• Sex, Girlfriends and Shit II
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at least he didnt jack off in front of her on webcam and expect that to turn serious. if he lives within visiting distance like he says, just let him see where it goes, maybe he actually goes out with her, who knows ~dont judge*~
[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;31435974]at least he didnt jack off in front of her on webcam and expect that to turn serious. if he lives within visiting distance like he says, just let him see where it goes, maybe he actually goes out with her, who knows ~dont judge*~[/QUOTE] Thanks, you and Hana-San are the only ones to understand. I don't get it, is it because i met her online that you guys are so negative about this? I've seen alot of people who have met online, even a good friend of my met his GF via the exact Same site as i did. Also, it's not like i expect her to be my GF or be all over me when i'm there. I just like her and want to explore if i really like her and maybe she'll like me.
[QUOTE=Xehanort;31439035]Thanks, you and Hana-San are the only ones to understand. I don't get it, is it because i met her online that you guys are so negative about this? I've seen alot of people who have met online, even a good friend of my met his GF via the exact Same site as i did. Also, it's not like i expect her to be my GF or be all over me when i'm there. I just like her and want to explore if i really like her and maybe she'll like me.[/QUOTE] I'm no relationships expert but it's probably because most online relationships fall apart.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;31452473]I'm no relationships expert but it's probably because most online relationships fall apart.[/QUOTE] Then it's not that different from a regular relationship. Most relationships in general fall apart.
[QUOTE=SaWAH;31452630]Then it's not that different from a regular relationship. Most relationships in general fall apart.[/QUOTE] I mean fall apart before you even get a chance to meet each other.
those usually fall apart because they leave thousands of miles away from each other, this guy is saying he's within visiting distance, so as far as im concerned it isnt dead yet
[QUOTE=SaWAH;31452630]Then it's not that different from a regular relationship. Most relationships in general fall apart.[/QUOTE] They aren't nearly as fulfilling as regularly getting to see the person your dating. Sure you may see the person for a couple of weeks at a time, but it usually doesn't get much further than a few meetups. This from my friends' experiences with online dating.
Well what do you care? Just stay away from that type of relationship, but let the people who want have them. It's honestly none of your concern. At all.
[QUOTE=SaWAH;31454704]Well what do you care? Just stay away from that type of relationship, but let the people who want have them. It's honestly none of your concern. At all.[/QUOTE]Oh man not this debate again. The reason we all come out and say "internet/long distance relationships don't work" is because most relationships fail overall, and there is no point investing even more time and energy than normal into someone you barely know, knowing it will very likely fail. Even Maverick says that if you had been with someone for a long time and then got stuck in a long-distance scenario, it might make sense to do it. But jumping into a long-distance relationship from the start? That is a mistake. Don't do it.
Dude, you're never going to succeed in ANYTHING if you enter something with the mindset "It's going to fail anyway, so why bother?" - what an awful argument. If you're not willing to risk that it might not work out, then you sure as hell aren't going to gain anything either. And why not invest extra time and energy into someone you barely know? Isn't that the whole process of getting to know each other? I don't know about you, but I didn't know my boyfriend before we started going out - but yea, I totally see how I made the mistake of investing time and energy into someone I didn't know back then, because a relationship between us might not have worked out - even though it did. And what's with the "Even Maverick says..."? As if that would make me go "Oh, Mavericki B said it, so now what I'm saying is invalid"
[QUOTE=SaWAH;31455779]Dude, you're never going to succeed in ANYTHING if you enter something with the mindset "It's going to fail anyway, so why bother?" - what an awful argument. If you're not willing to risk that it might not work out, then you sure as hell aren't going to gain anything either. And why not invest extra time and energy into someone you barely know? Isn't that the whole process of getting to know each other? I don't know about you, but I didn't know my boyfriend before we started going out - but yea, I totally see how I made the mistake of investing time and energy into someone I didn't know back then, because a relationship between us might not have worked out - even though it did. And what's with the "Even Maverick says..."