[t]http://i.imgur.com/3nwpI.png[/t]
[t]http://mjcdn.motherjones.com/preset_16/Verizon.jpg[/t]
Poor thing's legs are broken.
Not meant to be serious in any way shape or form.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;34718670]that's fucked up[/QUOTE]
my girlfriend's been dealing with some asshole client for a few days now, at this point he hasn't contacted back in two days.
first part-
[QUOTE=daijitsu;34598960]that client (graphic design but this happens as photographers just as much)
my girlfriend put out an ad for doing graphic design, making logos and such. She got in an inquiry and she talked with him about her rates and how much work she'd have to put in. at a base of ~$16 hourly (usually a minimum for any graphic design work), she estimated 4 or 5 hours of work based on how much the guy wants and providing leighway for making changes after giving the first suggested drafts of logos, coming out to roughly $60-80 for two solid concepts for the guy's logo with his direct input on changes.
[quote]Thanks [sp]blank[/sp] I'll get back to you in the near future if I decide to use your services.
BTW, your logo design rate is higher than what I thought it might be. Just, FYI, here's what I have found on the Internet so far in terms of what professional logo design websites are willing do to design work for -
[url]http://www.createlogodesign.com/order3.htm[/url]
($29 upfront, $70 to proceed further after initial designs) - 4 designs
[url]http://www.fastfreelogo.com/?gclid=CNO1lN_zjK4CFQe8KgodsylTgQ[/url]
$38 - 2 designs, pay only if you like the design
[url]http://promo.logodesigncopyright.com/[/url]
$58 - unlimited designs
[url]http://logodesignguarantee.com/?gclid=CLv3kJr0jK4CFS6FQAodOXOGew[/url]
$49 - 6 designs
[url]http://www.logoinn.com/?gclid=COKzrZv0jK4CFaYAQAod5BjYdQ[/url]
$68 - 3 designs
Regards,
[sp]blank[/sp].[/quote]
These are all those kind of sketchy sites that outsource their work and just recycle vectors out of their library (usually rips of existing logos), and slap them on the client's name with a few tweaks. This is genuinely insulting, I hate when people pull that shit[/QUOTE]
The guy says he's just starting his company, and hasn't made revenues so he can't afford much. She was suspicious and figured he was trying to guilt her, so we asked a friend with some connections to do his research. He's been around for over a year, has 1-2 employees, and made 80,000 last year with the company, so fuck him. Still, she finally settled for a deal of $65 for 3 concepts (matching one of those crap stock-regurgitating sites' deals) and allowing revising one to his tastes after review. A little less money is better than none at all, and he'd probably walk away and find some other student to do it if she was even a little stubborn. May as well just deal with it.
here's my choice of the lot (excuse the watermarkin', didn't want to just hand over a clean sheet of logos)
[img]http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3871/screenshot2012021521350.png[/img]
After putting together a total of [i]five[/i] concepts based on his previous guidelines (just to be sure) and sending them out, he responds:
[quote]Hi [sp]blank[/sp],
Thank you for your first attempts.
Could we try a few more designs? None of the current designs capture what I was envisioning. I have attached some links to some interesting ones I found on the internet by searching google for "elephant logo"...perhaps these could help spark some more ideas....
Also, I would like the elephant to look more "majestic" than "cute" or "kiddish" or "cartoonish". I do like the idea of keeping the design simple but I think the shape of the elephant currently does not show it in a majestic way - something I would like to try.
Here are some links that (with replacing the elepant with your own rendition + replacing the text with my company name) I am able to imagine my logo being similar to.
