No, but I'm going to search for them the next time I'm out. Thanks <3
Pilot G-2 all day every day
[QUOTE=Rusty100;37490119]Everyone else trying to improve is constantly starting new drawings and paintings and gradually getting better, but the majority of things I see from you are cartoon doodles expressing how difficult you are finding progressing, and every once in a while redrawing one of your things. If you really are trying to improve I'm not sure you're going about it very well[/QUOTE]
My friend, nobody but me sees the vast majority of the things that I draw.
Here are some examples:
[url]http://i.imgur.com/tNkJd.png[/url]
[url]http://i.imgur.com/KeD7X.png[/url]
[url]http://i.imgur.com/PuDte.png[/url]
[url]http://i.imgur.com/xXXsO.png[/url]
I like redrawing old things because, when I draw things, I have a mental image. I measure my skill as an artist by how close I can get to that mental image -- and you can probably sense that I get closer and closer to it with every drawing. In order to do that, I HAVE to practice. I have to do studies, reference images for how things look, learn to construct human anatomy. My workspaces these days look like this, generally:
[url]http://i.imgur.com/8SC46.jpg[/url]
When you see me improve, that isn't just happening for no reason. I'm not just hopping levels on a whim. It's all sweat and twizzlers (ever since they started selling the big packs at a place nearby for $2 man, you don't even know), and my only concern is that I could be doing more. Of course, I'm always trying to do more. Sometimes I get kinda depressed about the pace of my improvement, and sometimes I feel like I'll never be as good as the artists I admire because of some limitations in my visual/spacial intelligence, or at least in my mode of thinking, or maybe my personality and inhibitions -- on days I get like that, I draw 3 times as much as I normally would.
Point being, I assure you that I am trying to improve, and always welcome and act on any advice or critique that I get. Usually I have to rely on self-critique because I don't get much here. I imagine it's because people remember that I wasn't very receptive when I first started.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;37480152]Rate Useful if you read this.[/QUOTE]
Lol, not one person rated me useful. No one read it. :v:
[QUOTE=The Aussie;37491124]No one read it. :v:[/QUOTE]
We did warn you :(
[QUOTE=lucky;37491119]
When you see me improve, that isn't just happening for no reason. I'm not just hopping levels on a whim.[/QUOTE]
I think Rusty's point was that we haven't seen you improve very much
Your headspace of thinking that improvement is an impenetrable wall reflects the unsuitable learning process you've chosen I think - trying to force concepts out of your head/from a pile of refs cobbled together is unlikely to give you good results without the fundamentals and intuition that some straightforward representational life drawing and photo studies would help you with in leaps and bounds
[IMG]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/245/c/3/clouds_by_zacharyhogan-d5d9z9g.jpg[/IMG]
Tried to refine my forms a bit more clearly; now the building feels a bit too stiff. Aesthetic is hard
I'm liking the clouds though. I started with a square brush and built them with that; was really stoked. Then I went in with a textured brush and made it ten times nicerer
the clouds still look a bit too harsh for me. And maybe you could place a small almost transparent cloud in front of the building
yeah, try using a different brush for them, square brushes tend to make everything look a little hard edged
By the way I wholly support your new avatar idea Mal, that one is pretty bottom-end
[QUOTE=Lilyo;37489513]Does anyone who have a sketchbook know if you should put something over each sketch like a paper or whatever that wont smudge the drawing cause all my old drawings end up getting smudged on the opposite paper and i hate it. Im trying to keep this new sketchbook clean[/QUOTE]
Spray fixative is your best bet, it's not cheap but it'd probably last you ages
@VMan which/what tablet are you using?
[QUOTE=lucky;37491119]My friend, nobody but me sees the vast majority of the things that I draw.
