• Sex, Girlfriends and Shit II
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I got told about a book and how it "changed" someone's life (concerning chicks). I'm reading it now; it's kinda strange. The Game - Neil Strauss. Anyone else read it? [editline]16th July 2011[/editline] The techniques by pickup artists in it; they just seem like it would never work. [quote]"But how do you kiss her?" Sweater asked. "I just say, 'Would you like to kiss me?'" "And then what happens?" "One of three things," Mystery said. "If she says, 'Yes,' which is very rare, you kiss her. If she says, 'Maybe,' or hesitates, then you say, 'Let's find out,' and kiss her. And if she says, 'No,' you say, 'I didn't say you could. It just looked like you had something on your mind.'"[/quote] [editline]16th July 2011[/editline] It has a few things a lot of people could learn from. "Negging". Not pussying up and flooding girls with compliments, the complete opposite. Find a flaw in their looks and mention it in a joking way.
hahahahaha just man up, you don't need a book to help you do that
[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;31161879]hahahahaha just man up, you don't need a book to help you do that[/QUOTE] Yeah, I know. Just an interesting read; I'm not reading this because I "need" to, just seen as it's interesting seeing things from another perspective.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;31160937] The techniques by pickup artists in it; they just seem like it would never work.[/QUOTE] A fair amount of it revolves around, IMHO, making your intended target believe that you're too good for her, and that you'd be doing her a favour if you stooped to her level (hence the put-downs, and the emotional manipulation). It does work for a lot of women. However, if a girl has a solid sense of self-esteem, she'll most likely tell you to fuck off before you can get anywhere. I can't speak for all of it, though; I'm sure there's stuff that doesn't operate on that principle. [editline]17th July 2011[/editline] Not to mention, the above technique wouldn't be terribly appropriate for long-term relationships. Although I do think there's something to be said for not complimenting a girl 24/7, and being the oft-mentioned 'nice guy'. You generally want a relationship to be on relatively equal terms between participants.
[QUOTE=Occlusion;31158292]If i wake up tomorrow and there isn't a 10 page argument between giraffen and everyone else i'm going to be very dissapointed in you guys.[/QUOTE] aww. [QUOTE=TBFundy;31159112]giraffen do you have a billowing uncut curly mop of hair on your head? and does the girl have streaks of aqua blue in her hair and wears too much eyeliner?[/QUOTE] no [QUOTE=devotchkade;31159988]Aha, jesus. You're the one who insisted numerous times that you [b]didn't[/b] meet her online, 'she met you' or some such bullshit. Don't rage when someone calls you out on it. Whilst we're at it, do you care about being in a relationship, or don't you? You've said both several times, too.[/QUOTE] i don't know anymore i'm pretty drunk now i think, going to bed.
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;31159360]If what you're trying to do is see if you know them, they live in sweden. There's such a small chance of you knowing them anyway.[/QUOTE] I was moreso satirizing him by pointing out features of people who are commonly socially awkward
the only way i'm socially awkward now are by not knowing what to talk about.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;31160937]I got told about a book and how it "changed" someone's life (concerning chicks). I'm reading it now; it's kinda strange. The Game - Neil Strauss. Anyone else read it? [editline]16th July 2011[/editline] The techniques by pickup artists in it; they just seem like it would never work. [editline]16th July 2011[/editline] It has a few things a lot of people could learn from. "Negging". Not pussying up and flooding girls with compliments, the complete opposite. Find a flaw in their looks and mention it in a joking way.[/QUOTE] Whilst a lot of those pua books are worth reading, they're hardly worth internalizing and putting into practise. Most of them, especially The Game, are really fucking cheap and the 'techniques' they describe are just low and make the whole picking up thing seem so tacky and surprisingly enough, like a game. As someone else said, they're hardly appropriate for a meaningful relationship, but that's fair enough seeing as most of those books are aimed at getting the reader laid as quickly as possible. If you want to look into any of that sort of material, I would suggest looking at some of the Real Social Dynamics shit by Tyler Durden, especially the Transformations or Foundations DVDs. They're focused a lot more around developing oneself rather than employing gimmicky techniques or manipulative games and whatnot, and I can say that I found some real value in watching them, especially the former.
