• Age of consent should be lowered.
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While I mostly agree on the idea that most 14 year olds are horrible decision makers, I have to ask one thing: What about the few that are mature and possess the capacity for thinking beyond the usual teenage scope of things? When I was fourteen, I was more concerned with developing artistic ability, studying philosophy and sciences, and finding peace. I wasn't spending my time trying to get into chicks' pants, that was something I left behind when I was twelve. I don't see the problem in letting mature teenagers engage in consensual protected sex. It's the dumb ones that are the loudest and ruin it for everybody else.
op can i direct you towards a local nambla chapter
[QUOTE=Moose;28540741]uh no[/QUOTE] Where in the U.S. is the age of consent 16?
[QUOTE=kenshin44;28544764]Where in the U.S. is the age of consent 16?[/QUOTE] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Age_of_Consent_-_north_america.png[/img]
What you guys dont know that some EU countries age of consent is 14/5 but there can only be a 4 year difference between the 2 individuals so 15 year old can legally have sex with a 19 year old but not a 20 year old.
the age of consent should be 18+ teenagers are really bad decision makers and will most likely end up ruining their own lives in the future
[QUOTE=Upgrade123;28544330]While I mostly agree on the idea that most 14 year olds are horrible decision makers, I have to ask one thing: What about the few that are mature and possess the capacity for thinking beyond the usual teenage scope of things?[/QUOTE] If they are mature enough to understand etcetera, then they are mature enough to wait.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;28545428]If they are mature enough to understand etcetera, then they are mature enough to wait.[/QUOTE] so you're promoting abstinence? This is not the solution.
14-16 is generally the best age IMO.
You're generally given a three year leeway as long as both parties are below 18, and one is above the age of consent. A 14 year old can have consentual sex with a 17 year old, etc. [editline].[/editline] Called the "Romeo and Juliet" law.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28545447]so you're promoting abstinence? This is not the solution.[/QUOTE] Neither is simply giving in to people's demands.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;28545515]Neither is simply giving in to people's needs.[/QUOTE] So want to promote abstinence but not democracy or human needs? Whats wrong with you?
[QUOTE=Lamar;28545546]So want to promote abstinence but not democracy or human needs? Whats wrong with you?[/QUOTE] Since when is sex vital to staying alive?
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;28545403]the age of consent should be 18+ teenagers are really bad decision makers and will most likely end up ruining their own lives in the future[/QUOTE] You're basically saying, without anything to back it up, that you know what's best for other people and your ass-backwards opinion should be put into law.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;28545566]Since when is sex vital to staying alive?[/QUOTE] You being forever alone does not constitute everyone else wanting to be in the same position.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;28545566]Since when is sex vital to staying alive?[/QUOTE] it's vital for mental health, do you understand just how distraught some sexually-repressed people are?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;28545566]Since when is sex vital to staying alive?[/QUOTE] The whole point of life is to reproduce, brodude. Hence "human needs." [editline]11th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lamar;28545586]it's vital for mental health, do you understand just how distraught some sexually-repressed people are?[/QUOTE] This, too.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28545586]it's vital for mental health, do you understand just how distraught some sexually-repressed people are?[/QUOTE] should make a poll to see how many opinions have been swayed, lowering the AOC is a necessary action.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28545598]should make a poll to see how many opinions have been swayed, lowering the AOC is a necessary action.[/QUOTE] No lower than 16. 17 would probably be the perfect age. [editline].[/editline] Though on that note, flexibility should be given in certain cases.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;28545606]No lower than 16. 17 would probably be the perfect age.[/QUOTE] Can you at least try to explain why you think this? There is no substantial difference between a 16 year-old and a 17 year-old.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28545598]should make a poll to see how many opinions have been swayed, lowering the AOC is a necessary action.[/QUOTE] Necessary? Like legalizing slavery is also necessary?
[QUOTE=Sanius;28545613]Can you at least try to explain why you think this? There is no substantial difference between a 16 year-old and a 17 year-old.[/QUOTE] There's a moderate difference. When you hit 17, you start getting bombarded with more responsibilities and expectations, along with a few more rights (like driving). So naturally that process makes you think more logically in general. And then it's also at the stage where most relationships would become sexual anyway. [QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;28545634]Necessary? Like legalizing slavery is also necessary?[/QUOTE] Stop trying.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;28545642]There's a moderate difference. When you hit 17, you start getting bombarded with more responsibilities and expectations, along with a few more rights (like driving). So naturally that process makes you think more logically in general. And then it's also at the stage where most relationships would become sexual anyway. [/QUOTE] ...Most relationships become sexual when people are 12 years or 13 years-old. I'm not trying to take the piss out of you, I just don't see any good reason why there should be laws like this in the first place. They are completely arbitrary.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;28545642] Stop trying.[/QUOTE] What? Dai confirmed him to be an alt of Sporkfire, who's currently banned for making a thread saying slavery should be legalized.
[QUOTE=Sanius;28545663]...Most relationships become sexual when people are 12 years or 13 years-old. I'm not trying to take the piss out of you, I just don't see any good reason why there should be laws like this in the first place. They are completely arbitrary.[/QUOTE] I don't know about you, but 12 or 13 is far too young for anything beyond making out in my eyes. Laws are there to prevent people being taken advantage of, so the law needs to be placed where you're beyond being easily taken advantage of - when you know what the responsibilities of your rights are. Of course, a lot of people will discount the law. I mean, I'll admit I did - though sadly not to the full extent. That's why a few years leeway should be given, whereby it's not quite a criminal offence, but is not legal. [QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;28545673]What? Dai confirmed him to be an alt of Sporkfire, who's currently banned for making a thread saying slavery should be legalized.[/QUOTE] You're not making any points to disprove what he said. You're just using his previous posts as ammunition to try to get him to stop making points.
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;28531683]It shouldn't be lowered, but there should be some lenience if you're within 3 years or something. You shouldn't go to jail for having sex with your girlfriend of 2 years on your 18th birthday.[/QUOTE] Yeah except who honestly in their right mind would ever report something like that. It's not like you go around your school and infront of the police station going LOL I JUST HAD SEX AND IT FELT SO GOOD WITH MY 16 YEAR OLD GF LMAO unless you're a tool and an idiot
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;28545673]What? Dai confirmed him to be an alt of Sporkfire, who's currently banned for making a thread saying slavery should be legalized.[/QUOTE] It's true. Sporkfire loves getting people riled up for X reason.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;28545751] You're not making any points to disprove what he said. You're just using his previous posts as ammunition to try to get him to stop making points.[/QUOTE] Fine then. I don't feel that somebody who thinks legalizing slavery is a good thing should determine what is necessary or not. It just removes credibility.
[QUOTE=Seiteki;28545792]It's true. Sporkfire loves getting people riled up for X reason.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but this reeks of Demagogy. Just because I encourage different perspectives, doesn't mean I love getting people riled up.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28545836]I'm sorry but this reeks of Demagogy.[/QUOTE] [quote]Demagogy is a strategy for gaining political power by appealing to the prejudices, emotions, fears and expectations of the public—typically via impassioned rhetoric and propaganda, and often using nationalist, populist or religious themes.[/quote] Somehow I think you're using the wrong word here.
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