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[QUOTE=pMnky;37867386]More depressing stuff. [img]http://uppix.net/5/2/7/86cb9a9eb0e1ef21a1d3e82e336bd.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Copying and pasting is alright in certain situations; here I would have lassooed some of the limbs and shifted em, slightly messed with the sillhouettes a little too
I am looking for a bit angled brush for photoshop, i tried to search on google last night but couldn't find any. Can someone link me to one?
Can you elaborate? I don't understand 'bit angled'
[QUOTE=Maloof?;37867713]Can you elaborate? I don't understand 'bit angled'[/QUOTE] I found a picture. It's the one highlighted! [IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/2j2c37c.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=pMnky;37867386]More depressing stuff. [img]http://uppix.net/5/2/7/86cb9a9eb0e1ef21a1d3e82e336bd.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] If you're going to copy paste, at least change the highlights so it's not so incredibly obvious.
[QUOTE=TH89;37864387]I like it, although the a couple things bother me: -The perspective seems off on the three guys in the background. I feel like they should be getting smaller than they are as they recede. I could be wrong though. Also the way you have the nearest one fully rendered and then abruptly go to silhouettes without much discernible lighting difference is kind of jarring. -The ground itself looks sloppy. The round brushwork in the shadowed areas makes it look flat (on the plane of the computer screen, not on the ground plane) and the total lack of detail makes me wonder what I'm looking at. Is it a street? If so there should be sidewalks, streetlights, trash cans, stuff that streets have. Even a large alley would have a bunch of stuff in it. Right now it looks like everything is covered with sand, except the cops are walking around on top of it. The rest of your drawing is detailed very nicely so why not do the same with the ground?[/QUOTE] Thanks for the input, is this any better? [t]http://i.imgur.com/PWyI3.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;37867625]I love the idea but all the copy/pasting ruins it for me a bit[/QUOTE] He did move the arms and the islands are all different. I see it as a way of expressing continuity rather than cheating.
[QUOTE=PLing;37869538]He did move the arms and the islands are all different. I see it as a way of expressing continuity rather than cheating.[/QUOTE] For me the differences aren't significant enough; the overall form of the figures is the same and at initial read they're identical I'd have messed with the waist angle and head tilt a bit
[QUOTE=gothiclampshade;37868621]Thanks for the input, is this any better? [t]http://i.imgur.com/PWyI3.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Yeah that's a lot better. The ground isn't super nice to look at still but now I can instantly get a sense of place from it. I think I have just two minor issues with it now--the furthermost figure has really wonky proportions. His feet are huge. It looks like you referenced the two combine and then kinda just doodled some people in the background, and the difference in the correctness of the anatomy definitely shows (especially on the last guy, as I said). Other thing is the dotted road markers aren't centered. If you're feeling more ambitious, something worth trying would be to google up some reference of Moscow streets or something and add in all the stuff that's missing--correct road markings, streetlights, power lines, signs, etc. There's a ton of stuff on any given street that we don't remember when we try to draw "a street" but that will make a big difference in how genuine it feels to the viewer. As it stands you have a pretty serviceable street, one that doesn't distract too much from the main figure, and if you pack too much detail in the bg you risk diverting the eye maybe. So it might be worth experimenting.
[QUOTE=PLing;37869538]He did move the arms and the islands are all different. I see it as a way of expressing continuity rather than cheating.[/QUOTE] to add to this it reads strongly as graphic design and not a drawing/painting so the repetition looks fine imo
[QUOTE=PLing;37869538]He did move the arms and the islands are all different. I see it as a way of expressing continuity rather than cheating.[/QUOTE] I had to examine closely to discover that they weren't identical I should have to look closely to discover that copy/pasting occured imo I didn't say it was cheating, you just pick up on pasted elements in art very easily and it undermines the value of the work for me. But expressing continuity by copy/pasting? That sounds pretty silly and pretentious
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;37870432]it undermines the value of the work for me.[/QUOTE] if you feel a process is undermining the value of a (serious) work then that's p silly. [QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;37870432]But expressing continuity by copy/pasting? That sounds pretty silly and pretentious[/QUOTE] what??? it's totally a valid way to do continuity. and calling it pretentious is a p big fuckin stretch m8
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;37870505]if you feel a process is undermining the value of a (serious) work then that's p silly.[/QUOTE] Ok let's all trace whatever we like, people will value it all the same apparently because process doesn't matter? [QUOTE=DOG-GY;37870505]what??? it's totally a valid way to do continuity. and calling it pretentious is a p big fuckin stretch m8[/QUOTE] I'm not saying repeating an element via copy/paste is pretentious, I'm saying Pling's post sounded pretentious, since he projected this "expressing continuity" idea onto this work when the artist probably didn't think about that whatsoever and just pasted the figure four times to achieve the composition he wanted.