Giraffen93 you really gotta sort out your priorities. Her not being able to see you should be the last of your worries. Seeing the posts you made here I wouldn't be so surprised if she was using her dad as a scapegoat to not see you, even more so for the possibility that her dad actually does have legitimate concerns with reasons painfully obvious. Besides from that I also can't understand you. You're basically not interested in finding any relationship if it requires effort? If that's the case then I honestly do wish you luck when you do manage to get inside one. Starting it is one thing, building it over time is another. If you are legitimately interested in this girl then let me add this. Since she's probably the first girl you've come across who's been incredibly open and talkative with you, I'd wager that you're completely misinterpreting her and are filing things you both say and do as romantic when in reality they're not. She probably only wants to talk to you online as a friend and not actually see you in real life, but instead you're taking the message the wrong way and are interpreting her vague answers as something in your favour. If she sees you as a boyfriend then she would've made that painfully obvious by now. It's already been said many times in this thread, take the effort to read it all properly.
[QUOTE=GreenDolphin;31165093]Giraffen93 you gotta sort out your priorities. Her not being able to see you should be the last of your worries. Seeing the posts you made here I wouldn't be so surprised if she was using her dad as a scapegoat to not see you, even more so for the possibility that her dad actually does have legitimate concerns with reasons painfully obvious. Besides from that I also can't understand you. You're basically not interested in finding any relationship if it requires effort. If that's the case then I honestly do wish you luck when you do manage to get inside one. If you are legitimately interested in this girl then let me add this. Since she's probably the first girl you've come across who's been incredibly open and talkative with you, I'd wager that you're completely misinterpreting her and are filing things you both say and do as romantic when in reality they're not. She probably only wants to talk to you online as a friend and not actually see you in real life, but instead you're taking the message the wrong way and are interpreting her vague answers as something in your favour. If she sees you as a boyfriend then she would've made that painfully obvious by now. It's already been said many times in this thread, take the effort to read it all properly.[/QUOTE] It's the first time i've been talking to a girl this way. It might not turn out great, but i'm giving it a try. And as i said, i don't think she's avoiding me, she just has alot to do at home. I DID meet her, so she has no problems with it. I'll re-read it all tomorrow, can't think properly yet.
There was this girl back when I was in elementary school, (she used to live in my neighborhood) we would sit on the bus together and talk. She would bring her game boy advance and we would play it, when the DS came out we bought it and we played nintendogs together, then one day I told her I had a suprise for her, I told her to close her eyes and look straight forward, she did this, of course. And I kissed her on the cheek, she blushed deeply and she did the same to me. I knew she liked me. then I saw this girl (who also lives in my neighborhood) and I wanted her. So I gave the bus girl the news and she was sad, but I told her we would still be friends. Then I started talking to the other girl and she didn't like me as I liked her. 9 years later I still feel guilt for leaving her for someone who doesn't like me back, I remember her name, I tried looking her up on Facebook. Nothing. Feels bad man. [url]http://www.myspace.com/278021181[/url] This is the only information I've gotten about her, it's her myspace and she hasn't been on it in a year. If anyone could find out her phone number, I will gift you a game on steam.
You're sweet, but I wouldn't pin my hopes on a girl you haven't spoken to in 9 years.
