• Upcoming Warhammer 40k Movie!
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Oh hi dark angels here ready to rape you. [img]http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/4/45/Azrael.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.nugaming.com/assets/images/Warhammer40KSpaceMarineDreadnought.JPG[/img] [b]"I have come to destroy You"[/b]
[QUOTE=Billiam;17589068]They shoulduv' used 'dem Grey Knights... Or Chaos, am I the only one who likes Chaos?[/QUOTE] A movie staring Chaos would not be very good. The Chaos Lord would be screaming and having a stroke, several chaos marines would be fighting over who gets to eat the remains of their enemies, and a few Khorne Berserkers would be eating hearts and playing soccer with dead cultists. They're called Chaos for a reason.
Guard would die quite a bit. Unless it's Gaunt's ghost. There's a reason a front line guardsman has a life expectancy of 15 hours.
A movie about Tyranids would be cool. If you fail to see my sarcasm please die.
I'm willing to bet this is going to be a tie in to that Space Marine game that was announced earlier this year.
[QUOTE=goon165;17589117]because half the movie would be them fucking running away screaming. Oh shit moderate resistance! [b]RETREAT![/b] waiting to see dreadnoughts smashing things to bits.[/QUOTE] What about the commissars?
[QUOTE=KommradKommisar;17589771]What about the commissars?[/QUOTE] They'ed probably yell...something about cowardice and shoot a couple guys and then get their heads blow off by what ever is advancing and the guard would be in full everyman for himself retreat mode at this point.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;17587867]1stly, they aren't furries, they are vikings based off of Fenris the wolf god that will bring upon Ragnarok once freed from his chains on Yggdrassil. and 2nd. Space wolves use strategy, they aren't stupid. They are quite tactical, but when things get up close is when things get out of hand. Usually the Wolves hacking everything not in Grey to bits. You sir are an ignorant fuck and should go jerk off to some IG or something.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ, calm the fuck down. Calling them space furries is just a joke, like how the Dark Angels big secret is that they won't come out of the closet. Maybe you should learn not to take tiny plastic men so seriously and get the stick out of your ass.
[QUOTE=gufu;17588541]But I thought those were like... the regular army, since there are 50 to 500 of them for a single space marine.[/QUOTE] More like 1 billion for a single marine. There are at least 1 trillion Guards in the IG. There are only 1 million marines.
Actually, there are no definite numbers for anything in particular in the 40k universe, but we can guess at the numbers of Space Marines. It's definitely nowhere near 1,000,000. The most that can be said is that, at their largest, the maximum number of Space Marines in the universe was 300,000, and that would have been towards the end of the 30th millenium, rather than the 40th. I'm proposing that number because during Dan Abnett's [i]Horus Rising[/i], a Space Marine company was measured at approximately 600 men. A Legion was made up of 25 companies, and there were 20 Space Marine Legions in total - the maths specify that there couldn't have been more than 300,000 full-fledged Astartes. After the Horus Heresy, Space Marine Legions were disbanded into Chapters of no more than 1000 full Astartes, and the implication that there are 1,000,000 of them is the same as supposing that after three "foundings" - where the original Legions and their successor Chapters were divided into new Chapters - the (maximum of) 9 Legions who remained faithful to the Imperium (which would equate to approximately 135 Chapters) could have grown into 1000 Chapters, which is quite ridiculous. Given that, at most, 135000 Marines remained loyal to the Emperor during the Horus Heresy - and that's providing that none of them died fighting the Traitor Legions (a lot died, don't worry) - you're implying that 1,000 years or so is enough time to multiply 135 into 1000 after the ravages of endless universal war, and you, sir, are wrong! [b]edit:[/b] Unless we factor in the progressive sub-foundings of the Second Founding chapters and onwards. Apparently there have been as many as 26 foundings through some Chapters, and while there is by no means a comprehensive list of Chapters, nor any confirmation of their number, everything I posted above is as null and void as the assumption that there are only a trillion Imperial Guardsmen :sax: Comparatively, it's generally accepted that a single Astartes is equal to a hundred men. Just to put that out there.
[QUOTE=UberMensch;17582514]I'm hoping this'll be pretty good. If it's anything like the original Dawn of War game intro trailer, I'll be happy :V[/QUOTE] Except in the intro the Blood Ravens were stupid enough to engage the orks in close combat. I mean, one of them had a heavy bolter for christ sake. Try melee with that. [editline]11:29PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Uberman77883;17590277]More like 1 billion for a single marine. There are at least 1 trillion Guards in the IG. There are only 1 million marines.[/QUOTE] no, probably more then a 1 trillion.
The intro to Dawn of War made the Space Marines look bad.
