[QUOTE=Craigewan;17640475]It *Could* be an artistic impression of one of the Armaggeddon Steel Legions.[/QUOTE]
Based on how it looks, it seems to be a representation of Shock Troopers, possibly Cadian.
Why don't they just make movie adaptions of the Ultramarines novels?
[QUOTE=Ixius;17617452]Reading the Lexicanum and trying to understand WH40k is probably not the best way to get to grips with the universe; I'd definitely recommend reading some of the Black Library (the publishing wing of Games Workshop) fiction; most of it is outstanding, and genuinely helps you to understand what the universe looks like from the inside out.
That Space Marines-fighting-Tyranids thing was probably the Battle for Macragge, the Ultramarine home planet - it sounds like you read about Marneus Calgar (the "Chapter Master" aka superboss of the Marines) kicking ass.[/QUOTE]
Personally I played the games for a small introduction to just the blood angels. Then it grew to the books. Then it grew to reading the lexicanum for more background information on.
Which Games? Dawn of War? If so that's the Blood Ravens not Blood Angels.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;17644629]Which Games? Dawn of War? If so that's the Blood Ravens not Blood Angels.[/QUOTE]
Don't they both have a mutation in the Gene-seed that results in them desiring blood, hence their name?
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;17644629]Which Games? Dawn of War? If so that's the Blood Ravens not Blood Angels.[/QUOTE]
I love the way you just jump in to make corrections about the fluff. I aspire to this.
Anyone who genuinely believes the Blood Ravens are a good chapter are silly. They have no traceable lineage so Relic drop hints that they are related to the two unknown Primarchs. However, they [i]did[/i] produce Indrick Boreale - "Spess Mehrens, we know our duty and we will do it! We fight for our [i]honaughr[/i]."
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17644659]Don't they both have a mutation in the Gene-seed that results in them desiring blood, hence their name?[/QUOTE]
No. The Blood Ravens never had this attribute, and the Blood Angels are just reputed for being "bloodthirsty". Any Space Marine can drink an enemy's blood and learn from it, though most Chapters forgo this as silly and barbarian.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;17644629]Which Games? Dawn of War? If so that's the Blood Ravens not Blood Angels.[/QUOTE]
Shit, my mistake. I keep getting them mixed up.
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[QUOTE=Ixius;17644727]I love the way you just jump in to make corrections about the fluff. I aspire to this.
Anyone who genuinely believes the Blood Ravens are a good chapter are silly. They have no traceable lineage so Relic drop hints that they are related to the two unknown Primarchs. However, they [i]did[/i] produce Indrick Boreale - "Spess Mehrens, we know our duty and we will do it! We fight for our [i]honaughr[/i]."[/QUOTE]
From one of the books they may just get Excommunicate Traitoris'd soon. One of Gabriel's marines in it has a mutation and Gabriel even saw it and went go put some gloves on.
[QUOTE=Ixius;17644727]I love the way you just jump in to make corrections about the fluff. I aspire to this.
Anyone who genuinely believes the Blood Ravens are a good chapter are silly. They have no traceable lineage so Relic drop hints that they are related to the two unknown Primarchs. However, they [i]did[/i] produce Indrick Boreale - "Spess Mehrens, we know our duty and we will do it! We fight for our [i]honaughr[/i]."
No. The Blood Ravens never had this attribute, and the Blood Angels are just reputed for being "bloodthirsty". Any Space Marine can drink an enemy's blood and learn from it, though most Chapters forgo this as silly and barbarian.[/QUOTE]
Learn from it? As learn the enemy's memories and shit?
By reading this thread, my knowledge of 40k universe, grew exponentially.
[QUOTE=Ixius;17644727]I love the way you just jump in to make corrections about the fluff. I aspire to this.
Anyone who genuinely believes the Blood Ravens are a good chapter are silly. They have no traceable lineage so Relic drop hints that they are related to the two unknown Primarchs. However, they [i]did[/i] produce Indrick Boreale - "Spess Mehrens, we know our duty and we will do it! We fight for our [i]honaughr[/i]."
