They should all just live underground and have a system of highways underground to different towns and cities underground and just never come up to the surface because they might die of tornados.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33515102]And those windows are a major tornado hazard, not to mention the lack of anywhere to take cover.
It's a death can, what about it.[/QUOTE]
i'm pretty sure that some sort of natural disaster-resistant house
Every family in "Tornado Alley" should convert to underground abodes. "Dig a hole and yer dun" as they like to say.
[editline]30th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=RoflKawpter;33515872]They should all just live underground and have a system of highways underground to different towns and cities underground and just never come up to the surface because they might die of tornados.[/QUOTE]
Damn it! I'm late again!
[editline]30th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dysgalt;33511612]They should build their houses underground, since tornadoes don't go underground ya know.[/QUOTE]
I'm super late. :(
[editline]30th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=.enasnI;33513307]Why not just build houses underground?[/QUOTE]
I give up.
[QUOTE=RoflKawpter;33515872]They should all just live underground and have a system of highways underground to different towns and cities underground and just never come up to the surface because they might die of tornados.[/QUOTE]
"Hey Aaron, I heard Jim died a few weeks ago."
"Are you serious? How?"
"He caught the ternader."
"Damn shame, that..."
Had a tornado tear through my neighbor hood when I was 4. I remember small bits and pieces of walking through our neighborhood the next day. Our neighbors house had a tree that had fallen through their garage, etc. What really freaks me out is that they never sounded the tornado siren and it was the middle of the night so we were lucky my dad woke us up.
We don't even live in Tornado Alley (live in Michigan) and I've seen a tornado touch-down from the clouds when I was with my friend and his mom on the highway. Scary as fuck, turn off the highway and right away the sirens start blaring.
Most of you don't seem to understand the damage a tornado will do. Seriously, they will fuck up a concrete/steel house just as much as they will fuck up a wooden house. They can literally destroy anything.
Its smarter than building a city in a place below sea level. Next to the fucking ocean then complaining when it floods...
this house is tornado proof too
[img]http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/SafeHouse6.jpg[/img]
A tornado will not destroy a reinforced concrete structure that is designed with hurricane/tornado force winds taken into consideration. The issue is, it's really expensive to build said structure (much, much more a typical light wood frame house), so you're better off building a typical wood frame house and letting the insurance company worry about replacing the building in the event of a tornado. For personal safety, you can build an underground bunker or something similar to protect yourself in the event of a tornado.
[QUOTE=yuki;33514873]Because Missouri is so absurdly boring that people secretly hope the Tornado will maul them in their sleep.[/QUOTE]
That's not true! We have...um...well...barbecue?
:v:
Surely there's design changes you people can make to make the houses a little less prone to get leveled.
Else, well shit, bricks are cooked mud and cement is common. The only reason it's expensive is because you're not producing it en masse.
From F4 and over, everything gets leveled. But F4-F5 tornadoes don't happen as much as the weaker, timber-house-destroying only tornadoes.
And if you can't build aboveground, just get a basement or a bunker or a Vault or something.
[QUOTE=Lemonator;33517189]this house is tornado proof too
[img]http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/SafeHouse6.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Holy shit, are those big concrete blocks by the window supposed to close in a storm/tornado/hurricane?
Thats fucking cool.
I live right next to if not in Tornado Alley, and there are always Tornadoes just outside of town or in the town next to us. I often consider building an underground "bunker" of the sorts, but life saving shelters just pass right over my head you know?
My town is pretty over due for a Tornado I'd hate to say.
[QUOTE=TRA;33517281]A tornado will not destroy a reinforced concrete structure that is designed with hurricane/tornado force winds taken into consideration. The issue is, it's really expensive to build said structure (much, much more a typical light wood frame house), so you're better off building a typical wood frame house and letting the insurance company worry about replacing the building in the event of a tornado. For personal safety, you can build an underground bunker or something similar to protect yourself in the event of a tornado.[/QUOTE]
This is the kind of answer I was looking for, thank you.
[QUOTE=Lemonator;33517189]this house is tornado proof too
[img]http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/SafeHouse6.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I'd way rather have my house destroyed in a tornado than have to live in a depressing slab of dull concrete like that.
[QUOTE=SiMoN 23259;33506123]This is a question that has been pestering me for a while now. I see that every year on TV that a few F5 tornadoes have ripped through a town in Tornado Alley causing millions of dollars of damage and taken many lives. It's the same every year and I'm sat there wondering why the fuck people continue to re build their houses using timber, bits of toilet paper and 4 toothpicks? Surely common sense would tell you that your just pissing in the wind! (bad pun I know)
I have heard the argument that there is low chance of tornadoes touching down but every year they touch down somewhere, ruining lives and wreaking havoc. If people say it costs too much to build brick houses then they should think about the savings they are going to get if they don't have to re build year after year.
The three little pigs from the fairy tale learnt this lesson and fast, they sheltered in a house made of bricks. So why don't the Yanks do the same?
Somebody enlighten me, feel free to discuss.[/QUOTE]
Brick houses aren't much safer than wooden houses in a tornado.
They're also significantly more expensive and the people who live where tornadoes are common place generally don't have much money.
A cheaper solution would be to build underground houses.
Live in Tornado Alley. Our town is in a valley apparently and twisters have only gotten as close as the isolated farms here. Though earlier this year I thought we were going get hit. Motherfucking 5 tornadoes or some shit with the heaviest winds I've seen.