[QUOTE=Ixius;17590616]Actually, there are no definite numbers for anything in particular in the 40k universe, but we can guess at the numbers of Space Marines. It's definitely nowhere near 1,000,000. The most that can be said is that, at their largest, the maximum number of Space Marines in the universe was 300,000, and that would have been towards the end of the 30th millenium, rather than the 40th. I'm proposing that number because during Dan Abnett's [i]Horus Rising[/i], a Space Marine company was measured at approximately 600 men. A Legion was made up of 25 companies, and there were 20 Space Marine Legions in total - the maths specify that there couldn't have been more than 300,000 full-fledged Astartes. After the Horus Heresy, Space Marine Legions were disbanded into Chapters of no more than 1000 full Astartes, and the implication that there are 1,000,000 of them is the same as supposing that after three "foundings" - where the original Legions and their successor Chapters were divided into new Chapters - the (maximum of) 9 Legions who remained faithful to the Imperium (which would equate to approximately 135 Chapters) could have grown into 1000 Chapters, which is quite ridiculous. Given that, at most, 135000 Marines remained loyal to the Emperor during the Horus Heresy - and that's providing that none of them died fighting the Traitor Legions (a lot died, don't worry) - you're implying that 1,000 years or so is enough time to multiply 135 into 1000 after the ravages of endless universal war, and you, sir, are wrong! [b]edit:[/b] Unless we factor in the progressive sub-foundings of the Second Founding chapters and onwards. Apparently there have been as many as 26 foundings through some Chapters, and while there is by no means a comprehensive list of Chapters, nor any confirmation of their number, everything I posted above is as null and void as the assumption that there are only a trillion Imperial Guardsmen :sax: Comparatively, it's generally accepted that a single Astartes is equal to a hundred men. Just to put that out there.[/QUOTE] i think they mean 100 men in manpower. If 100 guardsmen ganged up on one marine, his fucked.
[QUOTE=Ixius;17590616]Actually, there are no definite numbers for anything in particular in the 40k universe, but we can guess at the numbers of Space Marines. It's definitely nowhere near 1,000,000. The most that can be said is that, at their largest, the maximum number of Space Marines in the universe was 300,000, and that would have been towards the end of the 30th millenium, rather than the 40th. I'm proposing that number because during Dan Abnett's [i]Horus Rising[/i], a Space Marine company was measured at approximately 600 men. A Legion was made up of 25 companies, and there were 20 Space Marine Legions in total - the maths specify that there couldn't have been more than 300,000 full-fledged Astartes. After the Horus Heresy, Space Marine Legions were disbanded into Chapters of no more than 1000 full Astartes, and the implication that there are 1,000,000 of them is the same as supposing that after three "foundings" - where the original Legions and their successor Chapters were divided into new Chapters - the (maximum of) 9 Legions who remained faithful to the Imperium (which would equate to approximately 135 Chapters) could have grown into 1000 Chapters, which is quite ridiculous. Given that, at most, 135000 Marines remained loyal to the Emperor during the Horus Heresy - and that's providing that none of them died fighting the Traitor Legions (a lot died, don't worry) - you're implying that 1,000 years or so is enough time to multiply 135 into 1000 after the ravages of endless universal war, and you, sir, are wrong! [b]edit:[/b] Unless we factor in the progressive sub-foundings of the Second Founding chapters and onwards. Apparently there have been as many as 26 foundings through some Chapters, and while there is by no means a comprehensive list of Chapters, nor any confirmation of their number, everything I posted above is as null and void as the assumption that there are only a trillion Imperial Guardsmen :sax: Comparatively, it's generally accepted that a single Astartes is equal to a hundred men. Just to put that out there.[/QUOTE] There is ~1000 marine Chapter Each composed of ~1000 marine. So there is Roughly 1 million marine. Now not exact since some chapter have more than a thousand and some have less.
[QUOTE=Gunner th;17589650]Guard would die quite a bit. Unless it's Gaunt's ghost. There's a reason a front line guardsman has a life expectancy of 15 hours.[/QUOTE] Actually thats the life expectancy of a replacement front line guardsman, i.e a FNG
[QUOTE=Ixius;17590616]Bunch o' numbers[/QUOTE] Except not all legions were the same size, and you have to factor in subsequent Foundings. There have been 26 Foundings to date, and new Foundings are made to ensure that there are 1,000 Chapters in existence at a time, as Chapters have been known to get wiped out from time to time.