No. The Blood Ravens never had this attribute, and the Blood Angels are just reputed for being "bloodthirsty". Any Space Marine can drink an enemy's blood and learn from it, though most Chapters forgo this as silly and barbarian.[/QUOTE]
I live to serve.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17644659]Don't they both have a mutation in the Gene-seed that results in them desiring blood, hence their name?[/QUOTE]
No, the Blood Ravens have a mutated catalepsian node, they don't dream but they have perfect memory.
The Blood Angels however have two gene seed flaws, the Red Thirst and the Black rage, of which the 2nd is the psychic and genetic legacy of Sanguinus's death.
Excomunicae Tratoris doesn't neccesarily mean the Chapter has Turned to chaos, just that they have gone against the ways of the Imperium, look at the Soul Drinkers, they were declared traitors, though they still fought in the Emperor's name, alright so they were being misled by a demon but that wasn't their fault.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;17644871]Learn from it? As learn the enemy's memories and shit?[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's the Omophaegea, though the Red Rage isn't specified to be caused by this, point of fact, the Blood Angels are just blood thirsty, the omophaegea allows the marine to gain memories and knowledge through gentic or residual psychic memory.
Let's take this 40K fluff talk into the [url=http://www.facepunch.com/forumdisplay.php?f=250]Warhammer 40K[/url] Subforum, you can post in the general chat thread if it's just a single or few questions, but if it's more, feel free to create a thread, oh and be sure to read the new rules too.
[QUOTE=StupidUsername67;17630333]Kasrkin.
[img]http://th01.deviantart.com/fs11/300W/i/2006/256/7/1/Kasrkin_2_by_WordBearer.jpg[/img]
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Cadia breeds the best soldiers you can get that aren't Space Marines.[/QUOTE]
This guy is awesome! What is this?
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At least he use a full armor, he's not like those IG that use minumum protection
[QUOTE=Joxalot;17645663]This guy is awesome! What is this?
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At least he use a full armor, he's not like those IG that use minumum protection[/QUOTE]
They're Kasrkin, badass IG troopers.
This animation need some Tau
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[QUOTE=bigdoggie;17645779]They're Kasrkin, badass IG troopers.[/QUOTE]
Good to know... I thought all their factions was a bunch crazy suicidal regular footsoldier with some raging commissars leading them and awesome tanks
Thank god you didn't call them Karskin, that mispelling really annoys me somehow.
[QUOTE=bigdoggie;17645779]They're Kasrkin, badass IG troopers.[/QUOTE]
Aren't all IG Shock Troopers Badass? I think I remember that they all generally wear Full Body Armor, the only difference was the design.
Kasrkin are the best of the best of the Imperial Guard.
Kastkin, hard to spell but I'll take note of them
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;17645995]Kasrkin are the best of the best of the Imperial Guard.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't that mean a lot of them have the chance to become Spess Mahreens?
[QUOTE=Joxalot;17646350]Kastkin, hard to spell but I'll take note of them[/QUOTE]
Kas[b]r[/b]kin. Unless you're trolling, in which case you've saddened me.
The Kasrkin are simply Shock Troopers, which would in itself mean that they're the best of the best in any given regiment. The difference, though, between a Kasrkin trooper and any other Shock Trooper is that the Kasrkin are [i]Cadian[/i] Shock Troopers - they are literally the best of the best of the best; there is no better soldier in the Imperium who is not Astartes-born.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17646519]Wouldn't that mean a lot of them have the chance to become Spess Mahreens?[/QUOTE]
Space Marine Chapters typically recruit from a certain world or worlds, as a matter of principle and of tradition. Not only does no Chapter recruit from Cadia - not to say that there aren't Cadian-born Space Marines somewhere in the galaxy - but Cadia, as the home planet of the Guard's finest, really does need all of the manpower it can get, without the decades it takes to become a fully fledged Space Marine - it acts as the "gate world" to the Eye of Terror, the effective home of Chaos in the galaxy - it sees combat on a regular basis more than any other world in the Imperium. On top of that, Space Marine candidates are taken very young. There's no "promotion" to Astartes from amongst the Imperial Guard - the human biology would reject the implants and geneseed transplants necessary to create a Space Marine by the time that a soldier has been trained (and has earned enough experience) so that he can call himself a Kasrkin, or even a veteran.