[QUOTE=Hardpoint Nomad;31165366]There was this girl back when I was in elementary school, (she used to live in my neighborhood) we would sit on the bus together and talk. She would bring her game boy advance and we would play it, when the DS came out we bought it and we played nintendogs together, then one day I told her I had a suprise for her, I told her to close her eyes and look straight forward, she did this, of course. And I kissed her on the cheek, she blushed deeply and she did the same to me. I knew she liked me. then I saw this girl (who also lives in my neighborhood) and I wanted her. So I gave the bus girl the news and she was sad, but I told her we would still be friends. Then I started talking to the other girl and she didn't like me as I liked her. 9 years later I still feel guilt for leaving her for someone who doesn't like me back, I remember her name, I tried looking her up on Facebook. Nothing. Feels bad man. -snip- This is the only information I've gotten about her, it's her myspace and she hasn't been on it in a year. If anyone could find out her phone number, I will gift you a game on steam.[/QUOTE] Finding her online is a bit creepy, telling us to find her phone number and contact details is downright desperate and creepy. What would you do in your position if someone from a long time ago suddenly came into your life calling you up or sending you e-mails and letters? This also happened 9 years ago in elementary school. You can live and move on from this no matter how guilty you may feel about it. Drop it, be cool, and don't be a creep.
The story started off pretty cute and I was expecting it to end with something like "Lesson learned: blah blah blah", but you're actually trying to find the girl again? That's creepy as fuck dude.
Whenever me and my girlfriend are on skype chatting, Ill open up Facepunch and browse around while talking to her. occasionaly Ill see somethign funny and laugh out loud or show a huge grin. She'll be all like "what are you laughing at" and to avoid telling her the funny thing I was laughing at I just tell her my mouth was hurting or I was coughing. thing is if I told her what I was laughing at she'd probably say "Oh, you're so weird" or something like that
finding the girl again isn't that creepy if he was to just search her on facebook. How we then found her myspace and wants to pay someone with a game in order to find her phone number, [i]that's[/i] creepy. [editline]17th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Jmir 54;31165640]Whenever me and my girlfriend are on skype chatting, Ill open up Facepunch and browse around while talking to her. occasionaly Ill see somethign funny and laugh out loud or show a huge grin. She'll be all like "what are you laughing at" and to avoid telling her the funny thing OH FUCK IT I CANT WORD THIS SHIT GOOD ENOUGH[/QUOTE] I was following you until that last line, then I lost you
Fixed it
i really need to sleep.. god damnit yeah ok i get it, this is not the gd
[QUOTE=Jmir 54;31165640]Whenever me and my girlfriend are on skype chatting, Ill open up Facepunch and browse around while talking to her. occasionaly Ill see somethign funny and laugh out loud or show a huge grin. She'll be all like "what are you laughing at" and to avoid telling her the funny thing I was laughing at I just tell her my mouth was hurting or I was coughing. thing is if I told her what I was laughing at she'd probably say "Oh, you're so weird" or something like that[/QUOTE] I think what you're doing is weirder than telling her what you're laughing at.
just say a funny image, then quickly find a funny image to send her
[QUOTE=Jmir 54;31165640]Whenever me and my girlfriend are on skype chatting, Ill open up Facepunch and browse around while talking to her. occasionaly Ill see somethign funny and laugh out loud or show a huge grin. She'll be all like "what are you laughing at" and to avoid telling her the funny thing I was laughing at I just tell her my mouth was hurting or I was coughing. thing is if I told her what I was laughing at she'd probably say "Oh, you're so weird" or something like that[/QUOTE] I had the same thing happen to me last night but I ended up so distracted by LMAO Pics Thread that I was just on the phone going "ahhuh, mhhm, yep" every time she said something that sounded like I would need to agree.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;31160937] It has a few things a lot of people could learn from. "Negging". Not pussying up and flooding girls with compliments, the complete opposite. Find a flaw in their looks and mention it in a joking way.[/QUOTE] "hahaha so i heard you're a slut"
[QUOTE=Hardpoint Nomad;31165366]If anyone could find out her phone number, I will gift you a game on steam.[/QUOTE] Incredibly creepy
My Girlfriend is one of these no-sex-before-marriage types. She always overstresses that we'll not get married. So I can can do the usual "no-sex" things, but I'm pretty much running out of ideas.
Why doesn't she want to have sex before marriage? Is it religious in nature? Also, um, ouch.
