[QUOTE=Water-Marine;48048889]TF2 has become Runescape 3 in terms of cosmetics.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;48042753]idk somebody sacrificing their life to save somebody else counts as being pretty damn selfless to me[/QUOTE]
In the end they're only doing that to satisfy their urge to help somebody else even if it means sacrificing oneself.
[I]Every[/I] act is selfish on [I]some[/I] level, but that just means there's no distinction between selfish and selfless acts on that level, and it's kinda pointless in practice.
I honestly don't get the appeal for Aphex Twin.
It's just not my cup of tea and I've had musical people go off on how he's got a "superior intelligent sound"
[QUOTE=CobaltCrysis;48049542]I honestly don't get the appeal for Aphex Twin.
It's just not my cup of tea and I've had musical people go off on how he's got a "superior intelligent sound"[/QUOTE]
A lot of his stuff just sounds like mostly mindless electronic blubbering with unpronounceable names to me.
[video=youtube;amYoaUywp8A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amYoaUywp8A[/video]
Like this, none of the sounds seem to mix together. It sounds like he just dicked with a keyboard for a bit and called it good.
[editline]25th June 2015[/editline]
His best stuff is his ambient music, I think. SAW 85-92 and and Vol. 2 are really good and pretty creepy ambience.
The Escapists would benefit from a roguelite game mode.
People need to stop complaining about racism and using the whole "slavery" thing as an excuse for it
I mean come on that happened like 200 years ago, come the fuck on guys
[QUOTE=A Fghtr Pilot;48051376]People need to stop complaining about racism and using the whole "slavery" thing as an excuse for it
I mean come on that happened like 200 years ago, come the fuck on guys[/QUOTE]
Racism is still prevalent today though
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;48051716]Racism is still prevalent today though[/QUOTE]
I meant the slavery, not the racism when I said that.
[QUOTE=A Fghtr Pilot;48051809]I meant the slavery, not the racism when I said that.[/QUOTE]
Well slavery is still a prevalent thing too but yeah.. still quite a bit of racism in the US, with 10% of people openly admitting that they wouldn't vote for a black person that they agreed with on nearly everything.
Nah everyone knows racism ended 50 years ago
[url]https://twitter.com/GOP/status/407161769069924352[/url]
I remember getting annoyed at my sociology teacher because he was acting like it was a big deal that there are more slaves now than there have ever been.
Bullshit, and if there were, it might be due to the fact that there are more people than there have ever been.
[QUOTE=The Jack;48051910]I remember getting annoyed at my sociology teacher because he was acting like it was a big deal that there are more slaves now than there have ever been.
Bullshit, and if there were, it might be due to the fact that there are more people than there have ever been.[/QUOTE]
Slavery is alive and well, just because Europeans and North Americans stopped it doesn't mean it ended.
[QUOTE=Maud;48046189]Kanye's All Day single is pretty terrible.[/QUOTE]
what the
Sir, You Are Being Hunted was actually boring to me.
There should not be laws against hate speech.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48053604]There should not be laws against hate speech.[/QUOTE]
I think the fact this has to be said in an Unpopular Opinions thread says a lot.
It's not the governments place to tell people what they can, or can not think. Even if what they believe is fucked up and racist and just plain wrong.
Like Ive said, people can speak however they want.
I think members of the government should not, though. Like, if the President went on a big racist hateful tirade, I think that ought to be grounds for an impeachment.
If we're going to ban the confederate flag, we should ban the Soviet flag too.
The Soviet flag represents nearly a century of brutal oppression, genocide, international bullying and causing the issues that we see in areas like Afghanistan.
The Soviet flag represents the millions of Ukrainians who were forcefully starved, the millions of ethnic Tartars forced from their homes, the millions of Altaic peoples marginalized and forcefully migrated into new homelands, the millions of innocent civilians who lamented in gulags, the millions of Eastern Europeans who had to suffer under puppet governments set up by the Soviet Union after World War 2.