[QUOTE=ashxu;17590928]i think they mean 100 men in manpower. If 100 guardsmen ganged up on one marine, his fucked.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's what I was getting at: in terms of raw strength, endurance and ability, a single Astartes is worth scores of men. It doesn't stop one guardsman with an exceptional shot and an explosive weapon from killing an Astartes, though. [QUOTE=Free-lancer;17591075]Except not all legions were the same size, and you have to factor in subsequent Foundings. There have been 26 Foundings to date, and new Foundings are made to ensure that there are 1,000 Chapters in existence at a time, as Chapters have been known to get wiped out from time to time.[/QUOTE] Only the Grey Knights (not technically a Chapter), the Storm Wolves and the Black Templars have more than 1,000 Astartes, and only because the first isn't an official Space Marine Chapter, the second can't be controlled, and the third are too elusive to allow an Inquisitor to count them all. 1,000 Chapters would make sense, though, so I agree with you there. Is there any official documentation that's defined that number?
All I know is that the IG don't number in the trillions, but the billions.
[QUOTE=StupidUsername67;17591715]All I know is that the IG don't number in the trillions, but the billions.[/QUOTE] All they say is they number in the countless billions, so they probably get really damn close. Besides, what's the population of Humanity in 40k? A septillion?
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17591909]All they say is they number in the countless billions, so they probably get really damn close. Besides, what's the population of Humanity in 40k? A septillion?[/QUOTE] Wiki says unknown but in the hundreds of trillions.
The population is so great so as to be uncounted, as by the time you've counted some, loads more have been born and some of the ones you counted have probably died.
A normal imperium hive world has 20 billion people and there are millions of planets in the imperium so woah. That's of course including death worlds and agri worlds.
There's never been any attempt made to count how many people live as subjects of the Imperium, because there's really no point.
[QUOTE=ashxu;17590738]Except in the intro the Blood Ravens were stupid enough to engage the orks in close combat. I mean, one of them had a heavy bolter for christ sake. Try melee with that. [editline]11:29PM[/editline] no, probably more then a 1 trillion.[/QUOTE] No, it is fact that there are only 1 million marines give or take a few thousand in existence at a time.
[QUOTE=Gunner th;17589650]Guard would die quite a bit. Unless it's Gaunt's ghost. There's a reason a front line guardsman has a life expectancy of 15 hours.[/QUOTE] Why do people all think this? That was one book on which the planet they were on had the average life expectancy of 15 years, not the whole Imperium.
[QUOTE=Ixius;17590616]Actually, there are no definite numbers for anything in particular in the 40k universe, but we can guess at the numbers of Space Marines. It's definitely nowhere near 1,000,000. The most that can be said is that, at their largest, the maximum number of Space Marines in the universe was 300,000, and that would have been towards the end of the 30th millenium, rather than the 40th. I'm proposing that number because during Dan Abnett's [i]Horus Rising[/i], a Space Marine company was measured at approximately 600 men. A Legion was made up of 25 companies, and there were 20 Space Marine Legions in total - the maths specify that there couldn't have been more than 300,000 full-fledged Astartes. After the Horus Heresy, Space Marine Legions were disbanded into Chapters of no more than 1000 full Astartes, and the implication that there are 1,000,000 of them is the same as supposing that after three "foundings" - where the original Legions and their successor Chapters were divided into new Chapters - the (maximum of) 9 Legions who remained faithful to the Imperium (which would equate to approximately 135 Chapters) could have grown into 1000 Chapters, which is quite ridiculous. Given that, at most, 135000 Marines remained loyal to the Emperor during the Horus Heresy - and that's providing that none of them died fighting the Traitor Legions (a lot died, don't worry) - you're implying that 1,000 years or so is enough time to multiply 135 into 1000 after the ravages of endless universal war, and you, sir, are wrong! [b]edit:[/b] Unless we factor in the progressive sub-foundings of the Second Founding chapters and onwards. Apparently there have been as many as 26 foundings through some Chapters, and while there is by no means a comprehensive list of Chapters, nor any confirmation of their number, everything I posted above is as null and void as the assumption that there are only a trillion Imperial Guardsmen :sax: Comparatively, it's generally accepted that a single Astartes is equal to a hundred men. Just to put that out there.[/QUOTE] Only the Ultrasmurfs have only 1000 marines. You are forgetting all the other non-mainstream chapters. There are 1 million marines. [editline]09:26PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Vasili;17592977]Why do people all think this? That was one book on which the planet they were on had the average life expectancy of 15 years, not the whole Imperium.[/QUOTE] Because the average life expectancy of a guardsman is 15 hours, not years. They are used as cannon fodder. In fact, one commissar marched some IG shoulder to shoulder to clear a minefield.
[QUOTE=Vasili;17592977]Why do people all think this? That was one book on which the planet they were on had the average life expectancy of 15 years, not the whole Imperium.[/QUOTE] he means the [b]Typical Guardsmen[/b]
[QUOTE=ashxu;17590928]i think they mean 100 men in manpower. If 100 guardsmen ganged up on one marine, his fucked.[/QUOTE] LOL, a las gun can't even penetrate Astartes armor. 100 guardsmen would die in less than a minute against a SM.
Ultramarine, all I needed to hear
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