Automotive Addicts Lounge V2- Why we are all broke:
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[QUOTE=Lerlth;47699791]For the 89 Daytona it had a few options. Normally these will have a 2.2L or a 2.5L, and maybe have a turbo package (T1, TII, TIII). The 1990-1993 had a 3.0L Mitsubishi engine. From 1984-1989 they all shared the same motor mounts. While the 1989.5-1993 used the larger motor mounts seen today. I believe my Daytona has the smaller kind, so I'll be swapping motor mounts.
The power ratings are normally so for this car:
2.5 N/A: 100HP & 140ft/lbs
2.5 Turbo: 150HP & 170ft/lbs
For the 90:
2.5 Turbo II: 174HP
3.0 Mits: ~160HP
There was also a 24v 2.2L Turbo III motor which made 220HP (the same as a 318 small block V8).
The donor van is a 1998 Dodge Caravan Sport with a 3.8L.
It makes 180HP and 240ft/lbs. I just love torque.[/QUOTE]
Is it gonna fit?
Alternatively, why not get a 6L diesel v8 from a truck at a scrapyard and do that? I think that'd be a lot more fun.
[QUOTE=DPKiller;47699899]I fixzxed my phodo's. She so purdy.
I have to do final fitment stuff tomorrow. The headlights are pointed WAAAAY to high with no adjustment and the air thingy on the bottom wont allow the grill to go all the way back.
The issues you run into trying to retrofit shit into old shit.[/QUOTE]
looks great
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47699901]Is it gonna fit?
Alternatively, why not get a 6L diesel v8 from a truck at a scrapyard and do that? I think that'd be a lot more fun.[/QUOTE]
[quote]Is it gonna fit?[/quote]
[quote] 6L diesel v8[/quote]
Uhh. And yes it'll fit. The 3.0L Mitsubishi is actually bigger than the 3.3/3.8.
[QUOTE=Lerlth;47699984]Uhh. And yes it'll fit. The 3.0L Mitsubishi is actually bigger than the 3.3/3.8.[/QUOTE]
You're no fun
[QUOTE=slayer3032;47694698]I don't think his radiator is factory vintage parts, even if it is I have no idea why anyone would want it unless it was for a all original car and it was in literal brand new shape. I'm positive that he could get all new quality parts and clamps for his turbo setup, to catch cans, hoses, oil coolers, intercoolers and heat wrap. Mishimoto makes parts like all of those and not a whole lot more. None of these come stock on any car and if they do you're replacing it with custom parts.
I'm not personally a fan of their thermostats and fan switches, they try to market all of their parts as better than OEM and what not when those two in particular can cause some havoc with a stock ECU and in general not run very well as intended unless you specifically need those parts in a very modified application.
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I put a larger than stock cat into my Civic. I don't think anyone has ever done that. :v:[/QUOTE]
Exactly right. Any stock part I took off my car was garbage to begin with. The only reason the radiator was taken off is because it was clogged, rotted and leaking, otherwise it would still be there. Theres zero point feeling guolty about it. No one wants these parts. They rip the engine and put something else in. Every single stock part for this motor, minus the intake can likely be had for $20 anywhere. Everything I do is an improvement in my eyes and I live in an appartment so o cant store this stuff. It either gets sold or sits around for sale or free so long it gets trashed. These cara came with super basic cooling systems that did little more than work. I dont need a racing thermostat, but I did see them.what id get from them is basically, intercooler, radiator, silicone couplers, oil cooler, baffled oil catch can, coolant reservoir overflow, t clamps, hump hose, vacuum line, flexible radiator ducting, seperate transmission cooler possibly, and a few other things. They are a mostly dedicated cooling company and theyre alowly branching a few other things. I saw that yhey sell intakes and stuff now too.
[QUOTE=Lerlth;47699984]Uhh. And yes it'll fit. The 3.0L Mitsubishi is actually bigger than the 3.3/3.8.[/QUOTE]
But a 6.0L Cummins would sound and work so much better.
[QUOTE=Jackpody;47695461]Aaaa mofucking yiss, the W108 lives again. Ever heard of this before? Defective plug from the factory. They were even nice Bosch plugs. Put in some NGK BP6ES and now it runs better than ever. Glad it was that easy to solve.