Nobody should be proud of Soviet heritage or memory.
[QUOTE=Shark Bones;48053711]Like Ive said, people can speak however they want.
I think members of the government should not, though. Like, if the President went on a big racist hateful tirade, I think that ought to be grounds for an impeachment.[/QUOTE]
It's not unlawful so nah, though if the President did do that it would absolutely ruin any sort of credibility s/he has, and would basically put a monkey wrench into their plans as President.
I think that Frozen is overrated :v:
[QUOTE=bdd458;48053705]I think the fact this has to be said in an Unpopular Opinions thread says a lot.
It's not the governments place to tell people what they can, or can not think. Even if what they believe is fucked up and racist and just plain wrong.[/QUOTE]
hate speech laws aren't there to "tell people what to think", they exist to prevent statements that "may incite violence or prejudicial action" against a certain group. acting like they exist to change people's opinions into some sort of standard is an awful oversimplification
someone thinks we should kill all black people? ok that's their (stupid and bigoted) thing. they make a gigantic billboard saying "kill all niggers"? yeah i have absolutely no problem with them being ordered to take it down
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48053954]hate speech laws aren't there to "tell people what to think", they exist to prevent statements that "may incite violence or prejudicial action" against a certain group. acting like they exist to change people's opinions into some sort of standard is an awful oversimplification
someone thinks we should kill all black people? ok that's their (stupid and bigoted) thing. they make a gigantic billboard saying "kill all niggers"? yeah i have absolutely no problem with them being ordered to take it down[/QUOTE]
There are very, very few exceptions in the US to Free Speech, and it's generally what's known as "Fighting Words". There should never be ANY laws banning hate speech, and making it illegal to make threats is wholly different from that.
[Quote=Washington Post]But those narrow exceptions have nothing to do with “hate speech” in any conventionally used sense of the term. For instance, there is an exception for “fighting words” — face-to-face personal insults addressed to a specific person, of the sort that are likely to start an immediate fight. But this exception isn’t limited to racial or religious insults, nor does it cover all racially or religiously offensive statements. Indeed, when the City of St. Paul tried to specifically punish bigoted fighting words, the Supreme Court held that this selective prohibition was unconstitutional (R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992)), even though a broad ban on all fighting words would indeed be permissible. (And, notwithstanding CNN anchor Chris Cuomo’s Tweet that “hate speech is excluded from protection,” and his later claims that by “hate speech” he means “fighting words,” the fighting words exception is not generally labeled a “hate speech” exception, and isn’t coextensive with any established definition of “hate speech” that I know of.)
The same is true of the other narrow exceptions, such as for true threats of illegal conduct or incitement intended to and likely to produce imminent illegal conduct (i.e., illegal conduct in the next few hours or maybe days, as opposed to some illegal conduct some time in the future). Indeed, threatening to kill someone because he’s black (or white), or intentionally inciting someone to a likely and immediate attack on someone because he’s Muslim (or Christian or Jewish), can be made a crime. But this isn’t because it’s “hate speech”; it’s because it’s illegal to make true threats and incite imminent crimes against anyone and for any reason, for instance because they are police officers or capitalists or just someone who is sleeping with the speaker’s ex-girlfriend.[/quote]
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/07/no-theres-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/[/url]
That billboard you use as an example wouldn't be taken down for its message about blacks, but for actively trying to incite violence (aka Fighting Words). Threatening others is illegal. Hating other races is not. The last part of that article I linked and quoted is something that really resonates, at least with me. You're now giving the Government the right to suppress certain thoughts and ideals if you pass hate speech laws, something that can eventually lead down a slippery slope.
