• Religious High School Students
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[QUOTE=Kybalt;21070713]Which is why people should be taught to think logically instead of illogically, so that they can adapt to a change. Based on current evidence, god doesn't exist. What more do you want?[/QUOTE] Show me this current evidence that a God doesn't exist, I was to shake that scientist's hand so hard.
[QUOTE=Montroze;21069053]Some people have different views. No one is 100% sure that what they believe is right. If you are- your arrogant, if you aren't congratulations. No one wants to hear either side, end flames before they start... but let us be in common as we observe this flame war our OP has so kindly given, for our own enjoyment [editline]Edit[/editline] I've been taught that many high schoolers choose to be athiest to make themselves look higher in conscience or thinking than others, kinda like that douchebag in grade school who went around telling all the little kitties how Santa didn't exist. Kinda gives a bad name to athiests who truely do not believe, and aren't just doing it for statis[/QUOTE] QFT. I used to be like that when I first became an athiest but over time I have become more tolerant of other peoples beliefs. All you athiests who say you hate christians for one reason of another, are you any better then the christians who hate gays? I'll be honest, I can't stand christians who use there beliefs as an excuse to hate others but there is no reason to hate on people just for believing in god. There is nothing wrong with having faith, only when it is used for justifying bigotry of violence does it become a problem.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;21070745]Show me this current evidence that a God doesn't exist, I was to shake that scientist's hand so hard.[/QUOTE] I don't even know how to respond to this. First off, it's impossible to 100% prove or disprove something. Second, the logical position for a lack of evidence is that the existence of X is false, if there is no evidence for the existence of X.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21070713]Which is why people should be taught to think logically instead of illogically, so that they can adapt to a change. Based on current evidence, god doesn't exist. What more do you want? [editline]11:57PM[/editline] I'd rather live in a world where people made decisions based on facts, evidence and logic instead of fallacies. Yes. How is that controlling peoples minds?[/QUOTE] People should be able to make decisions on what they want. I rather live in a world where people made decisions based on whatever they wish.
Further more, it's impossible to provide evidence for the nonexistence of something. How could you prove that something doesn't exist, like for example, could you prove beyond shadow of a doubt that you're not a witch? This is why we have innocent until proven guilty.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;21070745]Show me this current evidence that a God doesn't exist, I was to shake that scientist's hand so hard.[/QUOTE] You can't say "Disprove God" when you have failed to define God. "Disprove Brick" What is Brick? Where do I find it? What does it look/smell/taste like? How do I distinguish this Brick from other bricks? Provide exact specifications of this being, and scientists will know where to look for it, how to look for it, and in turn, how to prove/disprove its existence.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21070820]People should be able to make decisions on what they want. I rather live in a world where people made decisions based on whatever they wish.[/QUOTE] What is so wrong with a world where people make decisions based on logic?
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21070847]What is so wrong with a world where people make decisions based on logic?[/QUOTE] The way you worded it you want a world where people [B]only use logic[/B]. People should be allowed to do as they please.
Your school has a forum? Fuck me.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21070859]The way you worded it you want a world where people [B]only use logic[/B]. People should be allowed to do as they please.[/QUOTE] What is wrong with a world where people make decisions only based on logic?
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21070876]What is wrong with a world where people make decisions only based on logic?[/QUOTE] I think he's thinking that you think that emotions aren't rational, and therefore shouldn't be taken into consideration when making a decision. Emotions are important in decision making, thinking rationally has nothing to do with leaving behind what makes you human.
[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;21070895]I think he's thinking that you think that emotions aren't rational, and therefore shouldn't be taken into consideration when making a decision. Emotions are important in decision making, thinking rationally has nothing to do with leaving behind what makes you human.[/QUOTE] Thank you.
[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;21070895]I think he's thinking that you think that emotions aren't rational, and therefore shouldn't be taken into consideration when making a decision. Emotions are important in decision making, thinking rationally has nothing to do with leaving behind what makes you human.[/QUOTE] How are emotions important in decision-making?
[QUOTE=LCBADs;21070920]How are emotions important in decision-making?[/QUOTE] Ultimately, people want to be happy, right? Even if the person takes pleasure in pain, this is happiness for them, so it's the same. Why would making a decision in life not factor in emotional well-being?
Actually, my point is that people should be free to think as they should and do it as they please. If they want to think using emotion instead of logic; or some other dumb shit let them. This is a free world. Emotions are indeed important in decisions; Example You're an army soldier and you see an enemy soldier laying on the ground; begging you not to shoot him. Logical - Kill him; he is an enemy Human/Emotional - Mercy. Sure; I dumbed that down a bit but it's the basic point. Logic is a wonderful tool but you have to combine it with what makes you a human; emotion.