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=DWnEmiKyfB6WXM:&imgrefurl=http://www.biz-logo.com/examples/057a.shtml&docid=j9gw8x4LJTeFFM&imgurl=http://www.biz-logo.com/examples/057.gif&w=490&h=342&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=b-mQ8mkATIfbnM:&imgrefurl=http://mynty.deviantart.com/art/3-Eye-Elephant-Logo-135858613&docid=RyB9M2yVUp4FGM&imgurl=http://www.deviantart.com/download/135858613/3_Eye_Elephant_Logo_by_Mynty.png&w=1650&h=1275&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=311&sig=100153499993738646807&page=1&tbnh=145&tbnw=188&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0&tx=66&ty=39[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=7M74029QugvARM:&imgrefurl=http://www.soselephants.org/&docid=x-0Ylrtrzu6r_M&imgurl=http://www.soselephants.org/images/SOS-Logo_50.gif&w=239&h=240&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=215&sig=100153499993738646807&page=1&tbnh=150&tbnw=149&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:0&tx=77&ty=99[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=DlrSXlVc24JT2M:&imgrefurl=http://logos.co/design/royalty-free-vector-logo-of-a-red-and-white-elephant-by-patrimonio-549&docid=9sl-OrW9qNKUnM&imgurl=http://logos.co/1024/royalty-free-vector-logo-of-a-red-and-white-elephant-by-patrimonio-549.jpg&w=1024&h=1044&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=SUcAntDoEhaKJM:&imgrefurl=http://www.seeklogo.com/tag.html%3Fq%3DElephant&docid=-DeVDypgdZQzzM&imgurl=http://www.seeklogo.com/images/E/Elephant-logo-58B9723292-seeklogo.com.gif&w=200&h=200&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=eCXU6rswgumUFM:&imgrefurl=http://mehranmahmoudi.deviantart.com/art/White-Elephant-Logo-142080192&docid=IoWQt_BOCJ5L4M&imgurl=http://www.deviantart.com/download/142080192/White_Elephant_Logo_by_Mehranmahmoudi.jpg&w=556&h=519&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=iFwjr6VOeqp1FM:&imgrefurl=http://www.mmofratrombeadproject.com/Partners.aspx&docid=Qjx0QAel0qXifM&imgurl=http://www.mmofratrombeadproject.com/Portals/0/PartnerLogos/Elephant%252520Walk%252520Logo%252520-%252520single%252520elephant.jpg&w=1800&h=1044&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=248&sig=100153499993738646807&page=3&tbnh=106&tbnw=182&start=45&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:45&tx=107&ty=71[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=gNHSzyQK8TaGIM:&imgrefurl=http://richworks.in/2010/03/30-logo-designs-with-creative-use-of-negative-space/&docid=OT57BEkegvuI3M&imgurl=http://richworks.in/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/1-kolner-zoo.jpg&w=600&h=250&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=U875kUfdZ_OLcM:&imgrefurl=http://www.remyfurniture.com/elephant-dog-bed-ultimate-comfort-dog-bed-by-elephant-p-419.html&docid=qprtsMlkdof5yM&imgurl=http://www.remyfurniture.com/images/elephant_logo.gif&w=137&h=128&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=294&sig=100153499993738646807&page=4&tbnh=102&tbnw=109&start=70&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:24,s:70&tx=63&ty=90[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=UEMplLja1xMXHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.victoriafalls-guide.net/elephant%27s-walk-shopping-centre.html&docid=jAur2Fb8uo7KoM&imgurl=http://www.victoriafalls-guide.net/image-files/elephant-walk-logo.jpg&w=1081&h=381&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=303&sig=100153499993738646807&page=5&tbnh=84&tbnw=237&start=95&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:18,s:95&tx=99&ty=13[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=JSjcn8JluSaD9M:&imgrefurl=http://www.theyinspire.com/blog/comments/bad-creative-or-bad-brief-i-blame-the-client/&docid=w_kD1LqccKYLFM&imgurl=http://www.theyinspire.com/images/uploads/image/Industrial_Alliance__logo.jpg&w=300&h=167&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=359&sig=100153499993738646807&page=5&tbnh=106&tbnw=190&start=95&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:22,s:95&tx=133&ty=16[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=ePJcl2Rmy1eKVM:&imgrefurl=http://www.tonycece.com/2011/03/elephants-a-new-logo/&docid=aVoJ7Td3_Daq9M&imgurl=http://www.tonycece.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Tony-Cece-Logo-Gray-e1299884284953.png&w=900&h=240&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=127&sig=100153499993738646807&page=6&tbnh=53&tbnw=197&start=120&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:21,s:120&tx=141&ty=43[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=6NR0h-T9L8RWaM:&imgrefurl=http://www.7slash6.com/%3Fportfolio%3Dblue-elephant-logo-design&docid=1xlMkG24P1HIYM&imgurl=http://www.7slash6.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/blue-elephant-logo-concept-1-gallery.jpg&w=800&h=480&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=nLTlNLFpOBPx-M:&imgrefurl=http://www.designtreasure.com/2010/12/30-elephant-logo-design-inspiration/&docid=NVl08dB0Bm6WsM&imgurl=http://www.designtreasure.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Elephant%252520logo%252520design%252520inspiration%25252013.png&w=325&h=260&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=342&sig=100153499993738646807&page=1&tbnh=150&tbnw=232&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0&tx=106&ty=78[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=859&tbm=isch&tbnid=kQDWZHr5zmXy-M:&imgrefurl=http://www.elephantjournal.com/2009/11/how-to-eat-an-elephant-part-3-getting-beyond-naked-yoga/elephant-journal-logo-image-logo/&docid=VbxPIVgDubj6JM&imgurl=http://images.elephantjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/elephant-journal-logo-image-logo.png&w=856&h=647&ei=mAE3T-XFOsLqtgfwwNiXAg&zoom=1[/url]
Thanks,
[sp]blank[/sp].[/quote]
son of a BITCH one of them even looked like the logo I posted, and another was like on its own level of kiddish/childish/cute.
