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Illustration I cranked out last night. Got it scanned in today. [img]http://i.imgur.com/4RdcE.jpg[/img] Illustration based on a modern interpretation of the old Netherlandish proverb "to fill the well after the calf has drowned." Essentially, it means to fix something after it's too late. I went for something DEEP with lots of COMMENTARY to please the professor. [img]http://i.imgur.com/wpQQ7.jpg[/img] This was ink wash and digital retouching. It was really rushed and I'm not as happy with it.
[QUOTE=Galago;36965030]Illustration I cranked out last night. Got it scanned in today. [img]http://i.imgur.com/4RdcE.jpg[/img] [/QUOTE] i really like this one
[IMG]http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/209/4/b/4bc6686a97ffbf71b0c384dda596d966-d58y9a9.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Frying Dutchman;36965424][IMG]http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/209/4/b/4bc6686a97ffbf71b0c384dda596d966-d58y9a9.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] i really like the purple in this picture
i saw this really neat style today and i wanted to do something like it [t]http://www.deviantart.com/download/317449894/hmph_by_juniez-d5901wm.png[/t]
[QUOTE=mac338;36963227]I thought painting actually required paint though. In photography, "photo" doesn't disappear when the medium changes, but in painting "paint" [I]does[/I] disappear.[/QUOTE] late reply: no, painting is a method. you can paint with ink or other mediums and you can definitely paint digitally
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;36971958]late reply: no, painting is a method. you can paint with ink or other mediums and you can definitely paint digitally[/QUOTE] Yeah I always considered it painting because the process itself is much more similar to traditional painting than traditional drawing.
At art school we're encouraged to question the idea of drawing. Drawings can be simple pen and paper drawings, or sculpture mock-ups, prototypes, painting colour thumbnails before you begin the real painting, etc. It's all just in the way you talk about it.
but that kind of definition seems to imply that a drawing is not a completed work.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;36972261]but that kind of definition seems to imply that a drawing is not a completed work.[/QUOTE] If that's how an individual wants to define drawing in relation to their practice then sweet as. I tend to define drawing as any planning or problem solving that goes towards the final piece, whether its' idea generation, design iteration, figuring out problems with composition, figuring out ideas for colours, etc. [editline]28th July 2012[/editline] Arrg I have done so much work as of late but I can't show you guys cos it's all programming I will turn my code into a sculpture and take a photograph one sec
[QUOTE=mac338;36963227]I thought painting actually required paint though. In photography, "photo" doesn't disappear when the medium changes, but in painting "paint" [I]does[/I] disappear.[/QUOTE] In the same way that drawing requires graphite or ink or charcoal? By your logic how can you call digital painting just "drawing"
[QUOTE=Maloof?;36972357]If that's how an individual wants to define drawing in relation to their practice then sweet as. I tend to define drawing as any planning or problem solving that goes towards the final piece, whether its' idea generation, design iteration, figuring out problems with composition, figuring out ideas for colours, etc. [editline]28th July 2012[/editline] Arrg I have done so much work as of late but I can't show you guys cos it's all programming I will turn my code into a sculpture and take a photograph one sec[/QUOTE] Aren't those usually called sketches?
it's all just terminology that often varies from person to person the function and processes of the activities are still the same
One dude in my class told me he doesn't like digital work "because it's not real" I was kind of at a loss for words so I just stopped talking to him
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;36972701]One dude in my class told me he doesn't like digital work "because it's not real" I was kind of at a loss for words so I just stopped talking to him[/QUOTE] I dislike it sometimes because you don't get a one-of-a-kind physical object out of it as you would a painting. There's discussion at the moment about whether or not this reduces its worth (and like all discussions within art, there will never be any agreement on the matter). For me digital art is great because I can develop much faster in terms of colour choices and whatnot, and its also more forgiving. I dislike it because unless you have traditional skills, your ability to create art is dictated by whether or not you have access to a computer and, more importantly, electricity. Much harder to do paintings on-location when you're a digital artist, due to lack of a power source, the often nasty quality of laptop screens, etc
Plus it takes a true planning genius to create something with oils. No ctrl + z, so you better have figured our your layers beforehand. Traditional art requires more skill even if you paint acrylic, however handy-work isn't what art is about. Art is, in my mind, more about the product's ability to induce emotions and/or deep thought. And that can be done just as well in digital. Nonetheless, I like the look of oil paintings, I like the smell of oil paintings and I like the challenge so I really want to start doing that myself. I just want to get better first, so I'll practice in digital.