Here are some examples:
[url]http://i.imgur.com/tNkJd.png[/url]
[url]http://i.imgur.com/KeD7X.png[/url]
[url]http://i.imgur.com/PuDte.png[/url]
[url]http://i.imgur.com/xXXsO.png[/url]
I like redrawing old things because, when I draw things, I have a mental image. I measure my skill as an artist by how close I can get to that mental image -- and you can probably sense that I get closer and closer to it with every drawing. In order to do that, I HAVE to practice. I have to do studies, reference images for how things look, learn to construct human anatomy. My workspaces these days look like this, generally:
[url]http://i.imgur.com/8SC46.jpg[/url]
When you see me improve, that isn't just happening for no reason. I'm not just hopping levels on a whim. It's all sweat and twizzlers (ever since they started selling the big packs at a place nearby for $2 man, you don't even know), and my only concern is that I could be doing more. Of course, I'm always trying to do more. Sometimes I get kinda depressed about the pace of my improvement, and sometimes I feel like I'll never be as good as the artists I admire because of some limitations in my visual/spacial intelligence, or at least in my mode of thinking, or maybe my personality and inhibitions -- on days I get like that, I draw 3 times as much as I normally would.
Point being, I assure you that I am trying to improve, and always welcome and act on any advice or critique that I get. Usually I have to rely on self-critique because I don't get much here. I imagine it's because people remember that I wasn't very receptive when I first started.[/QUOTE]
No wonder your improvement is so slow and very lacking overall.
You're drawing unproprtionized cartoon figures with bizarre colour palettes and blurry brush work.
I suggest you pick up some pen and paper and go through this list of art sites that's been posted quite a bit lately. You need to learn the fundamentals of art if you're seriously thinking about improving.
[url]http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/[/url]
[url]http://how-to-art.tumblr.com/[/url]
[url]http://fyeaharttips.tumblr.com/[/url]
[url]http://artutorials.tumblr.com/[/url]
[url]http://learninganatomy.tumblr.com/[/url]
[url]http://human-proportions.tumblr.com/[/url]
[url]http://amazinglyartisticadvice.tumblr.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.ctrlpaint.com/[/url]
[url]http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm[/url]
[url]https://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/home[/url]
[url]http://www.sycra.net/[/url]
[url]http://www.fengzhudesign.com/tutorials.htm[/url]
[url]http://artsyposes.com/[/url]
[url]http://idrawgirls.com/[/url]
[url]http://analyticalfiguresu08.blogspot.fr/[/url]
pretty much what dgg said. although it's nice you're trying to do interesting and original things, you don't have the basics down yet at all. you're not gonna improve in your random doodlings if you don't understand:
a. what stuff like people and buildings actually look like
b. how these things are built and function
c. colour theory
d. how to paint with higher opacity brushes so your paintings aren't blurry
e. how to paint texture
even if you're dead good at
f. being really imaginative and trying really really hard
you're not gonna get very far. basics first, style later
I would like to point out that if someone wants to draw cartoony stuff they should do it. Not everyone needs and/or wants to learn how to draw anatomically correct portraits.
[QUOTE=Inufin;37494588]I would like to point out that if someone wants to draw cartoony stuff they should do it. Not everyone needs and/or wants to learn how to draw anatomically correct portraits.[/QUOTE]
Any cartoonist, especially animators, will tell you that you absolutely need the fundamentals of anatomy, perspective, proportions and light down before you can start making cartoons.
Cartoon figures are proportionally exaggerated human beings or animals. They're based on realistic anatomy and proportions, they just exaggerate the formulas. Look up "The Animator's Survival Kit" by Richard Williams
Simply put; it's a fucking insult to any professional cartoonist to say what you just said.
It's like all the indie games that uses bad pixel art graphics as a "homage to 8-bit retro days" when they really just can't draw and completely ignore that their art is 10x worse than the 8-bit graphics they homage, since those retro 8-bit graphics tried to be as realistic as they could within their colour palette constraints. It's a downright insult to all the work that was put into the games.
