Nah, I don't like the concept. It's scarier when it stays unknown. The Thing did it with humans. Alien needs to stay Alien
Never seen them. Hope to see them soon though. Before the newest one comes out I hope.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22120914]Maybe the fact that your reaction to any sort of strange content is to make it seem even more ridiculous and laugh at it shows a problem with you and not the content itself.
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What are you talking about? If alien was about "Michael Myers from space" I would completely hate that movie. If that means I'm retarded then so be it.
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Also, I like how you call the alien an intelligent alien killer and then include those attributes on your list of why "my alien" is retarded.
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Your alien is some kind of super-creature which has sole purpouse to kill people. It's stupid. Like I said earlier: "Halloween in space".
I like the idea that aliens resemble intelligent ant colony. For me it's scarier than some magic creature from hell.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;22121806]1.Okay, you do that. It's quite obvious that you can't cater to, or understand, potentially higher concepts than MONSTER CHASES HUMAN.
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Oh I can't understand the concept of "magic monster chases human"?
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2. Yeah, that's a recipe for shitty dime-a-dozen horror. The greatest horror movies have always been built off psychological themes.
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You guys want Alien to be a "Halloween in space" not me.
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3. You're an idiot. In the context of the crew of the Nostromo, it was, for all intents and purposes, invincible. They had nothing that could kill it.[/QUOTE]
1 Scorpio wasn't talking only in context of Nostromo's crew.
2 I was talking about Scorpio's misconception of sci-fi. Your answer has hardly anything to do with what I've said.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;22122382]Nah, I don't like the concept. It's scarier when it stays unknown. The Thing did it with humans. Alien needs to stay Alien[/QUOTE]
I agree with this
Alien 1 was really good because you hardly ever saw the Alien. You caught glimpses, and so it in the dark, but never actually saw it all until near the end. Which added to the horror factor.
Aliens was really not very scary AT ALL because all it was was really just shooting the fuck out of hordes of aliens.
anyway 1 and 4 are the best imo. not really sure which I prefer out of the two though.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;22123486] 1 and 4 are the best imo. not really sure which I prefer out of the two though.[/QUOTE]
How can you even compare 1 to 4 ?
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;22123463]What are you talking about? If alien was about "Michael Myers from space" I would completely hate that movie. If that means I'm retarded then so be it.
Your alien is some kind of super-creature which has sole purpouse to kill people. It's stupid. Like I said earlier: "Halloween in space".
I like the idea that aliens resemble intelligent ant colony. For me it's scarier than some magic creature from hell.
Oh I can't understand the concept of "magic monster chases human"?
You guys want Alien to be a "Halloween in space" not me.
1 Scorpio wasn't talking only in context of Nostromo's crew.
2 I was talking about Scorpio's misconception of sci-fi. Your answer has hardly anything to do with what I've said.[/QUOTE]
Well if you want to be technical the basic idea was, in Ridley Scott's words, "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre in space".
Really, I'm kind of confused as to waht your getting at. You're the only one saying the Alien is "magic" and "super". It seems like you're just putting words in my mouth to discredit what I'm saying. Even so, I'm not sure what "super" constitutes.
No, you can't understand that that's not at all what I'm saying. You can't think beyond that very, very basic level. That is why you fail.
No, we don't. Though Halloween did have similar themes, if you just look at the first movie. The rest of the series is weird pagan nonsense.
What the fuck, yes I was. I specifically said that. You just seem to have chosen not to read that part of every one of my posts because it seems some part of your psyche is dependent on your image of the Alien being true, and your mind is automatically blocking out information to uphold that image.
And I just pulled up numerous examples from some of the greatest examples of science fiction ever written, showing that it doesn't have to make complete sense. Did the Multivac make sense? I mean it's a computer powerful enough to restart existence. Why would it even want to restart exstence? OMG s00o4ar ghey magik cuntputer is ghey!
You know, I think it's kind of funny that you're trying to rationalize the Alien into being something other than a hand with a vagina, or a skeleton with a big penis for a head. Because, that is [I]exactly[/I] what it is, no matter what version you're talking about.
Hand with a vagina. Skeleton with a big penis for a head.
