[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;47080183]I still don't understand Breast Cancer month. Why not just have Cancer awareness month?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Deng;47080474]Breast cancer month is a problem in that it gives too much attention to one disease when there's loads of other cancers which kill just as many or more people but get less attention.
Where's bowel cancer month or lung cancer month?[/QUOTE]
The problem with these mindsets is that, news flash, although every disease/group of people/tragedy/etc etc doesn't get its own individual month for awareness, they still attract awareness and people still inform each other about these topics.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;47080232]morgan freeman's opinions on racism are pretty bad tho he also said the way to end racism is to not talk about it which is the absolute worst lmao. I can't interpret that as anything else than "ignore it"? Which is aside being a straight up racist is the worst thing to do.. Just let it happen.. how does that end racism
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we don't have black history month in the UK but isn't the idea of black history month to educate and move towards equality? Sounds good 2 me. White people don't need a white history month because white people aren't an oppressed race.[/QUOTE]
Black history month is also meant to bring awareness to the successes and achievements of many black figures throughout American history. Although it's very unfair since it's the shortest month, and you learn about the same dozen black people, slavery, and the civil war in school, unless you go digging for history on your own (the civil rights movement is also taught in a pretty biased manner, like MLK is treated like an angel and Malcolm X as some sort of "angry negro" who was a radical, even though they BOTH shared similar views on protesting and riots. Malcolm X was just more open about his support of responding to violence with violence, since the people perpetuating the violence seemed to have no grasp on nonviolence whatsoever). Also, it doesn't bring attention to other black figures of great value who contributed to the civil rights movement (for example: Bayard Rustin, Martin Luther King Jr.s [b]mentor[/b], who I didn't learn shit about until college. One of the reasons he stuck to the background of the civil rights movement was the public view of homosexuality, since he was also gay.)
Also also, you have to take into account how much of an erasure was done on black people taken over to the west. The history of their people, their cultures, everything about them kept secret from them as they were treated as beasts of labor. Generations of black people kept ignorant, treated like animals, and to this day there is still a heavy racial stigma painted on black people. Even though they have the right to vote, are considered human and so on, racism lives on in this country, and they (along with other non-white people) still have a warped and skewed perception put on them.
[editline]5th February 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;47080187]I dunno, I wouldn't ever want a white history month, but I've always found the idea of black history month to be kinda weird because it's the only one of its kind (correct me if I'm wrong here).
I believe Morgan Freeman called it ridiculous a few years ago and said the exact same thing.
"Your going to dedicate my race's history to a month? What month is white history month?"[/QUOTE]
Morgan Freeman's statement is also a problem in black history month: it's cut short to a month, the shortest month of the year, when we, as such a diverse nation, should be learning about every culture (including black/african culture) every day of the year.
i think its sort of a double edged sword. on one hand, it's hard to even put into words just how important awareness is, but then again i'm against any sort of racial pride because it only expands the already existing cultural gaps, yknow?
I thought of The Last of Us as an "Eh, it's ok... I guess" game
I mean, it's a nice game, but with so much hype around it for "BEST GAME EVER", I didn't like it that much, and a few friends think I'm some kind of child-hating fungus-zombie lover psycho
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47082304]i think its sort of a double edged sword. on one hand, it's hard to even put into words just how important awareness is, but then again i'm against any sort of racial pride because it only expands the already existing cultural gaps, yknow?[/QUOTE]
"Cultural gaps", honestly that's really racist. That implies some cultures are lesser than others. Every culture is unique and different, and there is no "gap" between cultures. Cultures are just different from eachother, and being blind to diveristy is far more racist than acknowlwdging those differences. While yeah, there are some shitty things in certain cultures, there are no "gaps" between them.
Wait, I'm confused. How is the concept of 'cultural gaps' racist?
Enhh... black pride is being proud of who you are and standing up to and fighting against prejudice and systematic oppression, being proud of being white is being proud of oppression and being above other races probably into that "racial purity" shit...
Pretending there are no cultural differences is bad too because it's erasure tho. Black people do have culture that is different from white people's (and there and differences in culture between different white ppl and black ppl obv..) etc. Idk I don't see the issue with different people having different cultures. The "gap" isn't a problem. Pls explain what u mean by the cultural gap etc?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;47082400]Wait, I'm confused. How is the concept of 'cultural gaps' racist?[/QUOTE]
Gaps implies that that some cultures are lesser and have not yet caught up with others.
