• My Chemical Romance
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[QUOTE=Cypher_09;21410697][img]http://blog.nj.com/entertainment_impact_music/2007/10/medium_gerard.jpg[/img] my father!![/QUOTE] fucked me up the ass?
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;21410697][img]http://blog.nj.com/entertainment_impact_music/2007/10/medium_gerard.jpg[/img] my father!![/QUOTE] Fell down a well?
[QUOTE=bravehat;21365077]"Oh woe is me, I live in a bad area!" I live in glasgow, I have a slight feeling it's worse than in new jersey. I've listened to their music, it sucked dick. James Hetfeild was an alcoholic, and he still made better music than MCR.[/QUOTE] [quote]Way was working as a comic book store clerk in New York City during the September 11, 2001 attacks. Seeing the effects of the attacks first-hand prompted Way to change his views on life in the following weeks.[/quote] oh woe is me, i watched 9/11 happen right in front of me. :downs:
...You say it like you expect me to give a flying fuck. no pun intended :v:
[QUOTE=Meloan;21409678]Anywho, Emotions must have reasons so why do they exist?[/QUOTE] No, emotions don't have a reason. They are your bodies reaction to outside influences. They are chemical impulses. You cannot control or reason with emotion.
[QUOTE=Klownox;21412673]No, emotions don't have a reason. They are your bodies reaction to outside influences. They are chemical impulses. You cannot control or reason with emotion.[/QUOTE] Denial is apparent with you is it not? You can say that all of your logic is your bodies reaction to outside influences; mere chemical impulses. It is the brain after all and chemical or not they still have a reason. You can cover your eyes and ears all you want but that isn't going to get you anywhere. And saying that you cannot control emotions is also in error as many emotions are controlled and held back. Such as when you feel sad and instead give an outward fake emotion that shows the opposite.
[QUOTE=mmstick;21413148]Denial is apparent with you is it not? You can say that all of your logic is your bodies reaction to outside influences; mere chemical impulses. It is the brain after all and chemical or not they still have a reason. You can cover your eyes and ears all you want but that isn't going to get you anywhere. And saying that you cannot control emotions is also in error as many emotions are controlled and held back. Such as when you feel sad and instead give an outward fake emotion that shows the opposite.[/QUOTE] You can't fucking hide emotion. Never heard of reading body language? And even if you can perfectly hide it, you are effectively a closed chemical system, so your feelings are always apparent to yourself, and as such are never hidden. Don't try and be a smart arse cause i'l fuck you over boy. Just cause you feel something doesn't mean it has to be expressed.
[QUOTE=mmstick;21413148]Denial is apparent with you is it not? You can say that all of your logic is your bodies reaction to outside influences; mere chemical impulses. It is the brain after all and chemical or not they still have a reason. You can cover your eyes and ears all you want but that isn't going to get you anywhere. And saying that you cannot control emotions is also in error as many emotions are controlled and held back. Such as when you feel sad and instead give an outward fake emotion that shows the opposite.[/QUOTE] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion]Do some reading.[/url]
[QUOTE=Klownox;21413254][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion]Do some reading.[/url][/QUOTE] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic"]Do some reading[/url] Actually, if you had the ability to read both of those pages and understand the meaning behind them you would be red in the face, or more perhaps you already are red in the face of embarrassment over your logical fallacies and blunders. But trying to cover them up is only digging you a larger hole.
I was going to post about how I liked their first two albums until they completely screwed the pooch, but I noticed this thread has become a complex argument about the nature of emotion, so I'll just sit back
[QUOTE=mmstick;21413452][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic"]Do some reading[/url][/QUOTE] I linked you to emotion because you were talking out of your ass. You link me to logic with no actual basis behind that. Logic has nothing to do with emotion. Emotion is involuntary. Try as you might to hide or mask your emotions they will always show through via the most trivial tics and reactions. If you're so fucked up that you are able to absolutely show no emotion you may want to talk to a Psychiatrist.
[QUOTE=mmstick;21413452][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic"]Do some reading[/url] Actually, if you had the ability to read both of those pages and understand the meaning behind them you would be red in the face, or more perhaps you already are red in the face of embarrassment over your logical fallacies and blunders. But trying to cover them up is only digging you a larger hole.[/QUOTE] Would one like to explain. I can't be fucked reading those pages to be brutally honest so give me a TL;DR
[QUOTE=bravehat;21414044]Would one like to explain. I can't be fucked reading those pages to be brutally honest so give me a TL;DR[/QUOTE] He's talking out of his ass. It doesn't once mention emotion on the page for logic. Nor does it once mention logic on the page for emotion. I think he just grabbed the page and linked to it, to give a witty response.
