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Can you post the reference and your full drawing? I'll try helping you.
[QUOTE=Lilyo;38422285]Can you post the reference and your full drawing? I'll try helping you.[/QUOTE] [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/60302-15.jpg[/img] adding the painting screenshot for easier comparation [img]http://screencloud.net/img/screenshots/5ab152d8de7a302f4e25adb0bb4bc089.png[/img]
it looks grassy which is good but looks oversaturated which is bad, but might be good depending on the rest of the picture
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7346219/Arts/New/pugnebulawip2.jpg[/IMG] just a work in progress; I really like the nebula bit but it draws so much focus off the pug. I was hoping it would make an okay mixed media piece but it looks like I'll have to paint the spaceship too which could very easily go wrong. Gulp. updated the photo c:
[QUOTE=Robbobin;38423416][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7346219/Arts/New/pugnebulawip.jpg[/img] just a work in progress; I really like the nebula bit but it draws so much focus off the pug. I was hoping it would make an okay mixed media piece but it looks like I'll have to paint the spaceship too which could very easily go wrong. Gulp.[/QUOTE] Sparkly~ If it were up to me, I wouldn't paint the spaceship.
Yeah I don't really want to. On the one hand, if I manage to pull it off and suggest the hull is really shiny it might look awesome, but on the other hand, I'll probably make it into an awful incoherent mess. If I don't do it I'm tempted to outline the nebula so it's a bit more coherent overall. Any thoughts?
You might want to have the spaceship surrounded on all sides by the nebulae.
[IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/21mrn94.png[/IMG] I have no idea what I'm doing and need guidance.
was listening to this and wanted to paint another study kinda thing [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II4BCkGNtgs[/url] [img]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/317/f/f/saw_the_flags__japanese_by_chestymcgee-d5kwkp3.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/317/2/0/waterarchon_by_boogeymoon-d5kwnhm.png[/IMG] WIP
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;38422312][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/60302-15.jpg[/img] adding the painting screenshot for easier comparation [img]http://screencloud.net/img/screenshots/5ab152d8de7a302f4e25adb0bb4bc089.png[/img][/QUOTE] Ok well first of all, the picture is way too saturated, light, and bland. It lacks contrast and it just boring over all, not a good study to help you learn how to render things properly. Also, know that everything anyone says is just helpful tips to help you improve and you won't magically improve just by getting criticism and doing a few edits or something. You need to keep practicing and the only way to actually get better is to allow yourself to move into areas of study and to work with different techniques than you're used to. I'm just going to show you how I do things (sometimes). I have a messy style, but you can add your own thing to it. I did this really quickly so it might not be the best example in the world... First of all get better reference images. You need strong values and defined shapes to help you understand how to draw properly. [IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img23/2133/84446821.png[/IMG] Then start with a sketch. Don't fool yourself into thinking you can jump directly into the rendering or coloring. You need to first learn perspective and form before actually rendering the objects and environment. [IMG]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2782/59827471.png[/IMG] Then on a new layer, draw a few of the shadows and highlights to give you a better idea of what is what and where the lighting is coming from. This will be helpful when you apply your colors. [IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img267/1365/22463377.png[/IMG] This step is a bit iffy, but it's how I do it. On a new layer, start drawing in the colors and include shadows and highlights as per your previous layer. Your drawing won't look too flattering by the end but it will help you with rendering better. Don't worry too much about values and hues for now. [IMG]http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1008/44991755.png[/IMG] Now on another layer start refining the hues and values, as well as the shadows and highlights. By now you should have a strong feeling of what's going on in your piece. [IMG]http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/193/76006663.png[/IMG] Now that you have all that done, go on a new layer and start rendering and refining objects in detail. This is where you should be spending the most time on. Add textures in (do not use filters), highlights, etc. to get a finished piece. Make sure to work with only 100% hardness brushes and somewhat high opacity (50% or so most of the time, lower when you want to have smoother gradients). Never use the smudge tool. Experiment with your own style as well. [IMG]http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1048/73190580.png[/IMG] Like I said this is just how I do things usually, but it might be helpful and I find that it helps you in more than just one area of study. Eventually you'll develop your own style and gain more control over your technique and all that, but for now stick to the basics.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;38424590]was listening to this and wanted to paint another study kinda thing [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II4BCkGNtgs[/url] [img]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/317/f/f/saw_the_flags__japanese_by_chestymcgee-d5kwkp3.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Excellent lighting on the planes. For a second, I thought they were superimposed.