Here's a picture of the old plugs, I should probably figure out why it's running rich.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/THLgILI.jpg[/t]
(The dirt is just from us laying them on the ground, they're trash anyway). Granted, I did start it like 4-6 times cold when I was trying to diagnose the 5 cylinder issue.[/QUOTE]
Bosch(replacement) parts are shit, their o2 sensors do not work in Hondas, their spark plugs really aren't that great with cheap NGK/Denso units always perform better and their super expensive spark plug wires fall apart after 20k miles when you go to change the plugs. Unless it's called for as an OEM part like an o2 sensor I would never think of using them period. NGK makes the best product for the best price almost always.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;47696432]I figure the radiator isn't the only factory part that's been replaced (if it was factory to begin with). Personally I intend to keep the original parts for whatever car I end up with in storage, if there are any. I dunno if that's "weird" but I figure it would improve the value of the car in the future, plus it gives me a supply of fallback parts if anything aftermarket fails.[/QUOTE]
Well I wouldn't throw away perfectly good parts but I wouldn't save them because it's old or something. I horde spare parts usually, I usually throw away literal garbage so I don't collect too much but keeping them to sell them with the car or something seems super silly unless you keep them so you can keep your aftermarket parts to sell/part out/ect.
[QUOTE=Stiveno;47695492]Any of you guys good at paint stuff? I have oem style plastic sideskirts that need to get painted, and Fiberglass rear bumper pieces that also need to get painted. I was wondering what grit I should sand with before spraying them.[/QUOTE]
If you have poly lips or other plastic type material like a bumper you absolutely need to have flex additive added to it. If it ever gets bumped, scraped or disformed the paint won't crack and flake off like it will without it. That's why you see really shitty body kits and cheap lips with the paint all falling off and what not.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;47700094]Bosch(replacement) parts are shit, their o2 sensors do not work in Hondas, their spark plugs really aren't that great with cheap NGK/Denso units always perform better and their super expensive spark plug wires fall apart after 20k miles when you go to change the plugs. Unless it's called for as an OEM part like an o2 sensor I would never think of using them period. NGK makes the best product for the best price almost always.
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wat
I've only EVER heard good things about Bosch parts. Everyone I know that works with cars recommends them. What's wrong with 'em?
[QUOTE=mastoner20;47700069]But a 6.0L Cummins would sound and work so much better.[/QUOTE]
My idea for the next project is a 4BT 95 Dakota. But that'd be hilarious to see. A cummins powered sports car. Haha. There is this though. The truck version of the Daytona (Dodge Rampage) has been swapped with a VW diesel.
[video=youtube;1NYikOly9S0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NYikOly9S0[/video]
That 1.5L makes more torque than this 3.8L.
That's an incredible amount of power from something so small.
Prime example of why I will always love diesel engines.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47700137]wat
I've only EVER heard good things about Bosch parts. Everyone I know that works with cars recommends them. What's wrong with 'em?[/QUOTE]
They suck royal ass. When Nippon-Denso became Denso in the 90s, and NGK went global, and the LS400 came out, a build to a price crisis started with the Germans. Bosch looked for ways to reduce costs after being pressured by manufacturers like Daimler and Volkswagen AG.
Bosch is fine for a low compression mid 2000s Ford whatever, but not for any Mercedes or VW at this point unless absolutely necessary.
[QUOTE=Slithers;47700409]They suck royal ass. When Nippon-Denso became Denso in the 90s, and NGK went global, and the LS400 came out, a build to a price crisis started with the Germans. Bosch looked for ways to reduce costs after being pressured by manufacturers like Daimler and Volkswagen AG.
Bosch is fine for a low compression mid 2000s Ford whatever, but not for any Mercedes or VW at this point unless absolutely necessary.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what's in my Ford ATM. The last Bosch part I bought was an oil filter for my odyssey.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47700421]I don't know what's in my Ford ATM. The last Bosch part I bought was an oil filter for my odyssey.[/QUOTE]
Those filters fall apart, make sure you replace at next oil change if you still own it.