Philosophical and psychological de-railment... though I have to say I find this more interesting than talking about MCR.
^ Nice username.
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;21421777]^ Nice username.[/QUOTE] Why thank you =P
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[QUOTE=Klownox;21414380]He's talking out of his ass. It doesn't once mention emotion on the page for logic. Nor does it once mention logic on the page for emotion. I think he just grabbed the page and linked to it, to give a witty response.[/QUOTE] More like you guys are talking straight out of your butts. You get proven wrong and you cry like little babies and try to get back at me to cover your honor just like all the other trolls. If you can't understand emotions then that is too bad for you, it's impossible for you to begin with. You may think you know what you are talking about but you are far behind in times. As for the other braveheart. What do you think of computers? Are they logical? They reason do they not? Computers are no different than our brain and its chemical reactions. It's entirely possible to create human intelligence in a computer as is being done with neural systems. Although supercomputers today are not powerful enough to simulate the human mind they will soon be able to do so. This is also leading towards humanoid androids with human intelligence. After mapping the brain you could remove emotions if you wanted to, or add new ones and modify existing ones. There are no limitations to what can be done as nothing is impossible. You can say that it is impossible for an artificial intelligence to have real thought but who are you to decide that. We could easily be artificial intelligences ourselves. It is all a matter of perspectives and if you cannot get out of your little comfortable box then you have no reason to be discussing these things.
[QUOTE=mmstick;21424171]More like you guys are talking straight out of your butts. You get proven wrong and you cry like little babies and try to get back at me to cover your honor just like all the other trolls. If you can't understand emotions then that is too bad for you, it's impossible for you to begin with. You may think you know what you are talking about but you are far behind in times. As for the other braveheart. What do you think of computers? [b]Are they logical? They reason do they not? [/b]Computers are no different than our brain and its chemical reactions. It's entirely possible to create human intelligence in a computer as is being done with neural systems. Although supercomputers today are not powerful enough to simulate the human mind they will soon be able to do so. This is also leading towards humanoid androids with human intelligence. After mapping the brain you could remove emotions if you wanted to, or add new ones and modify existing ones. There are no limitations to what can be done as nothing is impossible. You can say that it is impossible for an artificial intelligence to have real thought but who are you to decide that. We could easily be artificial intelligences ourselves. It is all a matter of perspectives and if you cannot get out of your little comfortable box then you have no reason to be discussing these things.[/QUOTE] Artificial Intelligence =/= Emotion you dipstick. They don't reason per say, they take known laws and extrapolate. Tell me, how do emotions work, why do we fall in love with certain people but not others who may be better suited for us. Emotion has no logic, no particular reason. And you lost all credibility in my eyes, as soon as you failed to read my fucking name correctly. And you say we live in our comfortable little boxes, implying you are the most open minded person ever to have lived, get your head out your ass, it smells like shit in there and the sun's shining out here.
[QUOTE=King_of_Town;21409593]I used to like them but omg then i started listening to real music like black nordic thrash metal and stanist speedcore metal[/QUOTE] I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a parody post lol
I love My Chemical Romance. I don't have favourite bands, but I've loved them since I first heard them when I was 10. [url=http://www.last.fm/user/IbutsuHimitsu/library]As you can see[/url], I still do. It really pisses me off how they've become known as 'emo' when they're so far from it. Really looking forward to their next album since it's meant to be less theatrical and more like their original. Some of my favourite songs are: [list] [*][url=http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Vampires+Will+Never+Hurt+You/VZXyR]Vampires Will Never Hurt You[/url] - Just felt so unique and new to me. [*][url=http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Demolition+Lovers/1NMoY9]Demolition Lovers[/url] - Puts into words what I can't about my best friend. [*][url=http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/It+s+Not+a+Fashion+Statement+It+s+a+Deathwish/1QRtxN]It's Not A Fashion Statement, It's A Fucking Death Wish[/url] - Not sure why, I just really liked it. [*][url=http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Desert+Song/2zjarM]Desert Song[/url] - Again, it just felt new and different. I like different. [*][url=http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Heaven+Help+Us/2nvLIL]Heaven Help Us[/url] - Love the chorus. [/list] I love music for the lyrics, MCR is one band that's very much loved for that reason.
