[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;24455714]Yes true. Hitler didn't look at what happened when Napoleon went into Russia, and the Nazis got fucked.
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:godwin:[/QUOTE]
Hitler was also a dumb crazy motherfucker who couldn't strategize his way out of a walmart.
[QUOTE=FuckingHellshit;24455909]I am so glad I am white.[/QUOTE]
I am so white I am glad.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;24455913]Hitler was also a dumb crazy motherfucker who couldn't strategize his way out of a walmart.[/QUOTE]
Who made taking over Western Europe and systematically killing millions of civilians seem like a walk on the beach.
I'm black and I'm as smart as the average goof. The black image is a bit silly nowadays though, I think I should be the spokesperson for all black people. :clint:
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;24455898]I've met natives who don't like being called Indian, but that's understandable.[/QUOTE]
Personally I just say black, white, indian, and asian.
In return I'm not offended to be called white devil so it's all good.
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[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;24455936]Who made taking over Western Europe and systematically killing millions of civilians seem like a walk on the beach.[/QUOTE]
Killing minorities and getting angry stupid people to follow you isn't particularly hard if you have the cahones for it.
Just ask George Bush.
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;24455864]I've never met a black guy who prefers African American and I've never met an Indian who prefers Aboriginal.
Who are these people?[/QUOTE]
Do yourself a favor and don't ever meet them.
They're one of the PC extremists, and they must live closer to where I live.
Why am I not surprised to see a thread like this? To be honest, everyone is a bit racist no matter who you are or what you think, and thats a fact. People today honestly take what is said about them or their race and color too seriously. People are going to crack jokes about other races, I mean this forum is a UK forum and I occasionally see a thread or post here and there of America being dumped on. Do I care? No honestly I don't. Why should I be effected when someone calls Americans fat McDonald eating bastards? I weigh 135 pounds and don't eat fast food, So why should I get upset. Same thing works for skin color. If I crack a joke about a Asian or black guy in general, how does it effect them? It doesn't. I mean I have had black people call me cracker, I mean honestly why the hell should i care? Now I don't agree to people hurting others for differences in race physically because thats just dumb. We're all living breathing humans and there is no reason to do that to another person. Jokes and assumptions about races and colors are going to be made, but why should we honestly care? Unless someone specifically targets you and verbally puts you down, now thats a whole different story.
Thats my two cents.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;24455956]
Killing minorities and getting angry stupid people to follow you isn't particularly hard if you have the cahones for it.
Just ask George Bush.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't aware George Bush killed millions of minorities.
[QUOTE=Terragen;24456044]Why am I not surprised to see a thread like this? To be honest, everyone is a bit racist no matter who you are or what you think, and thats a fact. People today honestly take what is said about them or their race and color too seriously. People are going to crack jokes about other races, I mean this forum is a UK forum and I occasionally see a thread or post here and there of America being dumped on. Do I care? No honestly I don't. Why should I be effected when someone calls Americans fat McDonald eating bastards? I weigh 135 pounds and don't eat fast food, So why should I get upset. Same thing works for skin color. If I crack a joke about a Asian or black guy in general, how does it effect them? It doesn't. Now I don't agree to people hurting others for differences in race physically because thats just dumb. We're all living breathing humans and there is no reason to do that to another person. Jokes and assumptions about races and colors are going to be made, but why should we honestly care? Unless someone specifically targets you and verbally puts you down, now thats a whole different story.
Thats my two cents.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. We're all inherently bastards. There is no hope.
Now go push your senators to pour funding into NASA so we can find some actual intelligent life.
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[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;24456063]I wasn't aware George Bush killed millions of minorities.[/QUOTE]
Well we only had so much to capitalize on, I mean we just lost some towers, Germany itself was completely buttfucked back and forth.
You get out what you put in I suppose.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;24456074]Exactly. We're all inherently bastards. There is no hope.[/QUOTE]
Abandon hope all ye who enter here, it is foolish to try to solve problems. I mean, they're just problems.
Saying that they're impossible and ignoring them is [del]better[/del] easier.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;24456074]Exactly. We're all inherently bastards. There is no hope.
Now go push your senators to pour funding into NASA so we can find some actual intelligent life.
[editline]05:48AM[/editline].[/QUOTE]
Don't be an asshole, I never said there no hope. I actually think that someday this racist bullshit will just become one big giant joke. As yet it is starting to become that in todays society. I am just saying that anyone can sit there and scream to the heavens that they're not racist, but deep down there is something about someone that bugs them or bothers them.
Conservatives are dumb. daaamn
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;24456074]
Well we only had so much to capitalize on, I mean we just lost some towers, Germany itself was completely buttfucked back and forth.
You get out what you put in I suppose.[/QUOTE]
Wait what
To be honest, I never understood how saying nigger is racist.
Racism is discrimination by a rase afaik.
There is nothing discriminating if you call someone a nigger.
And then, If it [I]weould be[/I] racist, then why isn't racist calling someone white?
If I am wrong, I would be happy if someone explained this to me.
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I am not racist
[QUOTE=TH89;24454653]They applied for 1470 jobs, which is more than enough to get a ballpark figure. What you're basically saying here is "well, the minorities were denied the jobs, but how do we know that's not because they were inferior?" That's neither likely (especially given that the Princeton researchers explicitly selected people for their well-spokenness and level of education) nor is it supported by evidence. It's wild speculation.[/QUOTE]
If I took 3 people and had them apply for 1000 jobs. Person A got the most jobs, person B got the second most, and person C got the least. Would your first assumption be that the employer was racist against person B and C or that person A was the best at doing interviews.