Gentlemen...gentlemen...
If you build something that weighs more than the energy in a tornado, you will not lift off the ground due to gravity keeping you down. If you build the house out of something very, very strong, like titanium steel, what's there to worry about? You wouldn't even feel the house move around. (And for windows, you can have little sliding doors to shelter them)
Now...the problem in this what-if situation is that we can never determain the power of a tornado. SO! We find out the energy of the worlds most powerful tornado to date and we build something heavier than the energy in that tornado. We could build the house into the ground which would mean more resistance so less weight would be required.
This is a great idea for a fortress or shelter.
[QUOTE=the_headcrab;33534288]Gentlemen...gentlemen...
If you build something that weighs more than the energy in a tornado, you will not lift off the ground due to gravity keeping you down. If you build the house out of something very, very strong, like titanium steel, what's there to worry about? You wouldn't even feel the house move around. (And for windows, you can have little sliding doors to shelter them)
Now...the problem in this what-if situation is that we can never determain the power of a tornado. SO! We find out the energy of the worlds most powerful tornado to date and we build something heavier than the energy in that tornado. We could build the house into the ground which would mean more resistance so less weight would be required.
This is a great idea for a fortress or shelter.[/QUOTE]
Becuase [I]everyone[/I] can afford a house made of Titanium. :downs:
[QUOTE='[CWG]RustySpannerz;33513693']But everyone in the UK uses concrete blocks or brick, why can't the guys in Tonrado valley?[/QUOTE]
Even if you use concrete blocks and brick, which everyone does these days, it's still going to get torn down. You have to understand the physics of a tornado. Tornadoes break windows and the air gets inside the house and causes a draft causing the roof to rip off. This would still happen if your house was made out of bricks or solid steel. A tornado will rip your roof off if it gets inside. You could build a well designed wooden house with hurricane grade shutters over the windows and have very little effect from a tornado. It has more to do with the design of the structure than what you build it out of. If you designed your house like a perfect cone with no windows and a low ceiling, it would be near impervious to tornadoes. (Like this tornado probe):
[img]http://i.imgur.com/9K54z.jpg[/img]
Look at the pictures here. Concrete churches and department stores completely destroyed.
[url]http://www.insuranceproviders.com/joplin-tornado-damage-photos/[/url]
Steel structures are not spared either.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/iGvSY.jpg[/img]
[editline]2nd December 2011[/editline]
It's all about keeping the wind out of the building.
[editline]2nd December 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lemonator;33514198][img]http://www.homefurnituremag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010-03-Modern-Concrete-House.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Those windows would be blown out and anything inside would be sucked out. Not a good tornado house at all. It would be turned into a wind tunnel.
[editline]2nd December 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lemonator;33517189]this house is tornado proof too
[img]http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/SafeHouse6.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
If you can close the doors fast enough, sure. Though if you have no warning it too, would be peeled back like a sardine can.
Large flat surfaces are also a danger. Gives the tornado more to blow against. In that case, stronger building materials would be helpful like this test:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXF44jBBwxU[/media]
That's only a cat 3 hurricane also. Note how the doors are open, allowing wind to get in. The normal house blew away before the windows gave way.
[QUOTE=SiMoN 23259;33506444]But think of the savings if they re build using sturdy materials. No re building in the long run.
A well built brick house with steel reinforcements will not fall against a tornado, maybe a few roof tiles missing.[/QUOTE]
You apparently have never seen the destructive potential of a tornado in-person. It is awe-inspiring.
A tornado went through the middle of Saint Louis several months ago (almost miraculously, nobody was killed), and everything within the course of its travel was simply leveled. The airport had to be shut down, because one of the terminals had its roof ripped off, and Lambert Airport is no rickety wooden structure. A warehouse beside the highway had a hole the size of a bus punched clean through its solid concrete side, and the warehouse beside it was simply gone. Historic brick buildings were torn apart like pebbles. The tornado started in the woods, and its path was clearly marked by the barren, churned Earth where massive old trees had been torn out by the roots (those whose roots had held were snapped like balsa). The winds were so terrifyingly strong that there were reports of vehicles being flung about like missiles.
A van picked up and flung by the tornado ends up on the roof of Lambert Airport.
[img]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk37n1b0D61qztsh3o1_500.png[/img]
A brick building decimated by tornado winds
Another
[img]http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/lsx/recent_event/05_10_2003/Ely1.jpg[/img]
An entire neighborhood of brick buildings simply ceases to exist after a tornado touches down in Joplin (Over 100 dead):
[img]http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/tornado052411/t01_24132567.jpg[/img]
I could do this all day.
The point is, a tornado is a massively destructive force of nature. Until you've seen one yourself, you truly could not imagine its true destructive potential. Short of bunkers sunk beneath the ground, almost nothing can withstand them. It doesn't matter whether you put wood, brick, or steel reinforced houses down; in the path of a tornado they might as well be playing cards and toothpicks.
[QUOTE=SiMoN 23259;33506444]But think of the savings if they re build using sturdy materials. No re building in the long run.
A well built brick house with steel reinforcements will not fall against a tornado, maybe a few roof tiles missing.[/QUOTE]
Right, let's just put steel enforcements in all homes! That way they'll last forever!
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