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;37871134]Ok let's all trace whatever we like, people will value it all the same apparently because process doesn't matter?[/QUOTE] this is [I]really [/I]clearly not what i was talking about. [QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;37871134]I'm not saying repeating an element via copy/paste is pretentious, I'm saying Pling's post sounded pretentious, since he projected this "expressing continuity" idea onto this work when the artist probably didn't think about that whatsoever and just pasted the figure four times to achieve the composition he wanted.[/QUOTE] uh thats not really how the word pretentious is supposed to be used but ok. it also makes a lot of assumptions. how do you know what the artist intended or thought?? i mean really what is wrong about pasting something multiple times? seriously its ludicrous to suggest that it's bad design because it just factually isn't. it's just the most basic example of continuity. if it's a lazy cop out then it's clear that it was a poor design choice, but it doesn't seem like that's the case here. Any artist with a brain would see the ability to copy and paste the same content as a tool or asset rather than a sign of a crutch.
critique isnt supposed to be based on personal preferences or views Mako
Personally I don't mind the copy pasting at all. But I really mind how the copy-pastes doesn't have their light fixed to follow the same light source. It ruins the piece for me.
yeah but the distorted lights etc will look right in some situations like the one he posted, it looks like an album cover with space for the name in the top left and reads nicely as one
Had a bunch of framed artwork left around from my shows over the last semester so I decided to go on a hanging spree in my bedroom. Obviously I didn't do the Salvador Dali print, but it is an original Salvador Dali Don Quixote, one of my best thrift store finds [img_thumb]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/ajackss/hanging_spree.jpg?t=1349124873[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/ajackss/sdsd.jpg?t=13491248673[/img_thumb] Also, coming at the end of the week is the cure to all my entertainment woes. [img_thumb]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/ajackss/THX.jpg?t=1349126461[/img_thumb] Before it arrives I'll have constructed my center-channel wall shelf (no wallmounts here, the center-channel weighs over 30 pounds) Also along with it is a 1000w rack amp for my subwoofer and a second 1000w amp to run two BTK LFE Bass transducers that are going to be mounted inside my sofa for the full imax style experience, totally excited.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;37873491]Had a bunch of framed artwork left around from my shows over the last semester so I decided to go on a hanging spree in my bedroom. Obviously I didn't do the Salvador Dali print, but it is an original Salvador Dali Don Quixote, one of my best thrift store finds [img_thumb]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/ajackss/hanging_spree.jpg?t=1349124873[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/ajackss/sdsd.jpg?t=13491248673[/img_thumb] Also, coming at the end of the week is the cure to all my entertainment woes. [img_thumb]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/ajackss/THX.jpg?t=1349126461[/img_thumb] Before it arrives I'll have constructed my center-channel wall shelf (no wallmounts here, the center-channel weighs over 30 pounds) Also along with it is a 1000w rack amp for my subwoofer and a second 1000w amp to run two BTK LFE Bass transducers that are going to be mounted inside my sofa for the full imax style experience, totally excited.[/QUOTE] Ah yes you're the one with the dreamy workstation, Cool to see everything else has a similar flow
Another build of the sidescroller game nearly finished. A couple of issues related to me not knowing exactly how to program the stuff I want, so there are a few bugs and whatnot. There's a memory leak in there somewhere too haha [url]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/83454840/Cardigan4.html[/url] The graphics and everything aren't put in the game just yet [editline]2nd October 2012[/editline] And the text-hints are placeholders; they'll fade in and fade out based on proximity in the final game
Whew. Took a little longer on this piece than I normally do for warmups. Not sure if I want to call it finished or not, depends on whether I can get the motivation and time. [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30622781/His%20Concubine.jpg[/img]
[img]http://uppix.net/b/c/1/32554701c4ec188db14a54370a46c.jpg[/img] Added a few colors, different islands, tweaked the pose/anatomy of the statues and some geometry to reinforce the meaning. Still WIP though
[QUOTE=pMnky;37877701][img]http://uppix.net/b/c/1/32554701c4ec188db14a54370a46c.jpg[/img] Added a few colors, different islands, tweaked the pose/anatomy of the statues and some geometry to reinforce the meaning.[/QUOTE] Are the reflections all supposed to be the same?