I'm watching this guy's site to see if he ends up getting someone to clean up a copy of our concepts
Can't tell what is watermark and what is logo.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;34720562]Can't tell what is watermark and what is logo.[/QUOTE]
when dealing with someone who's obviously trying to schmooze you over for as little pay as possible, it's best to slather shit all over your work so they can't just go "oh neat I'll just erase this bit over here and don't need to pay!"
it's a reasonable thing to do with proofs, but dumb if it's on things that are just for show like your portfolio or online gallery of random junk
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12913216/Screenshots/9.9.PNG[/img]
Had a lot of fun with this.. might try again to see if I can get a perfect score
i can get the colours perfect but i dont do well under pressure!!!!
I think that's the point of the exercise
since when would you need to pick colours under such intense pressure???
lol it's an exercise to help you see colors faster.. generally working on things faster is better in the artworld. This sort of thing is helpful for color study speed paints.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;34722198]since when would you need to pick colours under such intense pressure???[/QUOTE]
art terrorists with paintball guns
Please stop posting that color picking test.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;34722331]art terrorists with paintball guns[/QUOTE]
the horror
[QUOTE=Rusty100;34722198]since when would you need to pick colours under such intense pressure???[/QUOTE]
the red wire or the blue wire!?!
theres a bomb in this thread if we dont stop posting as fast as we can the thread will EXPLODE
is it a ban bomb
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59476659/works/rustyisgoingtodieanyway.png[/img]
Not fast enough
[QUOTE=Juniez;34712561]5 years and 100[/QUOTE]
I thought it was 2 years, I guess it was raised. Also I remember I had 27,000 posts before the posts were archived and everyone's postcount went down. :P
[QUOTE=PLing;34722903]I thought it was 2 years, I guess it was raised. Also I remember I had 27,000 posts before the posts were archived and everyone's postcount went down. :P[/QUOTE]
Does that mean I'll be gold in the 25th? :o
I made some more paintings in watercolor.
[IMG]http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/047/b/9/iron_sky_soldier_by_lieutenantawesome-d4pwbxl.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/047/5/4/assault_robot_v2_by_lieutenantawesome-d4pwbrz.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/047/1/0/john_bauer_troll_by_lieutenantawesome-d4pwbf6.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/047/3/f/tussilago_coltsfoot_by_lieutenantawesome-d4pwc3q.png[/IMG]
The last one is lovely
I like the blue robot.
I'm thinking about making a thread for 'Creature of the week' same as on conceptart.org
the winner of each week could make a new description of a creature etc
Anyone interested? :v
[editline]2th february 2012[/editline]
if someone else could be the OP it would probably be better since i'd make it less interesting so
[QUOTE=Detlef;34716131]urp!
[url]http://romanticallyapocalyptic.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Lookin great, only problem is that 6th frame down, the colours/shading etc don't seen that right around the head and horns
[url]http://romanticallyapocalyptic.com/art/71.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE=Xephio;34723969]I'm thinking about making a thread for 'Creature of the week' same as on conceptart.org
the winner of each week could make a new description of a creature etc
Anyone interested? :v[/QUOTE]
I am! But how would the voting work?
[QUOTE=pansarkurt;34723988]I am! But how would the voting work?[/QUOTE]
Ratings sounds the most efficient way to do it
[QUOTE=Xephio;34723969]I'm thinking about making a thread for 'Creature of the week' same as on conceptart.org
the winner of each week could make a new description of a creature etc
Anyone interested? :v
[editline]2th february 2012[/editline]
if someone else could be the OP it would probably be better since i'd make it less interesting so[/QUOTE]
I think some friendly competition would be nice around here
[QUOTE=salmonmarine;34724947]I think some friendly competition would be nice around here[/QUOTE]
I don't think it would work out to be honest.
We have had competitions in the past, and in the first one we have a decent number turn up but few actually finish. They either get distracted or discouraged.
Then after this first one, either the competition creators fail to keep the topic rolling or no one enters the next one.
We have a huge skill gap in this community that would also get in the way. Conceptart.org has a huge number of members all with a mostly secular focus while facepunch has diversity in it's art objectives and also has much younger members who are still learning. It would be good practice for them, but a small group of facepunchers would consistently win, kind of ruining the whole point of calling it a competition.
I think we are too few, last time we tried to make do something community based it died out after one week.
Might have better luck with a tutorial-based thread with a new theme every week. The more developed artists around here could take turns explaining a bit about how they would draw a tree or a lamp or something, then everyone would submit their own attempt within the week. That way everyone would learn from each other and most of the competitive motif would evaporate.
[img]http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2824/camerakarenvignette.jpg[/img]
I am bored out of my fucking skull and have a tendency to spend too much time on useless projects, please help me.
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