It would have been much better if they had a lot of people interview at a smaller amount of jobs. That way there could actually be a spread of data and the ability of the individuals would be less important.
It also has nothing to do with being well spoken. Being good at interviews is a very specific skill.
[QUOTE=TH89;24454653]The same percentage of people were stopped. It's often quite difficult to ascertain the race or even sex of a person driving a car. That doesn't "ruin" the argument at all.
Go ahead and ignore that the white searchees are more likely to have contraband. Once again, your argument is purely speculative.
And some of that sounds like you're saying that it's okay for the police to treat all black people like criminals because there's a lot of impoverished black people. I hope that's not what you're saying.[/QUOTE]
Simply put, there just isn't enough info in this survey. For all I know 80% of the black people surveyed live in high crime areas where cops are more prone to check. It is speculative to make ANY conclusion based on the small amount of evidence provided.
Like you said, if less people are stopped of a certain color than it is statistically more likely that that color will have a higher success rate.
In all of my life experience black people are more likely to look like what one might think a criminal would look like. I don't know the reason behind it and I won't speculate the reason, but I would assume that cops see the same phenomena and would therefore be pulling black people over more because of how they are dressed as opposed to being black.
[QUOTE=TH89;24454653]...and any skewing in the "use" statistics is immediately offset by skewing in the opposite direction in the "arrests" statistics. Either way you want to look at it there's still a huge disparity in how people are treated based on race.[/QUOTE]
I would still argue skewing, but I don't want to get into it.
[url]http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_43.html[/url]
That's the 2008 crime data by race. If you look at the percentages the white percent hovers around 60-70% which is about the same as the white population. The black percent hovers around 30-40% which is much larger than the population percent.
This means that black people are more likely to commit crime (especially when excluding white collar crime as that doesn't really apply here). Look at the weapons/possession numbers. 53% whites 41% black. Is it not plain logic to take past experience when in a dangerous situation?
If I had two groups and anyone from group A is more likely to commit a crime based on all the information available at the time, would you be more careful around someone from group A?
[QUOTE=TH89;24454653]If you're going to contradict an official Human Rights Watch report I'm gonna have to see some actual sources.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_43.html[/url]
Alright, I was incorrect. It is 34% while for whites it is 63%. The black one is still proportionally much higher.
[QUOTE=TH89;24454653]Here you go: [url]http://pastebin.com/8bY9QkzL[/url][/QUOTE]
I can't find any of their sources... they cited them in a very vague way. So I still can't comment.
[QUOTE=TH89;24455127]"Black people work hard in order to succeed in life, they follow laws and try hard in school. Yea fucking right."
-Mr_Razzums
AN ENIGMA
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("please stop banning people that you do not agree with" - garry))[/highlight][/QUOTE]
Well that's TH89's second strike right there
Wonder when Garry will bowl him out
Woo, TH89 is gone for a week, TIME TO PARTY!!
You know,TH89 would have been better to be a gold member than remodded
I'd have to say, the whole black power thing is causing quite a bit of the modern day racism. It's just annoying and nobody takes it seriously, you just get arrested. Also TH, to most of us you are white (I think you look half Latino-half Caucasian.), your skin color certainly helps that factor, and you writing about all this just makes you look confused. Sorry bro.
I'm not even sure what this thread is about, now. It was originally about why TH89 banned for racism (that argument was torn apart by multiple people), then he edited the OP so the thread was about only the article and banned me, then people pointed out that the article is hypocritical and inflammatory
then justice happened
what now
I was watching something my dad had on and fell asleep watching, it was some news report about how Black approval of Obama was plummeting, and I thought- why does this matter? They gave some statistic that proved nothing also- We have a 9% unemployment rate in the US, and 16% of that 9% are black, and 40% of that 9% are teenagers, they worded it to make it sound like all black men were living in boxes with no jobs, I was annoyed at how stupid the whole thing was.
This thread was a good read.
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Somebody post a poll petition for the revocation of TH89's moderator status.
I'm black, here's my opinion:
For atheists, life originated in Africa so we're all black to some degree, no matter how low it be.
For Christians and Muslims who believe in God and Jesus or whatever, life originated with Adam and Eve so we're all white to some degree.
For people who believe in the Greek gods,(or pretty much any other religion besides the ones listed I think) we're all the same.
RACISM SOLVED IN THREE EASY STEPS
Well who's to say that Adam and Eve were white? We'll never know- although I personally don't believe in religions. Also isn't Jesus Middle-Eastern? (Don't Derail this thread, just pointing stuff out)
I honestly like to believe in Greek Gods simply because they have the most interesting and fun stories, and they're pretty bad ass.
If you get so butthurt over racism, why are you on the internet?
Well Adam and Eve are portrayed as white in most paintings and stuff, so I guessed
So TH89 got banned again? I'm very surprised Garry is giving him so many chances, I don't remember any other moderator getting so many chances.
I knew I was gonna get banned for this by TH89, but he's banned sooooooo
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY[/media]
would this video be racist?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZKZkC8u3_c[/media]
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