• Do you support cloning of animals and humans?
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I'll just say the idea of human cloning fascinates me and leave it at that. Part of me just wants to see a human clone for the sake of it. I feel oddly dirty admitting this. [editline]19th January 2011[/editline] I wouldn't regard clones as anything other than normal people : what reason would I have to think otherwise?
Why would you feel bad for admitting that you want to see a human clone, what is wrong with that?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;27525758]Why would you feel bad for admitting that you want to see a human clone, what is wrong with that?[/QUOTE] I have no idea! I think it just exposes how taboo the subject is in our society :o [editline]19th January 2011[/editline] Or how taboo I perceive it to be. [editline]19th January 2011[/editline] Which is stupid, because you're right, there's nothing strange about wanting to see a clone. That was the whole point of me posting the twins picture.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;27525500]Why not just grow the organs without having to go through the hassle of having a clone? As I said previously, it's ethical, cheaper, quicker, and utilizes pretty achievable technology. Whereas a clone is controversial, hideously expensive, takes a while to fully grow, and utilizes technology we don't really have.[/QUOTE] I don't think this is possible [editline]19th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;27525515]Yes what a hassle who wants to bother with the kicking and screaming and pleading[/QUOTE] They won't scream unless you kill them before the operations or put them on some sort of type V nerve agent
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;27526186]I don't think this is possible [editline]19th January 2011[/editline] They won't scream unless you kill them before the operations or put them on some sort of type V nerve agent[/QUOTE] Ok that was just creepy. Secondly, the same way organs grow in the human body, albeit using the buyer's stem cells. Why build the car when you only want the radio?
Making organs doesn't work that way. If you want to buy the car it requires that you buy the radio or the radio will not work properly.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;27526557]Making organs doesn't work that way. If you want to buy the car it requires that you buy the radio or the radio will not work properly.[/QUOTE] All organs just grow that way due to stem cells and a bunch of chemical indicators, they've proven you can grow new ears, corneas, and spinal tissue with stem cells, why not a new heart?
When I grow up, I'll clone myself. I want my kids to be like me.
JohnnyMo's smashing everyone down! BITCHES GOT SERVED!
Even making a clone braindead has moral complications. Would you want to be born that way without choosing for yourself? Just to be used as a "field" for organs? Like Canuhearme? is saying, we can already farm organs WITHOUT actually making entire humans, so let's do that.
[QUOTE=Penultimate;27528615]Even making a clone braindead has moral complications. Would you want to be born that way without choosing for yourself? Just to be used as a "field" for organs? Like Canuhearme? is saying, we can already farm organs WITHOUT actually making entire humans, so let's do that.[/QUOTE] If you were actually braindead you wouldn't even know you existed [editline]19th January 2011[/editline] but I agree with you.
[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;27524974]But children are not clones. A clone is a copy of a person of animal that already exists and not a child who can become someone completely new. Perhaps clones can get their own identity but only time will tell.[/QUOTE] obviously they would be able to have their own totally unique sense of self as every other sentient being has.
Cloning animals doesn't seem too bad but cloning humans is fucked up we have too many of them at the moment
How about just cloning the organs instead of the whole human? Oh and cloned animals taste just like normal animals :buddy:
I think we should clone organs so we can replace them in the future. I don't know what the method is, but there's a method being developed that will allow us to grow organs in a lab that are identical to the person's who gave the genetic information to grow them. Transplants with these organs will probably allow humans to live for a very long time, and there is no full cloning required. Animals are less complicated than humans, though. Cloning them probably will not have the same effects as cloning sentient, complex beings. [editline]19th January 2011[/editline] Although, this could create a perfect sociological experiment for the "nature vs. nurture" argument. Place one clone with a poverty stricken neighborhood, and the other in a suburban neighborhood. Although, it seems that there are a select few people who are genetically programed to be successful in all situations if there's even the slightest possibility, so it would need to be done with multiple subjects.
Well for starters there are a lot of humans as is, so cloning would make it really awkward for the clones I'd imagine. Assuming they got mind and shit So go ahead and clone mammals or resurrect them, I mean I cannot even imagine the world like 1000 years from now, it must be quite something
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;27526680]All organs just grow that way due to stem cells and a bunch of chemical indicators, they've proven you can grow new ears, corneas, and spinal tissue with stem cells, why not a new heart?[/QUOTE] Ah, yeah I looked it up. You're right.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;27524701]We could always just grow clones that are braindead from the start for organ harvesting and that.[/QUOTE] Yeah because giving birth to a braindead clone baby that's made for organ harvesting is OBVIOUSLY better.
[QUOTE=mars7a;27530466]Yeah because giving birth to a braindead clone baby that's made for organ harvesting is OBVIOUSLY better.[/QUOTE] Well I think it is considering that essentially it doesn't even properly exist or live. If we grow clones that are braindead and are only alive because they are hooked up to some machine then we should be able to harvest the body.
If human cloning cloning were to ever exist, there would be an ungodly amount of religious protestors. (No pun intended.)
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It'll be okay, until they start overpopulating. Clones making clones, soon clones will turn evil and try to take over humanity
[QUOTE=jesse194;27533628]It'll be okay, until they start overpopulating. Clones making clones, soon clones will turn evil and try to take over humanity[/QUOTE] There is around 7 billion people I think that's the least of the worry's of cloning.
[QUOTE=jesse194;27533628]It'll be okay, until they start overpopulating. Clones making clones, soon clones will turn evil and try to take over humanity[/QUOTE] Don't teach them science, then. [editline]19th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;27532223]Well I think it is considering that essentially it doesn't even properly exist or live. If we grow clones that are braindead and are only alive because they are hooked up to some machine then we should be able to harvest the body.[/QUOTE] Yes. This. Once they're in their capsules or whatever, well will inject them with some hourly doses of EA-3167
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;27534022] Yes. This. Once they're in their capsules or whatever, well will inject them with some hourly doses of EA-3167[/QUOTE] How is this different to The Matrix.
Can we make a starwars movie with this :q:
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;27535057]How is this different to The Matrix.[/QUOTE] Heh. Doesn't seem like it is any different. But, we're not putting them in another world, we're just injecting them with some non-lethal nerve gas from time to time.
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