just doesn't seem to be enough activity for the good content to push away the bad content.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;48087224]Dear posters,
You're wondering what I'm doing here. Put it simply, we need your help. As you know, being a gold member comes with many perks such as: The name, the avatar size, access to gold-only forums, and the responsibility of being a good poster.
Nearly everybody on FP knows that there's a gold-only forum called the GMF. You also know that it currently enjoys the reputation of basically being the armpit of FP. It has always been rancid and out on prowl to troll users around the forum, normal day for GMF. Problem was it had reached a point where this privilege had been abused, and the system failed to fix it in time.
However, thanks to a number of gold members along with some mod assistance, it was decided enough was enough and a silent but organized effort was made to push out the problem out of GMF. The effort was simple, displace the subforum with new users & have them self-moderate GMF. The attempt partly succeeded, but there are still some issues that need to be fixed.
We’d like every gold to take advantage of GMF, let’s all post there.
We’d like old GMF to become an immediate thing of the past, all 10+ years of it torn down.
We’d love to see all gold members start using GMF and make it their own. If keeping to relaxed posting + snark, that’s perfect.
Never let GMF spiral down into a loop of harassment and personal flaming again. Ever. Users who personally flame/harass and single out users as before, will be banned.
Gold forum rules will finally be taken seriously, as actual rules of the forum.
[B]HOW ON EARTH?! IT’S A SHITHOLE![/B]
This isn’t hard, the forum cancer was already on its way out. Around 20 users were able to topple what was left of GMF a month ago and positive changes happened almost immediately. All this was done to end dumb witch-hunt bullying, and general forum cancer. This is a plea to make Gold Member worth something. Too long has it been passed off as something not worth it, we can make it into a better place.
Come join us in the GMF, make it a subforum of your own. Make use of it.[/QUOTE]
1. Until the "do as I say, not as I do" issues extant in redtext are fixed, you're not going to make much progress. Virtually every rule FP has doesn't apply to redtext. How exactly you expect that to turn into some kind of renaissance wonderland is beyond me.
2. You haven't brought anything to the table that [I]enhances[/I] the FP posting/viewing experience. if GMF was a "specialty forum here", instead of gary deleting everything every six months, you might have a jumping off point. As it stands, GMF is simply OIFY sans [BANNED CONTENT]. So what's the forum incentive to fix it/change it, what do the forums become improved to by doing this?
3. You can't fix hypocrisy. You'll find nary a member in SH that "fights the good fight" and champeens the justices and right thinking and then see the same poster in redtext, pretty much this:
[quote] giant wall of text about the injustices and wrongs and fixing it and doing the right thing and respecting all the choices [/quote]
followed by
[quote] jajaja lelfaggots lel lel niggerfaggothahaha faggz trollololo[/quote]
That's not a forum issue, that's a poster issue, and as long as there's a dichotomy, you're going to have topic and issue friction, and no amount of feelgood feely feels changes someone's posting habits.
4. Pretty vague roadmap. Topical improvement? Post improvement? Thread monitoring and critique? "Make it better" is a sentiment, not a blueprint.
[editline]30th June 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Hugg;48088375]To post about tf2 I would imagine, what do gold members need to post only between themselves?[/QUOTE]
Because ->IN THEORY<- you can have a topic or subject dissension without attendant rustle political/social/topical jimmies shit posting. There are two threads where this actually occurs and bandwagoning actually sometimes does not happen, and people who have a different point of view or simply don't get what all the fuss/hate/love/pr0n is about can safely discuss a topic without getting ramrodded by someone with full on butthurtitis.
In theory.
Sometimes.
You can now fill in "Made a 200 word post" on your Bingo
I fucking hate these douchebags in the GMF making Bingo cards to mock me
*creates a bingo card to mock others*
i fuckin love me some binGO
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;48088934]I fucking hate these douchebags in the GMF making Bingo cards to mock me
*creates a bingo card to mock others*[/QUOTE]
I can check makes a bingo card off my bingo card now
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;48087279]funny thing is
a lot of the guys that did the "silent invasion" turned into the ones that they hated[/QUOTE]
lol
see also:
every rebellion in the history of mankind
No offense, but ever since I joined back in '09 I kept hearing how much of a cesspool GMF is. Hell, at some point I pretty much associated the GMF with a shitposter's training grounds or something.
So far this is the only legitimate effort I see to do something about it. Shouldn't be very hard to achieve, if you look for 'shitposting patterns' over the last 12 months and get rid of the problematic people. Still, it's bound to happen again so I'd say your best bet would be to keep the shitposting to a bare minimum, 'cause erradicating it would be impossible.
Just my blue-colored $0,02.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48089088]No offense, but ever since I joined back in '09 I kept hearing how much of a cesspool GMF is. Hell, at some point I pretty much associated the GMF with a shitposter's training grounds or something.
So far this is the only legitimate effort I see to do something about it. Shouldn't be very hard to achieve, if you look for 'shitposting patterns' over the last 12 months and get rid of the problematic people. Still, it's bound to happen again so I'd say your best bet would be to keep the shitposting to a bare minimum, 'cause erradicating it would be impossible.
Just my blue-colored $0,02.[/QUOTE]
That's because the people who get harassed out of the GMF are the ones who complain about it the loudest in the blue forums.
Also this hasn't been the only effort to try to clean up the Gmf.
