[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48054361]You bring up this "repressing thoughts and ideals" crap [B]every fucking time[/B] an argument about free speech is brought up. Quit making it sound like the government is some sort of mind-controlling system trying to oppress those poor, racist souls. I can't see how punishing someone for making a hateful and incredibly offensive statement (read: in extreme cases, I'm not promoting banning everyone from saying anything offensive at all, before you start sounding like a broken record again and talking about how "t-they're banning everything!!") and/or promoting subjugation of minorities is a bad thing, I really can't.[/QUOTE]
Do you not understand how Free Speech works or something? You let everyone express their mind, no matter how disgusting and reprehensible their thoughts and ideals are. Whether it be a racist who thinks blacks are lesser than whites, or someone who wants equality between the races. You let it all through, that's how free speech works - making "Hate Speech" laws is directly contradictory to that ideal of Free Speech. At that point your now repressing actual viewpoints; no matter how wrong or disgusting it may be. Which is the difference between "I hate blacks!" and "I hate blacks so I'm going to go kill a black man tonight!". That's what the entire "Fighting Words" laws are about, preventing ACTUAL laws from being broken. You don't get to be in a heated argument with a Jewish man and yell "Yeah, well you're just a dumb fucking kike!" and expect to get away with it because the entire point of you saying that is to incite violence and get that person to react violently (Hence, "fighting words"). I already covered this with your billboard example; it would be taken down for inciting violence and making threats. It's a bad thing making laws banning "hate speech" (which btw there is no legal definition of in the US) because it goes against the very ideals that this nation, The United States of America was founded on and continues to claim to embody, and one of those is the Freedom of Speech.
As well, you can just handwave it away with "but they're [I]just[/I] racists no one is really hurt by this!", but that ignores that fact that laws (and judicial rulings) create precedents, and down the line (Whether it be 10, 40, 100 years down the line) someone else is going to see that precedent having been made and say "hm, wonder how we could push the envelope with this precedent to go for X goal". A great example of that in action is how Abortion is handled by a lot of states, much of it is just states pushing the envelope on to see what they can really get away with.
Nippon Ichi Software should reconsider their attitude towards PC gaming, because there's absolutely no reason for a pixel art dungeon crawler (which was quite frankly overdone at the time) to decide if Disgaea should be on Steam. Hell, their dislike towards PC gaming is pretty much [url=http://store.steampowered.com/app/340170/]outdated [/url][url=http://store.steampowered.com/app/351970]at this point[/url].
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48054547]i don't give a fuck if a racist makes racist comments, i'm saying that in extreme cases (the part you conveniently left out of your quote) it might be necessary to discourage people from promoting those ideas aggressively
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is it a democrat or a republican one[/QUOTE]
what?
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;48055033]what?[/QUOTE]
it's not as funny when i have to explain the joke, but you spelled precedent wrong
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48055079]it's not as funny when i have to explain the joke, but you spelled precedent wrong[/QUOTE]
oh Geez, auto correct
The school system is way to kind on kids now (maybe only just in my country, not sure about others)
Some schools are not allowed to give kids anything under a D in grades because it could be discouraging. Some schools are not allowing teachers to punish kids if they're being disruptive. They're only allowed to wait until they stop by themselves because saying "No" or "Stop it" is causing negative emotions.
And last but not least....
A mate of mine who has been teaching for 2 years. Just got his own class and is teaching Physics. He's gay with a fiancé of 3 years. Word has only recently got out in the school that he is gay after pupils saw him with his fiancé in public on a weekend. He has since been suspended (possibly permanently) because a rebellious kid in his class who claims that he was coming onto him.
I know my mate, he DEFINITELY would not go for the kid and if you see his fiancé you know for a fact he isn't into skinny little boys. He most definitely is into muscular older men.
Complete bullshit and it angers me. Luckily the parents of the kid have contacted my mate and apologising greatly for their child and believe that this has not happened. But because of this little shit of a kid, my mate could be completely out of a teaching job, forever.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48053721]If we're going to ban the confederate flag, we should ban the Soviet flag too.
The Soviet flag represents nearly a century of brutal oppression, genocide, international bullying and causing the issues that we see in areas like Afghanistan.
The Soviet flag represents the millions of Ukrainians who were forcefully starved, the millions of ethnic Tartars forced from their homes, the millions of Altaic peoples marginalized and forcefully migrated into new homelands, the millions of innocent civilians who lamented in gulags, the millions of Eastern Europeans who had to suffer under puppet governments set up by the Soviet Union after World War 2.