[quote]they should explain just what viewpoints the government would be allowed to suppress, what viewpoints would remain protected, and how judges, juries, and prosecutors are supposed to distinguish the two. [/quote]
I really don't object to having agencies of the US government being barred from displaying Confederate flags unless it's to commemorate a Confederate defeat. I by no means think it should be banned from sale or ownership, but it's like a Nazi flag, if you own one out of pride for what it stands for: you're a douchebag, and if you show it off for that reason you're just trying to incite violence.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48054087]I really don't object to having agencies of the US government being barred from displaying Confederate flags unless it's to commemorate a Confederate defeat. I by no means think it should be banned from sale or ownership, but it's like a Nazi flag, if you own one out of pride for what it stands for: you're a douchebag, and if you show it off for that reason you're just trying to incite violence.[/QUOTE]
Flying a flag on its own isn't trying to incite violence, that's grasping at straws. If the person that was flying said flag "Alright I'm going to kill Jews today!" then yeah arrest him for actually threatening a group of people - otherwise legally you have no leg to stand on and it should stay that way.
And yeah, flying the flag of a defeated government is dumb, but it shouldn't have gone any farther than that. The Confederate Flag issue has gone a lot farther than that.
[QUOTE=bdd458;48054010]' You're now giving the Government the right to suppress certain thoughts and ideals if you pass hate speech laws, something that can eventually lead down a slippery slope.[/QUOTE]
You bring up this "repressing thoughts and ideals" crap [B]every fucking time[/B] an argument about free speech is brought up. Quit making it sound like the government is some sort of mind-controlling system trying to oppress those poor, racist souls. I can't see how punishing someone for making a hateful and incredibly offensive statement (read: in extreme cases, I'm not promoting banning everyone from saying anything offensive at all, before you start sounding like a broken record again and talking about how "t-they're banning everything!!") and/or promoting subjugation of minorities is a bad thing, I really can't.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48054361]You bring up this "repressing thoughts and ideals" crap [B]every fucking time[/B] an argument about free speech is brought up. Quit making it sound like the government is some sort of mind-controlling system trying to oppress those poor, racist souls. I can't see how punishing someone for making a hateful and incredibly offensive statement (read: in extreme cases, I'm not promoting banning everyone from saying anything offensive at all, before you start sounding like a broken record again and talking about how "t-they're banning everything!!") and/or promoting subjugation of minorities is a bad thing, I really can't.[/QUOTE]
Because it sets a president
[QUOTE=bdd458;48054116]Flying a flag on its own isn't trying to incite violence, that's grasping at straws. If the person that was flying said flag "Alright I'm going to kill Jews today!" then yeah arrest him for actually threatening a group of people - otherwise legally you have no leg to stand on and it should stay that way.
And yeah, flying the flag of a defeated government is dumb, but it shouldn't have gone any farther than that. The Confederate Flag issue has gone a lot farther than that.[/QUOTE]
That's because we actually do have a pretty serious neo-Confederate problem here and this mass shooting has just put a spotlight on it.
And honestly the reaction to this shooting has been better than usual since people took an actual good look at the shooter and his motives rather than blaming the whole thing on an engineer named Eugene whose been dead for twenty years like usual.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48054361]You bring up this "repressing thoughts and ideals" crap [B]every fucking time[/B] an argument about free speech is brought up.[/QUOTE]
Banning people from expressing certain ideas is "repressing thoughts and ideals". Are these ideals reprehensible? Yeah but some people think socialism is a reprehensible thing, randomly citing Stalin and Mao, etc.
Let racists say whatever they want. Let them get mocked and watch the ideas get torn apart.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48054431]Banning people from expressing certain ideas is "repressing thoughts and ideals". Are these ideals reprehensible? Yeah but some people think socialism is a reprehensible thing, randomly citing Stalin and Mao, etc.
Let racists say whatever they want. Let them get mocked and watch the ideas get torn apart.[/QUOTE]
i don't give a fuck if a racist makes racist comments, i'm saying that in extreme cases (the part you conveniently left out of your quote) it might be necessary to discourage people from promoting those ideas aggressively
[editline]26th June 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;48054415]Because it sets a president[/QUOTE]
is it a democrat or a republican one
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