? As if that would make me go "Oh, Mavericki B said it, so now what I'm saying is invalid"[/QUOTE]You misunderstand. What I mean to say is, developing a long distance relationship takes a lot more effort than an otherwise normal relationship, but the chance of success is even lower than normal. More work, worse odds, and the reward is, at best, the same, and usually, not as good as an otherwise normal relationship. Most of the people who jump right into a long-distance relationship either believe in the one-person-is-your soulmate crap or they have serious problems getting dates on a day-to-day basis. Both of these can be fixed, and people can be efficient about their dating and get some experience before they really get involved with someone. "Even Maverick says" is because he is generally opposed to long distance relationships and his word is pretty respected here, despite how you might feel about that. But hey, my argument stands on its own, it doesn't need Maverick's "blessing" to be right. Edit: Also wanted to say that most people couldn't handle a long-distance relationship anyway. It takes a special brand of stubborn to pull it off. The same stubborn that will see you fight this tooth and nail until you understand this was never personal and though I hope you're happy, I don't give a fuck about your personal life. I am discussing efficiency, experience, and dating. Long-distance is for the experienced or for those in what was already a long-term relationship. It is not for new relationships or for those new to dating. Things can only go wrong that way.
What do these mean: She constantly makes physical contact (like nipping, biting, stroking-touching arm/waist, pulling my hair). She makes eye contact (all the fucking time). Anytime we meet she always gets so close to me she's in my intimate zone. Even when we walk side by side. She's really open to me, I mean god, nothing is embarassing for her when we are alone. She constantly asks if I like this or that girl. Also asks a lot about if I like or dislike something on her/ of her. If I meet another girl, she gets jealous, calling them bitch, whore etc. behind their back. When we meet, and she notices me, she smiles like the cat from Alice in Wonderland, except not in a creepy way. So, what's the diagnosis? I mean she's my friend and I want it to stay that way.
friends with benefits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[QUOTE=FlakAttack;31457453]You misunderstand. What I mean to say is, developing a long distance relationship takes a lot more effort than an otherwise normal relationship, but the chance of success is even lower than normal. More work, worse odds, and the reward is, at best, the same, and usually, not as good as an otherwise normal relationship. Most of the people who jump right into a long-distance relationship either believe in the one-person-is-your soulmate crap or they have serious problems getting dates on a day-to-day basis. Both of these can be fixed, and people can be efficient about their dating and get some experience before they really get involved with someone. "Even Maverick says" is because he is generally opposed to long distance relationships and his word is pretty respected here, despite how you might feel about that. But hey, my argument stands on its own, it doesn't need Maverick's "blessing" to be right. Edit: Also wanted to say that most people couldn't handle a long-distance relationship anyway. It takes a special brand of stubborn to pull it off. The same stubborn that will see you fight this tooth and nail until you understand this was never personal and though I hope you're happy, I don't give a fuck about your personal life. I am discussing efficiency, experience, and dating. Long-distance is for the experienced or for those in what was already a long-term relationship. It is not for new relationships or for those new to dating. Things can only go wrong that way.[/QUOTE] Your argument isn't standing, man, it's hardly an argument. You're just making assumptions which you are, as far as I know, in no position to make really. Why don't you back some of the thing's you're spewing up, instead of just making it about your own personal opinion/experience/whatever. Where's the statistics saying that LDRs tend to fail more than "normal" relationships? Where's the measurement of reward from relationships - something you claim there's less of in LDRs? Seriously, are you fisting your argument out of that deep dark anus of yours, because all I get from it is yaddah yaddah, long distance sucks because I have made-up claims to back it up.
Sawah's right, honestly, if you want to have a long-distance relationship, more power to you, who the hell cares
I've seen two long-distance relationships fail and one thrive. Sure, the probability isn't on your side, but the chance of success is still there.
[QUOTE=Tazza;31457694]friends with benefits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE] Yeah, but someone else maybe I'd try that. [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;31457710]I'm taking a [B]wild[/B] guess here and assuming she might be interested in you!!![/QUOTE] Okay but I have to know it for sure.
