Low boost setup with the compression ratio down, so you can keep the internals stock.
Superchargers are usually allot more expensive than turbos but you dont get the lag but you could just have a super charger with a turbo if you had the money. a supercharger can run you up to 3-4 grand and more depending on where you get it and for what engine whereas a turbo will only run you a couple hundred instead of a couple thousand. and i dont have a opinion on Nos as ive never used it.
Call me boring, but i'd say an engine that doesn't need any of that to have sufficient power is the best. Simply because turbocharging and all the other applications listed always increase the wear on the engine. So yeah i'd rather have a big engine with big power or a small one with little power than anything poweful that is charged in any way. At least these will last for a while.
Ironically this comes from someone driving a 54hp 1.1Liter.
[QUOTE=Supersayinlink;32790610]Superchargers are usually allot more expensive than turbos but you dont get the lag but you could just have a super charger with a turbo if you had the money. a supercharger can run you up to 3-4 grand and more depending on where you get it and for what engine whereas a turbo will only run you a couple hundred instead of a couple thousand. and i dont have a opinion on Nos as ive never used it.[/QUOTE]
Don't classify superchargers as just Roots type and twin screw. Centrifigual superchargers normally don't start to build boost untill 2,000 - 3000 rpm, I could have a turbo at full boost by then. Even then,
the centrifugal only will be at 1 or 2 psi there.
[QUOTE=Milp;32792089]Call me boring, but i'd say an engine that doesn't need any of that to have sufficient power is the best. Simply because turbocharging and all the other applications listed always increase the wear on the engine. So yeah i'd rather have a big engine with big power or a small one with little power than anything poweful that is charged in any way. At least these will last for a while.
Ironically this comes from someone driving a 54hp 1.1Liter.[/QUOTE]
Quite a few turbocharged engines from the factory are replacing their higher engines. Fords ECOBOOST (single turbo in i4,and i'3's. Dual turbo in v6's) is replacing some V8's, while Hyundai/Kia uses a 2.0t to replace V6's.
But they're doing it for fuel economy, not aftermarket performance and horsepower gains. (Well technically they are, pulling more HP out of a smaller engine but the result is improved gas mileage without loss of performance so)
[editline]15th October 2011[/editline]
I'll take a V6 with aftermarket twin turbo's over a fuckin ecoboost v6 any day
depends on what you want
turbo tacoma v6
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trd supercharged tacoma
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i perfer small turbo that reaches full boost by 2k-2.5k rpm.
I love turbos. Gotta love the sound of a good turbocharged engine. :)
[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;32793231]Quite a few turbocharged engines from the factory are replacing their higher engines. Fords ECOBOOST (single turbo in i4,and i'3's. Dual turbo in v6's) is replacing some V8's, while Hyundai/Kia uses a 2.0t to replace V6's.[/QUOTE]
Yes, they are all doing downsizing, and that may improve mileage and all that, but i think in the long run it will be bad. I bet all these new super downsized engines will have extreme problems 15 years from now because they'll probably have a hard time surviving more than 150k kilometers.
Of course that is what manufacturers want.
The yellow teapot
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vs3F4zFp5c[/media]
[sp]IIRC the squealing is the brakes[/sp]
aka I like turbo
[QUOTE=Milp;32797033]Yes, they are all doing downsizing, and that may improve mileage and all that, but i think in the long run it will be bad. I bet all these new super downsized engines will have extreme problems 15 years from now because they'll probably have a hard time surviving more than 150k kilometers.
Of course that is what manufacturers want.[/QUOTE]
Most people here don't keep their car for 15 years though.
Average is around 5 to 6 years apparently.
[QUOTE=justin1992;32796026]But they're doing it for fuel economy, not aftermarket performance and horsepower gains. (Well technically they are, pulling more HP out of a smaller engine but the result is improved gas mileage without loss of performance so)
[editline]15th October 2011[/editline]
I'll take a V6 with aftermarket twin turbo's over a fuckin ecoboost v6 any day[/QUOTE]
I'd wait until my warranty runs out before adding any turbos. One thing about factory is that anything that happens is covered (until it runs out).
average car age here is 10.5
Most cars that I see in this state are within brand new to five years old.
Camry's all over the place.
There's a black Lancer Evo 8 or 9 driving around where i live lately, the turbo on that thing sounds so awesome
VTEC is for pussy bitch-ass ricer faggots.
Notec represent :>
Took this, this afternoon at Turner drift. Superchargers > All
[video=youtube;n7lcV-QP8CY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7lcV-QP8CY[/video]
Turbo and propane injection all day long baby.
I've always felt that turbos and superchargers are kinda like cheating. Like your engine should be able to produce power by itself.
thats like saying you should be born smart
[editline]18th October 2011[/editline]
the only one i would consider cheating would be nitrous
"yeah i have 600hp. What, you wanna race? Can't, need to fill my nitrous bottle, i only have 400hp right now"
I will agree that Normal aspiration is the best by far.
Perfect example.
At the end that was probably the 200th time those guys behind us said he has no power steering....
[video=youtube;-JVWg0mdaug]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JVWg0mdaug&feature=player_embedded[/video]
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;32846658]I've always felt that turbos and superchargers are kinda like cheating. Like your engine should be able to produce power by itself.[/QUOTE]
>Power steering is cheating. Your car should be able to make it easy to steer by itself.
>DOHC is cheating. Your car should be able to make enough power with OHV.
>AWD is cheating. Your car should be able to offroad with 2WD.
[QUOTE=Super_Noodle;32848260]
>AWD is cheating. Your car should be able to offroad with 2WD.[/QUOTE]
What?
That's just making all the wheels turn with the gearbox and not cheating with some servo or whatever.
In this subject it would be more correct to say putting tank threads on your car is cheating because it should offroad fine with just wheels
I just view it as sort of like steriods.
But steroids make your balls fall off. If turbos and things make truck-balls fall off, I'm all for that.
whats wrong with steroids
if I could swap my body once it blew up i'd do em too
I did ask for this
Super, I don't think a pontiac 455 deserves to have that wine of a turbo disgracing its death rumble.
Bottles are for babies, turbos are for diesels, superchargers are for trains.
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