EDIT: this is like anthropology 101
[QUOTE=bdd458;47082385]"Cultural gaps", honestly that's really racist. That implies some cultures are lesser than others.[/QUOTE]
you completely misunderstood me, i'm not saying cultural gaps because "some cultures are better than others", i'm saying cultural gaps in the sense that some cultures are TREATED differently than others
That is an issue with people not accepting of other cultures, not people from a culture that the person doesn't agree with.
[QUOTE=bdd458;47082408]Gaps implies that that some cultures are lesser and have not yet caught up with others.
EDIT: this is like anthropology 101[/QUOTE]
No one here was even implying that cultural gaps was referencing racism, though.
Then you should have said "gaps in how cultures are treated" instead of "cultural gaps", which has an entirely different meaning.
Even then I still disagree with you because its good to celebrate and ackowledge differences between cultures.
Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are disgusting.
Also, marshmallows and marshmallow spreads are literally Satan.
Life is Strange is pretty cool. People really overstate this pretentiousness and awkward dialogue.
[QUOTE=Skyward;47082786]Life is Strange is pretty cool. People really overstate this pretentiousness and awkward dialogue.[/QUOTE]
the Spirits Within easter egg is great
[QUOTE=bdd458;47082385]"Cultural gaps", honestly that's really racist. That implies some cultures are lesser than others. Every culture is unique and different, and there is no "gap" between cultures. Cultures are just different from eachother, and being blind to diveristy is far more racist than acknowlwdging those differences. While yeah, there are some shitty things in certain cultures, there are no "gaps" between them.[/QUOTE]
Does it? Would the culture of say the United States a hundred years ago be equal to the culture of today, meaning Jim Crow is just relative?
In the mid 19th century, was the slaveholding southern culture equal to the abolitionist northern culture?
Are the cultures of people who practice female genital mutilation, slavery, capital punishment, revenge killings, etc equal?
[QUOTE=ProtoMob;47082559]Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are disgusting.
Also, marshmallows and marshmallow spreads are literally Satan.[/QUOTE]
Have you only ever eaten protein paste throughout your entire life? I am offended
[QUOTE=Deng;47082881]Does it? Would the culture of say the United States a hundred years ago be equal to the culture of today, meaning Jim Crow is just relative?
In the mid 19th century, was the slaveholding southern culture equal to the abolitionist northern culture?
Are the cultures of people who practice female genital mutilation, slavery, capital punishment, revenge killings, etc equal?[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between understanding a culture and why it does things (both good and bad), and saying that a culture is behind another. Cultures are equal, they all have developed under radically different circumstances, and no culture is clean. But understanding why a culture does what it does, while still being against the bad stuff is a cornerstone of Anthropology.
Source: I'm an Anthropology major and this is literally some of the first stuff explained in any anthro class.
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Like, I really hate pulling the "I' a student of Anthropology" card, but studying other cultures is what I plan on doing with my life, basically I kinda know what I'm talking about here.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;47083156]As an accounting major, I respectfully disagree.[/QUOTE]
I submit to your accounting ways.
[QUOTE=bdd458;47083072]There's a difference between understanding a culture and why it does things (both good and bad), and saying that a culture is behind another. Cultures are equal, they all have developed under radically different circumstances, and no culture is clean. But understanding why a culture does what it does, while still being against the bad stuff is a cornerstone of Anthropology.
Source: I'm an Anthropology major and this is literally some of the first stuff explained in any anthro class.
[editline]5th February 2015[/editline]
Like, I really hate pulling the "I' a student of Anthropology" card, but studying other cultures is what I plan on doing with my life, basically I kinda know what I'm talking about here.[/QUOTE]
Then maybe you shouldn't just be saying "cultures are equal" in a way that implies we aren't allowed to criticize the aspects of them we find distasteful. .
Some cultures are at the very least, better at resolving internal problems like resource allocation and conflict resolution than others. People who live in states for instance live longer and healthier lives with less violence. While I don't think we should go around wiping out cultures or forcing our views on them or whatever, it's probably a good idea to show them what we have to offer and see if any of them like it.
the only good hot pocket is ham and cheese.