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;31457833]yeah dude im in the same situation she always makes eye contact (i mean wtf!! so desperate O_O) and we walked together once.. like she was even NEXT to me dude holy crap i was so embarrassed that day. i think i should ask her out right![/QUOTE] Thanks folks, gotta see to it. Aw. Fuck my connection. [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;31458772]Touch her boobies, if she doesn't call the cops she def wants u[/QUOTE] I'm gonna go with the simple "ask" scenario, but yours is good too.
[QUOTE=SaWAH;31457925]Your argument isn't standing, man, it's hardly an argument. You're just making assumptions which you are, as far as I know, in no position to make really. Why don't you back some of the thing's you're spewing up, instead of just making it about your own personal opinion/experience/whatever. Where's the statistics saying that LDRs tend to fail more than "normal" relationships? Where's the measurement of reward from relationships - something you claim there's less of in LDRs? Seriously, are you fisting your argument out of that deep dark anus of yours, because all I get from it is yaddah yaddah, long distance sucks because I have made-up claims to back it up.[/QUOTE]I did not say there is less reward in LDRs. What I was getting at was that, [B]on average[/B], it will not be as rewarding. It's not impossible that an LDR is as rewarding as a closer relationship. It is totally possible. But for an LDR to be as rewarding, it's going to take more effort and most people aren't going to be able to handle it. LDRs do actually work... under the right circumstances, with the right personalities, and with an end in sight. Knowing that you have the right circumstances and personalities for it from the very beginning of a relationship is absolutely impossible. However if you've been in a relationship for some time and it becomes an LDR you might be in a better position to judge it and you also stand to lose more if you bail so the chances of people sticking around are better. Now, if you just jump into an LDR with someone you met over the internet or whatever, yeah, you might luck out and everything lines up perfectly and you're both able to take the stress and you're both patient people with reasons for doing what you're doing... but come on, what are the chances of this? Again, yes, it does happen... but you better be damned sure it's worth the effort, and I don't think people who are new to relationships in general are in a position to accurately judge that. But hey, we can flip side this too. The burden of proof is not mine: I don't have to prove LDRs don't work. Where is the huge body of evidence supporting them? It's not like I'm fighting some widely held belief with tons of paperwork backing it up. And seriously, why even question the validity of an informal internet argument when it could so obviously go both ways?
[QUOTE=Jancsika402;31457612]What do these mean: She constantly makes physical contact (like nipping, biting, stroking-touching arm/waist, pulling my hair). She makes eye contact (all the fucking time). Anytime we meet she always gets so close to me she's in my intimate zone. Even when we walk side by side. She's really open to me, I mean god, nothing is embarassing for her when we are alone. She constantly asks if I like this or that girl. Also asks a lot about if I like or dislike something on her/ of her. If I meet another girl, she gets jealous, calling them bitch, whore etc. behind their back. When we meet, and she notices me, she smiles like the cat from Alice in Wonderland, except not in a creepy way. So, what's the diagnosis? I mean she's my friend and I want it to stay that way.[/QUOTE] I think she might just be friendly. She might slightly like you but by the sounds of it if she really liked you she would have the confidence to actually do something. I often talk like that to one of my male friends. He even asks me to scratch his stomach. Don't ask. But I'm already going out with someone, it's just a lot of fun.
[QUOTE=Jancsika402;31458702]Okay but I have to know it for sure.[/QUOTE] your first lesson about the pursuit of women: you can never, ever be sure. you just have to try and hope she likes you. i get it, i wish i could be sure too, because i would hate to be rejected, but if you try to wait until youre completely sure she wants you, it'll be too late.