Fanart I did to train a bit : [IMG]http://uppix.net/a/5/f/3a7e22d9d0008965f354aea87fdb0.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Lilyo;38425086]Ok well first of all, the picture is way too saturated, light, and bland. It lacks contrast and it just boring over all, not a good study to help you learn how to render things properly. Also, know that everything anyone says is just helpful tips to help you improve and you won't magically improve just by getting criticism and doing a few edits or something. You need to keep practicing and the only way to actually get better is to allow yourself to move into areas of study and to work with different techniques than you're used to. I'm just going to show you how I do things (sometimes). I have a messy style, but you can add your own thing to it. I did this really quickly so it might not be the best example in the world... First of all get better reference images. You need strong values and defined shapes to help you understand how to draw properly. [IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img23/2133/84446821.png[/IMG] Then start with a sketch. Don't fool yourself into thinking you can jump directly into the rendering or coloring. You need to first learn perspective and form before actually rendering the objects and environment. [IMG]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2782/59827471.png[/IMG] Then on a new layer, draw a few of the shadows and highlights to give you a better idea of what is what and where the lighting is coming from. This will be helpful when you apply your colors. [IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img267/1365/22463377.png[/IMG] This step is a bit iffy, but it's how I do it. On a new layer, start drawing in the colors and include shadows and highlights as per your previous layer. Your drawing won't look too flattering by the end but it will help you with rendering better. Don't worry too much about values and hues for now. [IMG]http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1008/44991755.png[/IMG] Now on another layer start refining the hues and values, as well as the shadows and highlights. By now you should have a strong feeling of what's going on in your piece. [IMG]http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/193/76006663.png[/IMG] Now that you have all that done, go on a new layer and start rendering and refining objects in detail. This is where you should be spending the most time on. Add textures in (do not use filters), highlights, etc. to get a finished piece. Make sure to work with only 100% hardness brushes and somewhat high opacity (50% or so most of the time, lower when you want to have smoother gradients). Never use the smudge tool. Experiment with your own style as well. [IMG]http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1048/73190580.png[/IMG] Like I said this is just how I do things usually, but it might be helpful and I find that it helps you in more than just one area of study. Eventually you'll develop your own style and gain more control over your technique and all that, but for now stick to the basics.[/QUOTE] Thanks a whole lot. I didn't expect myself to magically improve. It's not like I don't practice. But do you know that feeling, when somebody explains you how to do something and doesn't describe these little steps that seem obvious to him? For example, in a tutorial on MySQL usage I saw "navigate yourself to the following folder and type...". Forgot that I am a retard newb and don't know that you need a special command to navigate to a folder? That's what I feel all the time. You finally gave me a hint to stuff.
[IMG]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mddyr2VTGG1r3svwqo1_1280.gif[/IMG] I drew a piggy pig
[thumb]http://s8.postimage.org/gscm2ef9h/IMAG0119.jpg[/thumb] Thread title material
Progress, but I'm having a hard time with depth. Can someone help me out? [img]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6619/cavernwip.jpg[/img] [editline]12th November 2012[/editline] I'm thinking of going over with dodge and burn afterwards to really play with the light.