[QUOTE=Slithers;47700427]Those filters fall apart, make sure you replace at next oil change if you still own it.[/QUOTE]
Dont you typically replace the filter every oil change?
[QUOTE=Slithers;47700427]Those filters fall apart, make sure you replace at next oil change if you still own it.[/QUOTE]
I don't. I traded it in. Do you have a recommendation for a better brand of oil filter?
[QUOTE=JesseR92;47700441]Dont you typically replace the filter every oil change?[/QUOTE]
To my knowledge, you're SUPPOSED to but that doesn't always mean you do
[QUOTE=mastoner20;47700069]But a 6.0L Cummins would sound and work so much better.[/QUOTE]
>6 leaker
>cummins
Bro you sure you can call yourself a dodge man?
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Also, how many "veteran" members are here, like, since pretty well the begining? I remember v3 is when I started posting here. Been through a lot of members here.
Just came to mind when I seen that daytona and I was gonna mention bradley being a pro and it became apparant how many people here even know bradley?
[QUOTE=Valon Kyre;47700479]>6 leaker
>cummins
Bro you sure you can call yourself a dodge man?[/QUOTE]
Hold on, hold on, you got a problem with cummins engines bro?
[QUOTE=Valon Kyre;47700479]>6 leaker
>cummins
Bro you sure you can call yourself a dodge man?
[editline]10th May 2015[/editline]
Also, how many "veteran" members are here, like, since pretty well the begining? I remember v3 is when I started posting here. Been through a lot of members here.
Just came to mind when I seen that daytona and I was gonna mention bradley being a pro and it became apparant how many people here even know bradley?[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure AA and DIY are the only forums I EVER posted in on this site pretty much. So I guess I've been here a while. Pretty much since the end of college and I'm 26 now. I found this site when I was reading through one of those "choose your own adventure" websites, you know where people write stories and then you click what you would do, and then eventually you die. - Someone wrote a story about a loser who just looked at facepunch, and I wondered what that was. I had already had a steam account, garrys mod, etc, and had no idea what it was before that. I paid money for Team Fortress 2 in a Circuit City - the same one where I bought the original X-com game on 12 floppy disks in the 90s, that's how old I am.
Also Mustang Sally, you're as much a Mopar guy as I am a WWF wrestling superstar. (up for interpretation)
While I am not against you buying a Dart that's nice, the problem is, you have time invested into something that you built yourself.
When I went to this last car show, 2 cars away was this 70s Dart Swinger with a 360. It was absolutely pristine and beautiful, and I asked the guy how long he had been working on it. I also thought he'd notice that my car was a Dart as well and that we should talk, etc... but he didn't know what was going on.
He said he just bought it 3 months ago and that he liked it, and that last year he brought a 70 Challenger to the show instead of this car, neither did he build. He couldn't tell me anything about the car other than he liked it and so the conversation fell flat. I gave him a huge chance to get all excited about the car and that was that. "I bought it because it's nice"
While I know you personally could go buy a Dart and be able to tell everyone exactly what's going on with it, do you want to get asked that question and have that answer? That is trusting you'd answer like a gentleman, because everyone is always interested in how long you worked on this beautiful piece of machinery, and all you can say is - "I bought it like 3 months ago, cause it's cool."
That's why I'd stick with the other one. Build something and then feel good about it.
[QUOTE=Serj22;47700528]Pretty sure AA and DIY are the only forums I EVER posted in on this site pretty much. So I guess I've been here a while. Pretty much since the end of highschool and I'm 26 now..[/QUOTE]
save yourself the trouble and stay the fuck away from the other parts. Unforgiving would be an understatement
[QUOTE=Code3Response;47700540]save yourself the trouble and stay the fuck away from the other parts. Unforgiving would be an understatement[/QUOTE]
I also scroll backwards through the LMAO pictures thread every few days. Sometimes something pops up that gives me a chuckle.
[QUOTE=Serj22;47700550]I also scroll backwards through the LMAO pictures thread every few days. Sometimes something pops up that gives me a chuckle.[/QUOTE]
I normaly find stuff that makes me chuckle pretty good on /b/ and /o/.