[QUOTE=HatredViral;31171515]My Girlfriend is one of these no-sex-before-marriage types. She always overstresses that we'll not get married. So I can can do the usual "no-sex" things, but I'm pretty much running out of ideas.[/QUOTE] Tell her that you really like her and you want to show your appreciation and feelings for her through copulation.
Yeah it's not an issue I can push. Honestly I think I'm insane for still dating her. :frown:
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;31160937]I got told about a book and how it "changed" someone's life (concerning chicks). I'm reading it now; it's kinda strange. The Game - Neil Strauss. Anyone else read it? The techniques by pickup artists in it; they just seem like it would never work. It has a few things a lot of people could learn from. "Negging". Not pussying up and flooding girls with compliments, the complete opposite. Find a flaw in their looks and mention it in a joking way.[/QUOTE] Yeah The Game has some cool stuff in it, and you'll find similar material on the internet (especially on the various pua forums). The idea, if I understand correctly, is to help those guys who want to get laid be more successful, and to help those guys who want something a little more permanent to be more confident. You may find those Tyler Durden DVDs Dark_Light mentioned more useful, but it really depends on your personality. I'd start with the DVDs first though, I've heard amazing things about them. [QUOTE=Jmir 54;31165640]Whenever me and my girlfriend are on skype chatting, Ill open up Facepunch and browse around while talking to her. occasionaly Ill see somethign funny and laugh out loud or show a huge grin. She'll be all like "what are you laughing at" and to avoid telling her the funny thing I was laughing at I just tell her my mouth was hurting or I was coughing. thing is if I told her what I was laughing at she'd probably say "Oh, you're so weird" or something like that[/QUOTE] My GF and I call each other weird all the time. It's a pretty generic statement really. But if she did genuinely find you strange, perhaps that means you have a little trouble meshing? Depends on whether she finds it endearing or annoying I guess. [QUOTE=HatredViral;31171515]My Girlfriend is one of these no-sex-before-marriage types. She always overstresses that we'll not get married. So I can can do the usual "no-sex" things, but I'm pretty much running out of ideas.[/QUOTE] Ugh... no sex before marriage. That idea worked great when most people were uneducated and got married at 13 years old, but it's fucking retarded now. Sex for everyone is different, and you really need to experience it to see if you're the right fit. I've had sex with 3 different girls before the one I'm with now. Of those 3, 2 were selfish and barely did anything for me, and the third was just strange. All 3 were boring and quite happy to let me do all the work. Not to mention I'm a little bigger than normal and these girls had a hard time with that. I always thought sex was just kind of average and I didn't much care for it other than to kill the desire for awhile. Then I had sex with the new girl I'm with and even on the first time, there is a WORLD of difference. I wish I could explain it to you but I wouldn't know where to start... but this changes my opinion of sex completely. Basically, you need to have sex to get an idea of what people are like. These first few girls weren't just selfish in bed, they were always selfish but hid it well. Had I not learned that through sex it would have taken a LOT longer. I guess you need to experiment and find your fit. Also, (good) sex is a great way of improving trust, intimacy, and communication.
Well, this was fun, spent the past 3 days with my GF and her family at their summer home. Beside all the fun stuff, it was nice being close to her for that time. Certainly brought us closer than the past 3-4 months did. I learned more about her and she learned more about me. Although she did went to a certain extreme of childishness at one time, but I guess such things happen. [QUOTE=HatredViral;31171515]My Girlfriend is one of these no-sex-before-marriage types. She always overstresses that we'll not get married. So I can can do the usual "no-sex" things, but I'm pretty much running out of ideas.[/QUOTE] Well, tell her that if she won't do it for you and doesn't trust you, then she doesn't love you. How can you trust her, if she doesn't trust you. Damn it, that sounds manipulative. Well, that's certainly a reason why I'd never pull this out, myself.
I would leave her personally. not just because I wouldn't be getting any, but also because I don't think I could get along with people with ideals like that in the long run.
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