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3655193/The%20Animator%27%20Survival%20Kit%20P23.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Inufin;37494588]I would like to point out that if someone wants to draw cartoony stuff they should do it. Not everyone needs and/or wants to learn how to draw anatomically correct portraits.[/QUOTE]
Clueless, no offence
[QUOTE=Lilyo;37489513]Does anyone who have a sketchbook know if you should put something over each sketch like a paper or whatever that wont smudge the drawing cause all my old drawings end up getting smudged on the opposite paper and i hate it. Im trying to keep this new sketchbook clean[/QUOTE]
you can spray hairspray on it and let it dry, no kidding
[QUOTE=Inufin;37494588]I would like to point out that if someone wants to draw cartoony stuff they should do it. Not everyone needs and/or wants to learn how to draw anatomically correct portraits.[/QUOTE]
As someone who do "cartoony stuff", I find your sentence to be pretty bullshit.
[editline]1st September 2012[/editline]
That's also the kind of sentence I see from every amateur trying to justify their flaws.
[QUOTE=Inufin;37494588]I would like to point out that if someone wants to draw cartoony stuff they should do it. Not everyone needs and/or wants to learn how to draw anatomically correct portraits.[/QUOTE]
Never start by focusing on your style.
You can't base a stylization off of nothing, now can you?
[QUOTE=Maloof?;37493855][IMG]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/245/c/3/clouds_by_zacharyhogan-d5d9z9g.jpg[/IMG]
Tried to refine my forms a bit more clearly; now the building feels a bit too stiff. Aesthetic is hard
I'm liking the clouds though. I started with a square brush and built them with that; was really stoked. Then I went in with a textured brush and made it ten times nicerer[/QUOTE]
Goddammit you're my favorite artist ever.
I'm wrong. Feel free to continue hating me.
No one's hating you, but your shitty attempt at a guilt trip isn't helping.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;37494570]pretty much what dgg said. although it's nice you're trying to do interesting and original things, you don't have the basics down yet at all. you're not gonna improve in your random doodlings if you don't understand:
a. what stuff like people and buildings actually look like
b. how these things are built and function
c. colour theory
d. how to paint with higher opacity brushes so your paintings aren't blurry
e. how to paint texture
even if you're dead good at
f. being really imaginative and trying really really hard
you're not gonna get very far. basics first, style later[/QUOTE]
Maybe I have been disingenuous, come to think of it. At least somewhat disingenuous, which there's absolutely no point in being. Either way, I need to start hauling ass and doing things the right way.
From now on, I mean, starting today.
[QUOTE=D3TBS;37485776][t]http://i.imgur.com/vM4SG.jpg[/t]
I was playing with this paperclip while reading an article. After a while, I looked at it, and said to myself ironically "What a piece of art!". I threw it on the table and there I noticed the dollar sign in the shadow. Now I know for sure, that I am a true artist, because the God of Art spoke to me this way, saying I would make loads of money with paperclip twisting.[/QUOTE]
"One's man trash is another man's treasure"
~~ARTSY~~
now you just need to download instagram and put on some kawaii effects and it will be finished
more square brushes
[img]http://www.deviantart.com/download/324690200/robot_by_juniez-d5db8k8.png[/img] [img]http://www.deviantart.com/download/324549283/phone_by_juniez-d5d87tv.png[/img]
Is there a way to change what pen pressure does in photoshop? (making either colors darker/brighter, or the brush thiner/smaller, or fade in/out)
Because currently all my brush does is make either a very light color or a far more heavy, with no wiggle room between them.
[QUOTE=lucky;37496147] doing things the right way[/QUOTE]
i dunno i wouldn't like to call it that. i'd call it the way to develop efficiently in the most proven and typical way. i don't think there's a "right way" in art because that's not what art is about, but if you look through history it appears that pretty much every 'successful' artist (either commercially or in legacy) learnt the basics first
[editline]1st September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Juniez;37498393]more square brushes
[img]http://www.deviantart.com/download/324690200/robot_by_juniez-d5db8k8.png[/img][/QUOTE]
nice work but CA is hella gay