I've been here since I noticed AA as a subforum, registered back in 07 because of gmod servers only really stuck around because I ran ExiledServers.net, PERP and what not. Then around the time I shut all that down I started getting really into cars, just sort of carried over.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47700137]wat
I've only EVER heard good things about Bosch parts. Everyone I know that works with cars recommends them. What's wrong with 'em?[/QUOTE]
Their plugs suck in Hondas and general, their oil filters are overpriced as fuck for no real reason, their o2 sensors actually don't work correctly and are extremely common to stop working and in general not work correctly in Hondas. Everything else is mediocre but overpriced and solely propped up by Autozone carrying them as a "supreme" brand which is only good in comparison to their store brand bottom of the barrel ebay tier shit parts.
The only people you will hear good things about them from are people who have shit standards for parts or own vehicles which were built like trash anyways. That or they work for Autozone and know fuck all about cars actually.
If German car enthusiasts tell you the parts are garbage and you shouldn't use them given the choice between a Japanese brand or Bosch, they have to be quite shit. I'm sure some of their parts you should absolutely be using on German cars of course but definitely not the same ones you could put on a Japanese car.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;47700651]their oil filters are overpriced as fuck for no real reason[/QUOTE]
is... is $10.50 expensive for an oil filter...?
That's what it cost when I bought it for my Honda
and for my Ford it's like $6.50
That seems... really cheap
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47700494]Hold on, hold on, you got a problem with cummins engines bro?[/QUOTE]
Bro, bro, hold up, i am like cummins blooded, eat breath and shit cummins I kid you not, but this dude is sayin' theres a 6 leaker cummins, and I know fo' sho' they aint no 6 leaker powerjoke cummins. Theres the 5.9L of indestructibily in 24v and 12v configuration and the 6.7L building puller.
As far as the nice dart goes, I share the same opinion (I think I posted about it too when deadman said he was getting his coronet done) about actually building your own car.
The idea with this one is I would be able to enjoy it until I have the time to do something major. Paint would be easy since the body is done, just scuff and repaint, driveline and suspension upgrades can be done in a week or two, and after they are done just drive the car still. Change it up piece by piece. I wouldn't leave it as is by any means, it would be very much personalized in my own way so I'd be able to share a story about what I've done to the car.
Its kind of three different things, theres buying a car to enjoy, buying a car to make your own, and making your own car from scatch. Each one harder and more rewarding than the last
I fucking love dodge rampages
I want one sooooo bad, but with something better than a 4banger.
[QUOTE=Valon Kyre;47700695]Bro, bro, hold up, i am like cummins blooded, eat breath and shit cummins I kid you not, but this dude is sayin' theres a 6 leaker cummins, and I know fo' sho' they aint no 6 leaker powerjoke cummins. Theres the 5.9L of indestructibily in 24v and 12v configuration and the 6.7L building puller.[/QUOTE]
He was probably referring to the 5.9L engine, considering it's called the "6BT"
Bosch is a great brand but for example, i would never get bosch spark plugs, because they are shit. NGK is usualy better then Bosch
[QUOTE=Valon Kyre;47700479]>6 leaker
>cummins
Bro you sure you can call yourself a dodge man?
[editline]10th May 2015[/editline]
Also, how many "veteran" members are here, like, since pretty well the begining? I remember v3 is when I started posting here. Been through a lot of members here.
Just came to mind when I seen that daytona and I was gonna mention bradley being a pro and it became apparant how many people here even know bradley?[/QUOTE]
I think I posted in AA from the beginning, if only to ask questions about gutting my first hand-me-down car. I only talked to bradley once over steam about designing passive forced induction for our '70 GTO and I think I annoyed him with how ignorant I was about forced induction. That was after he stopped posting here as much. He was a wealth of knowledge that is missed.
He was the only person I've ever even heard of swapping engines and transmissions n shit without even using a hoist.
How about those new Dodge's that get 21/29- granted its the 2wd model
A fullsize truck gets better MPG than my Blazer.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;47700772]How about those new Dodge's that get 21/29- granted its the 2wd model
A fullsize truck gets better MPG than my Blazer.[/QUOTE]
That's sticker MPG. It probably gets closer to 16-19 / 25-27
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