[editline]6th February 2015[/editline]
well the breakfast one is good too though... :'v
[QUOTE=Deng;47083273]Then maybe you shouldn't just be saying "cultures are equal" in a way that implies we aren't allowed to criticize the aspects of them we find distasteful. .
Some cultures are at the very least, better at resolving internal problems like resource allocation and conflict resolution than others. People who live in states for instance live longer and healthier lives with less violence. While I don't think we should go around wiping out cultures or forcing our views on them or whatever, it's probably a good idea to show them what we have to offer and see if any of them like it.[/QUOTE]
The goal of Anthropology is to study other cultures, and to influence them as little as possible (this is reflected well in the American Anthropology Association's code of ethics). While of course it is inpossible to remove all outside stimuli (and an Anthropologist studying a culture does have its effects as well), it is best not to mettle much, as you don't really know what the consequences of your actions would be.
For example, Napoleon Chagnon is a prominant Anthropolgist who studied the Yanamamo people in the Amazon rainforest. One of the things he did was introduce machetes into their culture. While at first it may seem like a helpful tool, the Yanamamo frequently raided rival villages, and the Machetes helped contribute to even more losses. Not to mention, the attention that Chagnon helped bring to them contributed in part to Christian Missionaries coming to some of the villages and giving out shotguns in exchange for conversion, which is a huuuge change from large bows and arrows.
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However, that doesn't mean cultures can't change, they're supposed to change. That's a crucial aspect of culture, is their ability to adapt and survive. That change is just not supposed to come from an Anthropologist doing field work.
[QUOTE=bdd458;47083330]The goal of Anthropology is to study other cultures, and to influence them as little as possible (this is reflected well in the American Anthropology Association's code of ethics). While of course it is inpossible to remove all outside stimuli (and an Anthropologist studying a culture does have its effects as well), it is best not to mettle much, as you don't really know what the consequences of your actions would be.
For example, Napoleon Chagnon is a prominant Anthropolgist who studied the Yanamamo people in the Amazon rainforest. One of the things he did was introduce machetes into their culture. While at first it may seem like a helpful tool, the Yanamamo frequently raided rival villages, and the Machetes helped contribute to even more losses. Not to mention, the attention that Chagnon helped bring to them contributed in part to Christian Missionaries coming to some of the villages and giving out shotguns in exchange for conversion, which is a huuuge change from large bows and arrows.
[editline]5th February 2015[/editline]
However, that doesn't mean cultures can't change, they're supposed to change. That's a crucial aspect of culture, is their ability to adapt and survive. That change is just not supposed to come from an Anthropologist doing field work.[/QUOTE]
Well I don't mean machetes/technology, but more "social technology" like new ways of conflict resolution or resource allocation. I think we should open up with them and allow them to visit or give them access to information. There should be a chance for everybody to at the very least observe or know what other societies are like, even if they are a completely isolated people in the middle of nowhere.
Like I said, stuff like that isn't up to Field workers, thats uo to local governments and the like. Sadly though, many of those governments treat smaller cultures like that very badly. Seems to be a running theme in the world.
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And even then, you have to take culture shock into consideration with any culture. Attempts to radically change their ways can be met with discontent or outright objection, or those people not being able to adapt well due to other social issues such as the local government not really giving a shit.
I don't think milkandcooki is a shitposter
Milkandcooki is a pretty informed guy, and it's too bad people treat his posts like spam.
[QUOTE=TAU!;47084202]Milkandcooki is a pretty informed guy, and it's too bad people treat his posts like spam.[/QUOTE]
No but he's a furry guys that renders his arguments invalid!!!!!!
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;47083819]Anyone have any examples of shit he's done? I don't really see the issue.[/QUOTE]
He's alright now but there was a time where he came in every thread in SH and turned the whole thread into a derailing mess.
[QUOTE=TAU!;47084202]Milkandcooki is a pretty informed guy, and it's too bad people treat his posts like spam.[/QUOTE]
He has a tendency to say super retarded things though.
I remember him advocating white guilt once.
I think Megan Trainor is a cunt
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