I'm sorry my argument is invalid. :eng99:
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;22130108]Hand with a vagina. Skeleton with a big penis for a head.
I'm sorry my argument is invalid. :eng99:[/QUOTE]
Yes. Yes it is.
[img]http://www.myfreewallpapers.net/artistic/wallpapers/giger-necronom-iv.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;22124257]How can you even compare 1 to 4 ?[/QUOTE]
I've noticed a lot of people don't really like it but I thought it was very good.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22130636]Yes. Yes it is.
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It is
That's what they intended for it to be. Although they watered it down for the final product.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;22131061]I've noticed a lot of people don't really like it but I thought it was very good.
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It is
That's what they intended for it to be. Although they watered it down for the final product.[/QUOTE]
No, that painting is Necronom IV. That's what the Alien is based off of, if course the final product was much more, shall we say, tame. Mainly because that isn't very scary, though the symbolism remains.
And Alien 4 was shit. The acting was shit, the writing was shit, the effects were shit, it was just one big pile of shit.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22131503]No, that painting is Necronom IV. That's what the Alien is based off of, if course the final product was much more, shall we say, tame. Mainly because that isn't very scary, though the symbolism remains.
And Alien 4 was shit. The acting was shit, the writing was shit, the effects were shit, it was just one big pile of shit.[/QUOTE]
I've not watched any of the films in years anyway so maybe that's why, I dunno.
It ends with Aliens. Period.
[QUOTE=BmB;22152517]It ends with Aliens. Period.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I mean really, wasn't what made alien 3 possible the assumption that the queen had laid an egg on their escape vehicle after LV-246 or whatever exploded? But hadn't Ripley blown off the Queen's egg laying tube part thingy with a fucking grenade launcher? So then how could it have laid an egg on the ship?
Unless I've missed something here, that means Alien 3 had to do a retcon to even make itself possible, and retcons annoy me. fyi that's when a sequel re-writes the movie it's a sequel to in order to make itself possible.
Alien 3 Assembly/directors cut
Shit is kickin rad
[QUOTE=postal;22171100]Yeah I mean really, wasn't what made alien 3 possible the assumption that the queen had laid an egg on their escape vehicle after LV-246 or whatever exploded? But hadn't Ripley blown off the Queen's egg laying tube part thingy with a fucking grenade launcher? So then how could it have laid an egg on the ship?
Unless I've missed something here, that means Alien 3 had to do a retcon to even make itself possible, and retcons annoy me. fyi that's when a sequel re-writes the movie it's a sequel to in order to make itself possible.[/QUOTE]
isnt the idea that a facehugger boarded the ship, not that the egg was laid on it?
The very second shot in the whole film is of an egg that yes, couldn't have been laid there. I watched them one after the other so the events of Aliens was clear in my mind, I don't think the Queen ever came near the pod they used at all. They also completely botch the lifecycle thing, chestbursters were shown to come out after a simple matter of hours after waking up. Ripley prances around acting not-like-Ripley-at-all for what? A week or something without adverse effects.
Facehuggers can't live that long out of the egg, this is all very confusing for me.
[QUOTE=BmB;22179440]The very second shot in the whole film is of an egg that yes, couldn't have been laid there. I watched them one after the other so the events of Aliens was clear in my mind, I don't think the Queen ever came near the pod they used at all.[/QUOTE]
was it? i watched the assembly cut last week and I don't remember seeing an egg. facehugger yeah, but don't recall an egg
I think the only versions of the films I watched were the alternate cuts really, and there absolutely was an egg attached to a wall or something. I distinctly remember thinking "whoah, it's exactly the same shot Aliens ended on but with a different colour, this could be a pretty nice movie after all- wait, how did that egg get there?! There's no way that could have happened!"
I think it done just so they could make a sequel, it just does not make sense how that thing got into the EEV.
Aliens 3 was such bullshit. Seriously, when they said "Hicks and Newt are dead sry" I could almost literally hear them saying "Yeah, we kind of couldn't get them, because Newt grew up and Hicks told us to fuck ourselves. So I suppose we just have Ripley. Ehh."