You guys have completely skewed the argument. This isn't about long distance relationships or if they work or not. The problem here is that there's a kid that doesn't usually speak to girls much in real life, probably lacks solid social skills, has little to no experience with relationships, and has met his first real interest online. Taking it a step further, he actually took screenshots of her laughing to prove to us that she's interested, like come on that's just plain unusual. Nothing against Xehanort but these assumptions are very easy to make from the posts he's made here. There's nothing wrong with meeting a girl online, especially if she lives a viable distance away. Hell, good for him, I agree with lil_nooblet in saying let him see where it goes because it could very well work out for him. The problem has nothing to do with her being online though, it just adds to it. He's already defending her and his interest in her without quite having a grasp of what he's getting himself into. He's making the assumption she's interested based on the fact that she was able to laugh with him. Of course he's going to quickly become attached to a girl showing any sign of interest in him, he's completely unused to it, and the worst place to start with such experiences is online. My personal opinion is that he should go with it, it'd be stupid to outright turn the opportunity down simply because it's online, and he's bound to learn something from it no matter where it goes. However, shit like this is too easy across the Internet. He isn't putting himself out there, he's sticking within his comfort zone, restricting his ability to really develop himself and gain experience. Anyone can appear cool and likeable online, but that very rarely translates to real world confidence and assurance. As Flak said, it makes much more sense to gain real experience by talking to girls in real life before thinking about finding girls online. Perhaps this is a bit of an unfair generalization but most of the people you'd find looking for online relationships, especially in the teenager years, are the quiet, socially-inept kind that are desperate for any form of connection with someone else. I believe it'd be in the best interest of such people to get over their insecurities and start making conscious attempts to develop their own sense of self and confidence through real life interactions. And just as an aside, I wouldn't ever want a relationship with a girl that sits on online dating sites and dresses up in corsets for guys she doesn't know.
Fucking shit, man. What the fuck do I do with a girl that can't take the hints that I'm obviously not interested in her. I mean for Christ sakes she's offering massages and shit when I say that my backs been hurting, and she gets me to explain everything political to her, and keeps dropping these [B]MASSIVE[/B] hints that she likes me, and I keep fighting her off. It's getting tiring
"I'm sorry but I'm not interested, leave me alone kthx."
[QUOTE=ewitwins;31463750]Fucking shit, man. What the fuck do I do with a girl that can't take the hints that I'm obviously not interested in her. I mean for Christ sakes she's offering massages and shit when I say that my backs been hurting, and she gets me to explain everything political to her, and keeps dropping these [B]MASSIVE[/B] hints that she likes me, and I keep fighting her off. It's getting tiring[/QUOTE] Walk up to her and say fuck off.
[QUOTE=Dark_Light;31463878]"I'm sorry but I'm not interested, leave me alone kthx."[/QUOTE] I've done that, actually. I'm too polite to tell her to bugger off.
Well you're either going to have to leave your comfort zone and tell her to leave you alone aggressively, or just put up with it.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;31459200]Just feel her up lol[/QUOTE] lol no dude [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Hana-San;31460593]I think she might just be friendly. She might slightly like you but by the sounds of it if she really liked you she would have the confidence to actually do something. I often talk like that to one of my male friends. He even asks me to scratch his stomach. Don't ask. But I'm already going out with someone, it's just a lot of fun.[/QUOTE] Okay, thank you very much! [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=lil_n00blett;31461051]your first lesson about the pursuit of women: you can never, ever be sure. you just have to try and hope she likes you. i get it, i wish i could be sure too, because i would hate to be rejected, but if you try to wait until youre completely sure she wants you, it'll be too late.[/QUOTE] You're getting it all wrong, I don't pursue or want anything with her, I just want to stay like this, I'm not interested in her any way more than a friend.
[QUOTE=gufu;31458602]I've seen two long-distance relationships fail and one thrive. Sure, the probability isn't on your side, but the chance of success is still there.[/QUOTE] I've been in two, the first failed due to reasons that were totally separate from the distance, the second is no longer long distance. Sure there's a chance of LDRs failing but it's unfair to assume that a LDR is definitely going to fail and isn't even worth a try. It all depends on you as a person and what you can handle.
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