Nobody should be proud of Soviet heritage or memory.[/QUOTE]
If we are gonna ban flags for the people behind it commiting atrocities, then the US flag will be one of the first to go lol
I'm into anarchy so screw alllll the flags
[QUOTE=Shark Bones;48055757]I'm into anarchy so screw alllll the flags[/QUOTE]
Including this one?
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Anarchist_flag.svg[/img]
[QUOTE=Shark Bones;48055757]I'm into anarchy so screw alllll the flags[/QUOTE]
"Anarchy" achieves nothing and never will. "Anarchy" leads to the governments of Franco, Stalin, Napoleon and Hussein.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48056130]"Anarchy" achieves nothing and never will. "Anarchy" leads to the governments of Franco, Stalin, Napoleon and Hussein.[/QUOTE]
No, those guys were brought up through either power, corruption, manipulation, or a mixture of the 3. Anarchy leads to just pure chaos and war.
VR has potential to be great, but dancing around it and thinking that it's going to be good within 5 years is a bit overly optimistic.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;48056167]No, those guys were brought up through either power, corruption, manipulation, or a mixture of the 3. Anarchy leads to just pure chaos and war.[/QUOTE]
Best anarchy is anarchy enforced through violence.
i think sensationalist headlines is a fine subforum
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;48055987]Including this one?
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Anarchist_flag.svg[/img][/QUOTE]
Especially that one. ANARCHY AGAINST ANARCHY
[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48056536]i think sensationalist headlines is a fine subforum[/QUOTE]
There's no such thing as a good or bad subforum. What really matters is what kind of people frequent the place. They define the atmosphere and attitude.
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Which is why the Rust subforum is literal cancer.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48056130]"Anarchy" achieves nothing and never will. "Anarchy" leads to the governments of Franco, Stalin, Napoleon and Hussein.[/QUOTE]
There has never really been a good example of implemented post scarcity anarchism in the world, so you really can't say that
I'll be the first to admit that total anarchy would never work on a grand scale.
I just really like the idea of taking myself and the people I care about, going to an island, and telling the world and its laws to go fuck itself.
[QUOTE=Shark Bones;48057185]I'll be the first to admit that total anarchy would never work on a grand scale.
I just really like the idea of taking myself and the people I care about, going to an island, and telling the world and its laws to go fuck itself.[/QUOTE]
I think people have a really dumb idea of what anarchism is, this is one of them
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;48057353]I think people have a really dumb idea of what anarchism is, this is one of them[/QUOTE]
Well I adhere to the dictionary definition of the word so...
WAIT A MINUTE THAT MAKES ME A CONFORMIST FUUUUU-
Anarch /= anarchism
[QUOTE=Shark Bones;48057185]I'll be the first to admit that total anarchy would never work on a grand scale.
I just really like the idea of taking myself and the people I care about, going to an island, and telling the world and its laws to go fuck itself.[/QUOTE]
I'm somewhat sympathetic towards anarchists, and some of the flavors of it. But it has some pretty big obstacles to overcome before they have a chance of achieving global anarchism, hell one of them is that it has to be global to work out.
Anarcho-statism is the best flavor by the way
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;48057173]There has never really been a good example of implemented [B]post scarcity[/B] anarchism in the world, so you really can't say that[/QUOTE]
Well thats kindof impossible until Star Trek tech so yeah...
Most anarchist states fail because they have to use force to get people to embrace the "system" and can't really mobilize resources to deal with problems.
I don't think tradition is inherently valuable. I also don't think most traditions are even traditions in the way people think they are.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;48057173]There has never really been a good example of implemented post scarcity anarchism in the world, so you really can't say that[/QUOTE]
There has never been a good example because anarchism is incapable of producing a good outcome.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48058703]There has never been a good example because anarchism is incapable of producing a good outcome.[/QUOTE]
Source?
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[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48057896]Well thats kindof[B] impossible until Star Trek tech[/B] so yeah...
Most anarchist states fail because they have to use force to get people to embrace the "system" and can't really mobilize resources to deal with problems.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't go that far, it's definitely something we should be striving for
KFC is disgusting.
[QUOTE=bdd458;48059420]KFC is disgusting.[/QUOTE]pretty sure thats not an unpopular opinion
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;48057595]Anarch /= anarchism[/QUOTE]
"Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates stateless societies often defined as self-governed voluntary institutions, but that several authors have defined as more specific institutions based on non-hierarchical free associations. Anarchism holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, or harmful."
Relic Entertainment should set up a Patreon account.
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