Shit was worse than Star Trek: Generations.
yeah man, I fucking loved hicks... He's awesome
Somebody wake up Hicks
[QUOTE=Rusty100;22177850]isnt the idea that a facehugger boarded the ship, not that the egg was laid on it?[/QUOTE]
it was a facehugger that hatched from an egg MYSTERIOUSLY laid in the ship by the queen. so yeah, fuck alien 3. Aliens was the ending.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22179872]Aliens 3 was such bullshit. Seriously, when they said "Hicks and Newt are dead sry" I could almost literally hear them saying "Yeah, we kind of couldn't get them, because Newt grew up and Hicks told us to fuck ourselves. So I suppose we just have Ripley. Ehh."[/QUOTE]
yeah really
I enjoyed 3, wasn't too big a fan of resurrection though.
Still, Alien and Aliens were far superior, two of the best movie's I have seen.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22179872]Aliens 3 was such bullshit. Seriously, when they said "Hicks and Newt are dead sry" I could almost literally hear them saying "Yeah, we kind of couldn't get them, because Newt grew up and Hicks told us to fuck ourselves. So I suppose we just have Ripley. Ehh."
Shit was worse than Star Trek: Generations.[/QUOTE]
DEY KILLD HIX N NOOT
seriously why do so many people care about that screechy annoying brat?
[QUOTE=Agent.Orange;22186514]DEY KILLD HIX N NOOT
seriously why do so many people care about that screechy annoying brat?[/QUOTE]
Because the whole point of Aliens was connecting Ripley to Newt, so killing Newt makes no sense because it would turn Ripley into a jibbering emotional wreck. Same thing with Hicks.
Yet she just shrugs it off like "eh, whatever".
[QUOTE=Agent.Orange;22186514]DEY KILLD HIX N NOOT
seriously why do so many people care about that screechy annoying brat?[/QUOTE]
Dude, just no
Cmon man, Newt.
She's like ripely's daughter, well the one that didn't die lol
Have some fucking compassion
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22186639]Because the whole point of Aliens was connecting Ripley to Newt, so killing Newt makes no sense because it would turn Ripley into a jibbering emotional wreck. Same thing with Hicks.
Yet she just shrugs it off like "eh, whatever".[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's another big problem, why doesn't she tell them about the Aliens? She doesn't act like any Ripley I know. She has shown time and time again she was ready to abandon protocol and secrecy to preserve her integrity and do what was needed to survive. She could have gotten a much better deal in the beginning of Aliens if she had kept her damn mouth shut but she chose to forego that for the integrity of telling the truth.
It's just a big commercial slap in the face to the first two films.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22186639]Because the whole point of Aliens was connecting Ripley to Newt, so killing Newt makes no sense because it would turn Ripley into a jibbering emotional wreck. Same thing with Hicks.
Yet she just shrugs it off like "eh, whatever".[/QUOTE]
Killing Hicks and Newt in 3 was a stupid thing to do. How the hell can Ripley survive for more than 2 movies while everybody else dies?
And I never got how the 2 survivors other than Ripley died in 1. The guy with the flamer had a clean line of fire, even if he had to kill the woman, he would survive. Survival instincts overpower emotion. He would have pressed that trigger without a second thought.
About the emotional thing, maybe its the Queen inside her? I mean, a parasitic organism like that is the recipe for hormone-fucking-up to the host.
Personally, I think that Alien>Aliens>Alien:RE>Alien 3
Alien 3 sucked. And they messed up Resurrection with the hybrid shit.
[QUOTE=BmB;22179490]I think the only versions of the films I watched were the alternate cuts really, and there absolutely was an egg attached to a wall or something. I distinctly remember thinking "whoah, it's exactly the same shot Aliens ended on but with a different colour, this could be a pretty nice movie after all- wait, how did that egg get there?! There's no way that could have happened!"[/QUOTE]
I have da solutionz! Don't we see Bishop return with the Landing Craft to pick up Ripley and Newt? Couldn't he have gonne to the Derelict and picked up an egg for research? Hicks was unconscious, couldn't he have drugged him? And he didn't have time to secure the egg on the ship, as he got assraped by the Queen. So the facehugger hatched in the Landing Craft and made its way to the Stasis room.
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