[QUOTE=kepper;37876464]Whew. Took a little longer on this piece than I normally do for warmups. Not sure if I want to call it finished or not, depends on whether I can get the motivation and time. [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30622781/His%20Concubine.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Funny how seeing other people work in your own style can make you realise the prominence of the issues in your own style. I get a clearer picture of what I need to work on in my own painting by looking at yours. Neat! I would suggest that you use harder brushes or clean up your edges to make them harder. I know you're probably going for a speed-paint, concept-art style but the blurriness of the edges breaks it a bit. I often see quite 'messy' (but BEAUTIFUL) concept art pieces; look at them again and see how hard their edges often are when it comes to defining things. Even when they're doing several layers of low-opacity to build up forms, I think they still use quite hard-edged brushes. Your composition is a bit shaky too; there's not a lot to direct the eye, and the vibrant reds, yellows, blues and greens don't really relate much. Otherwise it's awesome
Obviously not mine, but whoever made this is fucking fantastic at calligraphy [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcQPAHKxbQU&feature=related[/media] Absolutely beautiful! Figured it was worth posting. [editline]2nd October 2012[/editline] Also, every time I draw, I realize that my drawings, while not necessarily shit, have wildly distorted perspectives and proportions, disfigured anatomy..., and I can clearly see it; I am not fooled into thinking that my art is perfect. However, the simple fact that this happens to me every time I attempt to draw, and that I am either not improving, or improving at a galactically slow rate, constantly discourages me from continuing to try to improve. Why do I find that I am able I look at professional art and take note of the characteristics that make it great, and with an attentive and observant eye set pencil to paper, but find myself helplessly unable to recreate it? [editline]2nd October 2012[/editline] Can anybody recommend some good pencils/drawing pad for me to buy as well as a book or two on drawing topics such as anatomy, perspective, shading, basic elementary things? I just realized that I don't even have the art supplies that I used to draw with anymore, which is a damn shame because I had some really good supplies there. [editline]2nd October 2012[/editline] Or any website I can browse for good quality art supplies at a decent price even
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9OqPT.jpg[/IMG] Damn he looks "flat". And the hand was sloppy.
thats hella cool, pmnky
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;37871597] uh thats not really how the word pretentious is supposed to be used but ok.[/QUOTE] This should be good, do elaborate? [QUOTE=DOG-GY;37871597]it also makes a lot of assumptions. how do you know what the artist intended or thought??[/QUOTE] That was precisely the point I was making about Pling's post. [QUOTE=DOG-GY;37871597] i mean really what is wrong about pasting something multiple times? seriously its ludicrous to suggest that it's bad design because it just factually isn't. it's just the most basic example of continuity. if it's a lazy cop out then it's clear that it was a poor design choice, but it doesn't seem like that's the case here. Any artist with a brain would see the ability to copy and paste the same content as a tool or asset rather than a sign of a crutch.[/QUOTE] It's not inherently bad design. It's bad when it sticks out like a sore thumb and carries inconsistencies through the work. After all I was always talking about that revision of that particular piece. The issue is more or less fixed in PM's update, though the light on the figures is still troublesome [QUOTE=Detlef;37871718]critique isnt supposed to be based on personal preferences or views Mako[/QUOTE] Aesthetically it was flawed, I don't view copy/pasting as some sort of stigma. Anyway I used the phrase in my opinion iirc, it's not like I was pretending to be infallible.
[QUOTE=pMnky;37877701][img]http://uppix.net/b/c/1/32554701c4ec188db14a54370a46c.jpg[/img] Added a few colors, different islands, tweaked the pose/anatomy of the statues and some geometry to reinforce the meaning. Still WIP though[/QUOTE] i'd put this on my wall
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;37881081]i'd put this on my wall[/QUOTE] You're probably the first person ever on this thread to show appreciation of a work by not proposing sexual intercourse with its author or the piece itself haha! Thank you
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