The GMF doesn't really have much to offer in the first place.
But I guess it'd be neat to have a little more laid back place to discuss shit at. Can't say I've been there that much during these 9 years tho.
Mr.apple
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;48089102]That's because the people who get harassed out of the GMF are the ones who complain about it the loudest in the blue forums.[/QUOTE]
Was anything ever done about that? Seems to me that's precisely the opposite of the GMF is supposed to stand for. Like I said before, I joined FP in '09 and that's all I kept reading about the GMF around here. I'd say that's a major lack of oversight, letting it run to the ground like that. :/
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;48089102]Also this hasn't been the only effort to try to clean up the Gmf.[/QUOTE]
True that. I've always been on and off FP, so far this is the only thread on GD I see about it.
In my opinion, a stagnated gold userbase will ultimately lead to trolling and assholes.
So how about a way to get new golds? For example, just throwing something out there, if your account is 5+ years old and has 1500 or more posts? That would get the gold flowing and clear up the stream, so to speak.
[QUOTE=matthaios;48089158]In my opinion, a stagnated gold userbase will ultimately lead to trolling and assholes.
So how about a way to get new golds? For example, just throwing something out there, if your account is 5+ years old and has 1500 or more posts? That would get the gold flowing and clear up the stream, so to speak.[/QUOTE]
Best make it a spectacle and have a tournament to decide who gets gold.
[QUOTE=matthaios;48089158]In my opinion, a stagnated gold userbase will ultimately lead to trolling and assholes.
So how about a way to get new golds? For example, just throwing something out there, if your account is 5+ years old and has 1500 or more posts? That would get the gold flowing and clear up the stream, so to speak.[/QUOTE]
But then there's the harrassing issue sloppy_joes mentioned. It'll certainly breathe new life into it, but then you run the risk of the newly gilded people getting 'institutionalized' and turning into shitposters as well.
[QUOTE=matthaios;48089158]In my opinion, a stagnated gold userbase will ultimately lead to trolling and assholes.
So how about a way to get new golds? For example, just throwing something out there, if your account is 5+ years old and has 1500 or more posts? That would get the gold flowing and clear up the stream, so to speak.[/QUOTE]
By just throwing something out there, you mean an idea that'd get you gold? :v:
IMHO there should be a cleanup/idiot cull/whatever you want to call it, and then throw in new people.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48089176] but then you run the risk of the newly gilded people getting 'institutionalized' and turning into shitposters as well.[/QUOTE]
It's a dumb cycle that has continually happened, that's coming down too in this effort.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48089176]But then there's the harrassing issue sloppy_joes mentioned. It'll certainly breathe new life into it, but then you run the risk of the newly gilded people getting 'institutionalized' and turning into shitposters as well.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, to me, GMF seems like it needs slightly looser rules than the normal forums BUT with a overall much higher expected standard of behaviour around the entire site (which is what it kinda was at the beggining.)
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48089141]Was anything ever done about that? Seems to me that's precisely the opposite of the GMF is supposed to stand for. Like I said before, I joined FP in '09 and that's all I kept reading about the GMF around here. I'd say that's a major lack of oversight, letting it run to the ground like that. :/[/QUOTE]
I didn't get access to the GMF until it became an automatic thing you got after a certain number of posts and at that time it wasn't toxic at all, even with the influx of new users. It doesn't seem that toxic now, but it does seem pretty dead.
idk how to fix it, but it definitely needs [i]something[/i] to differentiate it from the other forums.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;48089188]It's a dumb cycle that has continually happened, that's coming down too in this effort.[/QUOTE]
It's like the Reaper shit in Mass Effect.
So GMF has basically turned into FP's version of /r/circlejerk, right?
If that's the case, then maybe it'd be best to redirect them to OIFY or any other subforum *specifically* created for that purpose. I think that'd be a good start.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;48089230]It's like the Reaper shit in Mass Effect.[/QUOTE]
I'm commander Shepard
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48089235]So GMF has basically turned into FP's version of /r/circlejerk, right?
If that's the case, then maybe it'd be best to redirect them to OIFY or any other subforum *specifically* created for that purpose. I think that'd be a good start.[/QUOTE]
r/circlejerk makes fun of reddit trends, you don't see much of that on the GMF
it's more like if you took all of the individual chat threads on facepunch and made a forum out of them
[QUOTE=Zeke129;48089289]r/circlejerk makes fun of reddit trends, you don't see much of that on the GMF
it's more like if you took all of the individual chat threads on facepunch and made a forum out of them[/QUOTE]
The main thread in the gmf is basically just wayt but without as many rules.
[QUOTE=Ehmmett;48089341][img]http://i.imgur.com/ndoLjfo.png[/img][/QUOTE]
That flag is incomplete without a subtle interweave of gold thread depicting the outline of postals ass.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;48089289]r/circlejerk makes fun of reddit trends, you don't see much of that on the GMF
it's more like if you took all of the individual chat threads on facepunch and made a forum out of them[/QUOTE]
So, more or less like /r/circlejerk.
It'd probably be best to redirect all those people to another subforum where they can freely do just that (OIFY).
oify is bad
I support this movement. The old GMF was nice when you could just like call out dumb posts and laugh but it got out of hand when it turned into witchunts and bullying for basically anyone with a different opinion. I don't wanna see that happen again
I'll suck dick for gold.
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