[QUOTE=bravehat;21424558]Artificial Intelligence =/= Emotion you dipstick. They don't reason per say, they take known laws and extrapolate. Tell me, how do emotions work, why do we fall in love with certain people but not others who may be better suited for us. Emotion has no logic, no particular reason. And you lost all credibility in my eyes, as soon as you failed to read my fucking name correctly. And you say we live in our comfortable little boxes, implying you are the most open minded person ever to have lived, get your head out your ass, it smells like shit in there and the sun's shining out here.[/QUOTE] This, so much this.
Your ignorance and feeble-mindedness is so very disappointing. You know very little about Strong AI and the human brain. The ultimate goal of AI is to create Strong AI; in order to do so scientists have turned to simulating the entire brain in a computer. The brain itself is very much a powerful processor. And emotions are part of our brains, and therefore can be simulated in AI. And the simulations are ever so much as real as the the real thing. If emotions had no reason or logic then they would of never formed in our DNA. Removing them would be like devolving to a lesser state. If you can't understand anything as simple as that, which all children understand, then that is a result of ignorance. Don't take arguments on something that you do not understand, you are still making a fool of yourself. The only one here implying that I am the most open-minded person to ever live is you. It is impossible to be completely open-minded although all science and research should be taken with an open mind.
Holy crap, I've never seen a thread being derailed this far!
[QUOTE=mynames2long;21431030]Holy crap, I've never seen a thread being derailed this far![/QUOTE] I'm not sure derailed even describes it =/
[QUOTE=Ibutsu;21429551]I love My Chemical Romance. I don't have favourite bands, but I've loved them since I first heard them when I was 10. [url=http://www.last.fm/user/IbutsuHimitsu/library]As you can see[/url], I still do. It really pisses me off how they've become known as 'emo' when they're so far from it. Really looking forward to their next album since it's meant to be less theatrical and more like their original. Some of my favourite songs are: [list] [*][url=http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Vampires+Will+Never+Hurt+You/VZXyR]Vampires Will Never Hurt You[/url] - Just felt so unique and new to me. [*][url=http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Demolition+Lovers/1NMoY9]Demolition Lovers[/url] - Puts into words what I can't about my best friend. [*][url=http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/It+s+Not+a+Fashion+Statement+It+s+a+Deathwish/1QRtxN]It's Not A Fashion Statement, It's A Fucking Death Wish[/url] - Not sure why, I just really liked it. [*][url=http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Desert+Song/2zjarM]Desert Song[/url] - Again, it just felt new and different. I like different. [*][url=http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Heaven+Help+Us/2nvLIL]Heaven Help Us[/url] - Love the chorus. [/list] I love music for the lyrics, MCR is one band that's very much loved for that reason.[/QUOTE] Beautiful Post. Thank you. We need more people like this. Definitely agree with liking things that are different. They're a different band. I've been looking up what all the songs mean to them, and just their meaning. I'm thinking that it tells two stories. Of the entire bands expiriences, and the story of how the patient feels about dying.
[QUOTE=mmstick;21430721]Your ignorance and feeble-mindedness is so very disappointing. You know very little about Strong AI and the human brain. The ultimate goal of AI is to create Strong AI; in order to do so scientists have turned to simulating the entire brain in a computer. The brain itself is very much a powerful processor. And emotions are part of our brains, and therefore can be simulated in AI. And the simulations are ever so much as real as the the real thing. If emotions had no reason or logic then they would of never formed in our DNA. Removing them would be like devolving to a lesser state. If you can't understand anything as simple as that, which all children understand, then that is a result of ignorance. Don't take arguments on something that you do not understand, you are still making a fool of yourself. The only one here implying that I am the most open-minded person to ever live is you. It is impossible to be completely open-minded although all science and research should be taken with an open mind.[/QUOTE] Oh emotions have evolutionary purpose. That's not logic though. Explain to me how love works. If you can do it I'll praise you as a god. Oh and your asshattery is astounding me.
I couldn't give you an explanation on how love works and what would that prove anyway? And I have already given you the explanation on why emotions have logic. Logic consists of inductive and deductive reasoning. See previous post. Edit: loltrolls like to change subjects when they have been defeated.
[QUOTE=Meloan;21431093]Beautiful Post. Thank you.[/QUOTE] You're very welcome. :smile:
[QUOTE=mmstick;21431514]I couldn't give you an explanation on how love works and what would that prove anyway? And I have already given you the explanation on why emotions have logic. Logic consists of inductive and deductive reasoning. See previous post.[/QUOTE] That would provethat emotions have logic and reasoning. Well if they have logic it must be known as a fundamental basic of being a human. :v: come on and show me emotional logic.
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