i wouldn't recommend dodge and burn it can really ruin your colours terribly you're better off working more darks and lights into it with your standard painting method (the rocks on the left can go a lot darker, especially to distinguish the two that look like they're merging into each other) if you're still unsatisfied i recommend using the colour balance tools on the collapsed painting (use the separate highlights/shadows options) and maybe using an overlay layer to add extra colour/light (maybe with gradients too)
I've found dodge and burn helpful in some instances, especially where I need to deepen a shadow and a multiply layer isn't doing the job But yeah I'd think about where this is; in a cave? I'd darken that entire region to the left of those spiky rocks and the same to the right. Try this; make a new layer and zoom out a bit so that the image is only half as big as it normally would be when you're painting. Then just mess around with different shapes and colours and values. The thing to do here is not think too much; just make some fast decisions without analysing. We tend to over-think a lot and this stops us from doing anything. Sometimes it's better to just make a whole bunch of stuff (or in this case, make a whole bunch of decisions) and then go back and do all the analysis and judgement afterwards
Does anyone have any recommendation for a sale price for hernando the wonderpug? Annoyingly the exhibition takes 30% commission which seems awfully steep but I'm sure the people perusing it will be more serious buyers. I'm tempted to email the organisers but if I can I'd like to avoid looking like a totally ignorant tool. :v: here's a scan of the image btw if anyone is interested [url]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7346219/Arts/New/pugnebula.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;38426021]Thanks a whole lot. I didn't expect myself to magically improve. It's not like I don't practice. But do you know that feeling, when somebody explains you how to do something and doesn't describe these little steps that seem obvious to him? For example, in a tutorial on MySQL usage I saw "navigate yourself to the following folder and type...". Forgot that I am a retard newb and don't know that you need a special command to navigate to a folder? That's what I feel all the time. You finally gave me a hint to stuff.[/QUOTE] Try to stop being so negative on yourself, confidence play a huge role in a lot of pieces - don't have confidence and what do you have? Lack of self motivation and reluctance to improve. It's one of the things that hinders me (and I also need a better workspace than what I currently have (excuses :v:))
[QUOTE=Robbobin;38427975]Does anyone have any recommendation for a sale price for hernando the wonderpug? Annoyingly the exhibition takes 30% commission which seems awfully steep but I'm sure the people perusing it will be more serious buyers. I'm tempted to email the organisers but if I can I'd like to avoid looking like a totally ignorant tool. :v: here's a scan of the image btw if anyone is interested [url]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7346219/Arts/New/pugnebula.jpg[/url][/QUOTE] If I ever start a band I am so using "Pug Nebula."
[QUOTE=Robbobin;38427975]Does anyone have any recommendation for a sale price for hernando the wonderpug? Annoyingly the exhibition takes 30% commission which seems awfully steep but I'm sure the people perusing it will be more serious buyers. I'm tempted to email the organisers but if I can I'd like to avoid looking like a totally ignorant tool. :v: here's a scan of the image btw if anyone is interested [url]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7346219/Arts/New/pugnebula.jpg[/url][/QUOTE] Don't be afraid of asking advice! Every artist starts off knowing nothing about anything I did a national award show a couple of years back and despite it generally being full of experienced artists, the museum was fine with me asking advice on prices and whatnot. That being said, it also never hurts to ask others who've done the same sort of thing!
it makes me happy that the thumbnail looks like it's shooting frosting rather than nebulae. [editline]13th November 2012[/editline] if I can get some philosophy out of the way I'm going to do another similar painting. haven't decided on the exact contents, just something with more nebulae. I was thinking maybe a hot air balloon, but instead of a balloon it's just a nebula tied to a basket? :v:
I'm a little concerned about the 'Robbobin' right in the middle of the image though; normally I don't mind a name or signature in the corner of the image, but having your name neatly written out and quite obvious seems a bit off to me
True! Annoying there's nothing I can do about it now but I'll definitely be more careful in future. I should probably try to work on some kind of signature that isn't just me sloppily writing out my pseudonym too. :v:
[QUOTE=Robbobin;38428144]True! Annoying there's nothing I can do about it now but I'll definitely be more careful in future. I should probably try to work on some kind of signature that isn't just me sloppily writing out my pseudonym too. :v:[/QUOTE] Nah the name is fine! Although I'm quite partial to those Chinese-name-stamp-style signatures that are a really nice square format. I want to find my own neat little stamp/mark/signature
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/nOQwC.png[/IMG] she fallin
Hold onto that copter hat!
Felt like drawing a pose a bit different from the standing-still-arms-along-body that I usually draw, came up with this [t]http://i.imgur.com/d7Ley.png[/t] And the unpolished basic pose WIP before because why not [t]http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2012/46/1352774459-fucksdoodle.png[/t]
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