[QUOTE=Ixius;17646542]Kas[b]r[/b]kin. Unless you're trolling, in which case you've saddened me.
The Kasrkin are simply Shock Troopers, which would in itself mean that they're the best of the best in any given regiment. The difference, though, between a Kasrkin trooper and any other Shock Trooper is that the Kasrkin are [i]Cadian[/i] Shock Troopers - they are literally the best of the best of the best; there is no better soldier in the Imperium who is not Astartes-born.[/QUOTE]
Kasrkin are spec ops, like the Storm Troopers of other regiments, they're intended to drop behind enemy lines, take out vital targets, etc. If they were shock troopers then they'd be spearheading large attacks carried out by the main forces.
[QUOTE=Free-lancer;17646963]Kasrkin are spec ops, like the Storm Troopers of other regiments, they're intended to drop behind enemy lines, take out vital targets, etc. If they were shock troopers then they'd be spearheading large attacks carried out by the main forces.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Kasrkin[/url]
They are Storm Troopers, which is a fancy way of saying Shock Trooper.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17646519]Wouldn't that mean a lot of them have the chance to become Spess Mahreens?[/QUOTE]
No, Cadia is not recruited from by any Space Marine Chapter, every single male is inducted into the PDF Known as the Interior Guard, from these, the best of the best are picked for Kasrkin.
The reason they are called Kasrkin are because the cities on Cadia are known as Kasr, so they are Kin of the City akak Guard of the City.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;17647032]No, Cadia is not recruited from by any Space Marine Chapter, every single male is inducted into the PDF Known as the Interior Guard, from these, the best of the best are picked for Kasrkin.
The reason they are called Kasrkin are because the cities on Cadia are known as Kasr, so they are Kin of the City akak Guard of the City.[/QUOTE]
I was just remembering based on that one Chapter that recruits by having people fight in what amounted to a Battle Royale, I forget which Chapter that was, though.
Blood Ravens do that (Mentioned in the novel Dawn of War: Ascention.), and a lot of others do too, albeit not so directly, the space Wolves will chose aspirants for performing heroic deeds, usually when two clans clash.
The main difference between Stormtroopers and Kasrkin is that Kasrkin are dedicated to the defense of Cadia whereas Stormtroopers are dedicated to the defense of the entire Imperium. Kasrkins are just the only other troops in the Imperium that get equivalent or even superior training as the Stormtroopers.
You wont see Kasrkins fighting off-world either.
Yeah, all Cadian Guardsmen tend to remain on Cadia for their entire term of service (i.e. their mortal lives). Even the Kasrkin tend to be referred to as "elite guard" rather than elite Guardsmen, if you get my meaning.
[QUOTE=Ixius;17647309]Yeah, all Cadian Guardsmen tend to remain on Cadia for their entire term of service (i.e. their mortal lives). Even the Kasrkin tend to be referred to as "elite guard" rather than elite Guardsmen, if you get my meaning.[/QUOTE]
Hey, you need every able bodied person to fight the forces of chaos.
[QUOTE=Ixius;17646542]Kas[b]r[/b]kin. Unless you're trolling, in which case you've saddened me.
The Kasrkin are simply Shock Troopers, which would in itself mean that they're the best of the best in any given regiment. The difference, though, between a Kasrkin trooper and any other Shock Trooper is that the Kasrkin are [i]Cadian[/i] Shock Troopers - they are literally the best of the best of the best; there is no better soldier in the Imperium who is not Astartes-born.[/QUOTE]
Nah that was typing mistakes, writing on an iPod is hard, don't take me to the warp plz :gonk:
[QUOTE=Joxalot;17647489]Nah that was typing mistakes, writing on an iPod is hard, don't take me to the warp plz :gonk:[/QUOTE]
You're safe this time, mister. [i]This time[/i].
Wow wtf its one hour long.
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