[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;21070895]I think he's thinking that you think that emotions aren't rational, and therefore shouldn't be taken into consideration when making a decision. Emotions are important in decision making, thinking rationally has nothing to do with leaving behind what makes you human.[/QUOTE] Emotions are horrible for decision-making. Just because they're always there doesn't mean they're useful. [editline]11:11PM[/editline] [QUOTE=doommarine23;21070950] Logical - Kill him; he is an enemy Human/Emotional - Mercy. Sure; I dumbed that down a bit but it's the basic point. Logic is a wonderful tool but you have to combine it with what makes you a human; emotion.[/QUOTE] Mercy, he comes back and shoot you in the nuts Emotion made a bad call
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21070951]Emotions are horrible for decision-making. Just because they're always there doesn't mean they're useful. [editline]11:11PM[/editline] Mercy, he comes back and shoot you in the nuts Emotion made a bad call[/QUOTE] I hope that's a horrible joke
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21070985]I hope that's a horrible joke[/QUOTE] Latter part yes former part no
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21070951]Emotions are horrible for decision-making. Just because they're always there doesn't mean they're useful. [editline]11:11PM[/editline] [B]Mercy[/B], he comes back and shoot you in the nuts Emotion made a bad call[/QUOTE] He finds you after the war, and thanks you for sparing him. Ultimately, it doesn't matter which one you choose. You could logically say that it would emotionally traumatize you to shoot him, or logically say that he isn't worth the ammo. Or you could go all emotional and kill him for being an enemy soldier. Not a very good example.
Why would he even make a debate on those two concepts.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21070580]I think you guys are getting too deep into this and care too much about people's personal beliefs and opinions more than you should and ironically are like the crazy Christians that many of you preach against. :colbert:[/QUOTE] Nice run on sentence. I've been shown the light.
[QUOTE=lockdown6;21071001]oh my god do you really have no emotions that's so hardcore[/QUOTE] Why make an argument when you can accuse people of having childish ulterior motives?
[QUOTE=LCBADs;21070920]How are emotions important in decision-making?[/QUOTE] If we based all our decisions on what would rationally be the best for the survival of our species, our primary goal in life, our society would be nothing more than one big baby factory optimized for creating as many babies as possible. Instead, emotions restrain us from doing that, by making us want to invest time and effort in our offspring, making sure they have a healthy and happy childhood so that they can one day continue the cycle.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21070681]So you rather people live in a correct world where we have correct beliefs and can not think for our selves; not matter how illogical it may be. Kind of ironic considering you told me to think for my self awhile back. The only way to have people think 100% truth and only truth is to control them and their minds.[/QUOTE] Nice job missing the point. by the way. [editline]04:16AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;21071028]If we based all our decisions on what would rationally be the best for the survival of our species, our primary goal in life, our society would be nothing more than one big baby factory optimized for creating as many babies as possible. Instead, emotions restrain us from doing that, by making us want to invest time and effort in our offspring, making sure they have a healthy and happy childhood so that they can one day continue the cycle.[/QUOTE] Are you honestly trying to draw a link between making choices based on feelings and loving your children. And I thought it couldn't get more absurd.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;21071014]Nice run on sentence. I've been shown the light.[/QUOTE] This is facepunch, I don't care about my grammar here.
[QUOTE=lockdown6;21071001]oh my god do you really have no emotions that's so hardcore[/QUOTE] My post that you quoted says that emotions are [i]always present[/i], and I'm no exception to this. Learn to read before you argue
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;21071031]Nice job missing the point. by the way. [editline]04:16AM[/editline] Are you honestly trying to draw a link between making choices based on feelings and loving your children. And I thought it couldn't get more absurd.[/QUOTE] I absolutely am. Do you deny that the main drive in life is reproduction?
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21070950]Actually, my point is that people should be free to think as they should and do it as they please. If they want to think using emotion instead of logic; or some other dumb shit let them. This is a free world. Emotions are indeed important in decisions; Example You're an army soldier and you see an enemy soldier laying on the ground; begging you not to shoot him. Logical - Kill him; he is an enemy Human/Emotional - Mercy. Sure; I dumbed that down a bit but it's the basic point. Logic is a wonderful tool but you have to combine it with what makes you a human; emotion.[/QUOTE] Yeah, or logical the Geneva convention says that what you're doing is a war crime and as a prisoner he should be restrained and captured. But no, the big bad logic is evil and wants to kill all babies because it's an emotionless bogeyman!
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21070951]Emotions are horrible for decision-making. Just because they're always there doesn't mean they're useful. [editline]11:11PM[/editline] Mercy, he comes back and shoot you in the nuts Emotion made a bad call[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-beer-tent/61756-wwii-german-angel-mercy.html[/url] German WW2 Ace spared 4 or so English airmen in a B-17, the lead English pilot and German pilot met up 40 or so years later. Because the German used emotion; those men lived.
[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;21071071]I absolutely am. Do you deny that the main drive in life is reproduction?[/QUOTE] No, and I never denied it was. I'm saying there's a difference between shooting someone in the foot because he pissed you off and making sure your child has a good life.
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