I've never tried oils; I like wet-in-wet a LOT (probably why I try to leave a lot of looseness in my digital stuff) but the prospect of waiting hours between coats doesn't sit well with me
Another thing I want to try is acrylic on velvet.
[QUOTE=mac338;36972855]Another thing I want to try is acrylic on velvet.[/QUOTE] I dunno what the benefits of using different materials would be. I mean the way I paint I tend to cover the entire canvas with several layers, so I wouldn't even be able to see the velvet.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;36972642]it's all just terminology that often varies from person to person the function and processes of the activities are still the same[/QUOTE] what's the point of language if we can just make up what the definitions are? a drawing, a painting and a sketch mean different things. a sketch isn't necessarily a drawing or necessarily a preparation for a work of art, but it has a definition that is understood. a sketch is defined as being "rough". drawing is an action, a process. so is painting. we don't just get to say this or that is a drawing or painting. terminology varying from person to person means that somebody is using it wrong.
[QUOTE=mac338;36972819]Plus it takes a true planning genius to create something with oils. No ctrl + z, so you better have figured our your layers beforehand.[/QUOTE] I'm guessing you mean acrylics, oils can be removed and manipulated for a long while after application Aside from which (I can't speak for anyone but me here but what that's worth), I don't really use ctrl Z when I'm working digital. At least not when I'm warmed up a little, my left hand stays on ctrl S pretty much the whole time once I've "gotten into" whatever I'm doing.
No, but the fact that it's all different layers you can do in whatever order you want, and that you can turn it all off and on and that you don't have to mix colors makes it a lot easier.
With oils the order you put down colour really has impact on future colour layers you put down. Underpainting (similar I guess to doing a monochromatic digital painting) is often used to get the values in there and then colours painted over the top. Depending on what you're doing you can do glazes to give a previously dull colour a real vibrancy. Also with oils the pigments you use have a physical effect on the colours above; some tones are more 'fatty' than others in chemical makeup. The rule is 'lean before fat' or the other way around, I'm not sure. But the order in which you put down colours has a big effect on how well the painting physically holds itself together.
[QUOTE=Frying Dutchman;36965424][IMG]http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/209/4/b/4bc6686a97ffbf71b0c384dda596d966-d58y9a9.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Is that the wisp from Brave?
[QUOTE=MenteR;36923653][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/IMG_013510.JPG[/img][/QUOTE] I like the rendering but the balance is off, it looks like it's falling backwards.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;36973041]what's the point of language if we can just make up what the definitions are? a drawing, a painting and a sketch mean different things. a sketch isn't necessarily a drawing or necessarily a preparation for a work of art, but it has a definition that is understood. a sketch is defined as being "rough". drawing is an action, a process. so is painting. we don't just get to say this or that is a drawing or painting. terminology varying from person to person means that somebody is using it wrong.[/QUOTE] Well it depends on the area you work in and the training you've had. Arts are very unlike other standardised industries in that each teacher or movement or school will have a different methodology, a different set of theories and different ways of explaining things. Also different terminology for different things.
[QUOTE=mac338;36973129]No, but the fact that it's all different layers you can do in whatever order you want, and that you can turn it all off and on and that you don't have to mix colors makes it a lot easier.[/QUOTE] I think most digital painters who are reasonably good at what they do would probably sketch their piece out and then paint over it, all on the same layer. They might make a backup, but.. I suppose what I'm trying to say is you can follow the exact approach you would take with a physical painting if you want to, it's down to the individual. Colour mixing is pretty essential for accomplished digital work though, on the canvas at any rate, and traditional artists can just buy the colours they want in tubes if need be. Plus some people might have trouble working on a tablet as opposed to the precision of putting a brush to a physical canvas under your hand, so you could argue it's easier in that respect. I think you have just acquired a dim view of digital painting from listening to your peers. It is not the case that every digital artist takes a hundred tries at everything they do and works in fifty layers and is extra-safe and inhibited about everything. Painting digital can be just as free and just as difficult as traditional, it's down to you.
wow what happened in the previous pages, why did my "rat" come back
[QUOTE=D3TBS;36974960]wow what happened in the previous pages, why did my "rat" come back[/QUOTE] that was a deer [editline]29th July 2012[/editline] have you even seen a rat before
[QUOTE=D3TBS;36974960]wow what happened in the previous pages, why did my "rat" come back[/QUOTE] If you say ratâ„¢ one more time without asking me for permission I'm going to sue you.
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