[QUOTE=gothiclampshade;37622646]Just a little something to keep the gears going
[t]http://i.imgur.com/mGkAU.jpg[/t]
Quite large, sorry[/QUOTE]
It's very nice, but your inconsistent perspective has made him a giant
Yeah, i was just about to comment on that.
Art classes n shit is fun, the school has a ridiculously high standard, my traditional work is at C level here at best.
Getting an A is almost impossible, but I'm gonna try.
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795535/angle_DA.png[/img]
before anyone ask, yes I do like to draw angel men with cloth barely covering their junk.
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;37621973]Here's some knowledge for you, creationism theory hasn't been viable for hundreds of years[/QUOTE]
I'm non-theistic, don't worry.
i like the strong lines in his silhouette det and of course the rendering but my issue with the painting is that all the different elements look pasted on
Damn, Detlef. That looks amazing. I really love how you made the arm and face!
I have no idea if this is something you consider a finished piece or a WIP, but there's a few issues I noticed.
First of, I'm not quite sure I understand his upper torso - The front of the chest and the neck seem really strange to me, and for some reason my eyes want me to place the entire center of his torso more to the front of the viewer which kinda messes with my whole perception of the piece. I also think there might be an issue with the hand grasping the spear - It doesn't seem like he's in contact with that object at all.
There's a few bits and pieces with the cloth flying around but I'm not sure I can give any advice on that.
Can anyone point me in the direction of that pose site. It gives a bunch of options, like Male only, Female only, Clothes, Unclothed and all that stuff.
I think it was Pixel something (Pixellovey?) and I remember seeing someone post it in CC but I wasn't ab;e to book mark at the time.
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;37624166]It's very nice, but your inconsistent perspective has made him a giant[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up, are either of these any better?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/zJCoS.jpg[/t] -rate informative
[t]http://i.imgur.com/9aEn6.jpg[/t] -rate useful
Niether- rate disagree
Although admittedly it just looks like varying degrees of giant to me now
nope, still looks like a giant
Welp, suppose it's nothing some cropping can't fix. I'll try and focus on perspective a bit more next time I rough an image out
Separate the surface that the C.P is standing on so that it no longer joins with the ground around the building?
Maybe he isn't a giant. Maybe the buildings are just really small :v:
[QUOTE=gothiclampshade;37629163]Thanks for the heads up, are either of these any better?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/zJCoS.jpg[/t] -rate informative
[t]http://i.imgur.com/9aEn6.jpg[/t] -rate useful
Niether- rate disagree
Although admittedly it just looks like varying degrees of giant to me now[/QUOTE]
This might help:
[url]http://www.scribd.com/doc/10338/Andrew-Loomis-Successful-Drawing[/url]
[img]http://puu.sh/14a7k[/img]
[img]http://puu.sh/14a7R[/img]
[img]http://puu.sh/14a8b[/img]
[img]http://puu.sh/14a8t[/img]
It's not hard to understand if you read it all carefully. Do construction first, drawing/painting second.
fast redline.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wpbHo.png[/IMG]
the horizon is your eye level, the men in the bg is the scale you should go for.
Personally I really like the mighty and powerful expression having him as a giant gives.
But Detlef made some really good pointers which you should absolutely take in mind since it wasn't intentional to fuck up the perspective like that. If you learn the technique to get perspective down you could also break the rule and make a person intentionally larger, rather than by accident.
lower the horizontal line, and you can get the effect of him being huge and the people in the bg being tiny.
[QUOTE=Detlef;37631451]fast redline.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wpbHo.png[/IMG]
the horizon is your eye level, the men in the bg is the scale you should go for.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty damn informative, thanks
So ideally, it should have looked something like this
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Gx4OL.jpg[/t]
That looks much better realistically but as dgg says, that sort of towering menace is lost a little. I'm not going to faff with this any more but I think it's been a fairly good learning piece, thanks for your input.
i still struggle a ton with perspective, i dont feel like loomis explains it that well. anyone got any other books for that?
More noodling with my character ideas for Paul Bunyan and Jack Beanyan
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2319552/CharSketches.jpg[/img]
I think I'm settled on Jack's design, or at least his face. I'm not really sure on Paul quite yet. Anyone have comments?
[QUOTE=Barnhouse;37633211]i still struggle a ton with perspective, i dont feel like loomis explains it that well. anyone got any other books for that?[/QUOTE]
there was a really good thread about it on CA, but the site is down for maintenance right now, ill find it when it's up again.
Don't your art uni have a perspective class?
[editline]12th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=gothiclampshade;37633071]That's pretty damn informative, thanks
So ideally, it should have looked something like this
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Gx4OL.jpg[/t]
That looks much better realistically but as dgg says, that sort of towering menace is lost a little. I'm not going to faff with this any more but I think it's been a fairly good learning piece, thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]
move him further to the right, the composition is too left heavy right now.
[QUOTE=Detlef;37634183]
Don't your art uni have a perspective class?
[/QUOTE]
Nah. There's a weekly life drawing class, that's about it. Your uni is far more drawing skills oriented than mine. Mine is more "here's your assignment, see you a couple of months".
[QUOTE=gothiclampshade;37633071]That's pretty damn informative, thanks
So ideally, it should have looked something like this
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Gx4OL.jpg[/t]
That looks much better realistically but as dgg says, that sort of towering menace is lost a little. I'm not going to faff with this any more but I think it's been a fairly good learning piece, thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]
As Det pointed out the composition is wrecked in this revision. I probably would have kept the figure the same size, erased the whole background and rebuilt it around him
[QUOTE=Barnhouse;37633211]i still struggle a ton with perspective, i dont feel like loomis explains it that well. anyone got any other books for that?[/QUOTE]
I would recommend looking for some comic art books. The how-to books for comics (at least the good ones) usually have nice sections on perspective I haven't found in most of my other drawing books (which focus more on just teaching you how to draw stuff right on it's own)
[QUOTE=Barnhouse;37633211]i still struggle a ton with perspective, i dont feel like loomis explains it that well. anyone got any other books for that?[/QUOTE]
I like the online course "Structure of Perspective". It covers a lot of stuff. It's pretty cheap too.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/mxJ5I.jpg[/IMG]
art
[QUOTE=gothiclampshade;37633071]That's pretty damn informative, thanks
So ideally, it should have looked something like this
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Gx4OL.jpg[/t]
That looks much better realistically but as dgg says, that sort of towering menace is lost a little. I'm not going to faff with this any more but I think it's been a fairly good learning piece, thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]
Put some debris or something on the ground to show the perspective of the ground too, right now it looks like a shiny slab of undefined size since it's illuminated evenly. Or just make that building give a shadow so it breaks the shine a bit.
[QUOTE=yumyumshisha;37641386]art[/QUOTE]
If you say so.
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