• Is making fun of 9/11 or the holocaust or any other horrible disaster okay?
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As has been said, depends on the context. Cracking jokes about the holocaust while you're surrounded by Jews probably isn't a sensible thing to do. Walking around in Germany while doing the Nazi-salute isn't very smart either. However if you get offended by even the slightest of jokes regarding, say, 9/11, then you seriously need to move on. I agree that 9/11 was a horrible, horrible event, and God forbid we ever forget or ignore it. But that doesn't stop me from laughing at all the gifs showing Buzz Lightyear hammering into the towers.
I got banned for a 9-11 joke, but it got me over 300 Funnies so it was worth.
Should you make jokes about children in Ethiopia dieing from starvation, dehydration, disease, war, massacres, etc? Who ever thinks it's okay to make fun of that, is one fucked up individual. I see Ethiopia, holocaust, 9/11, and any other event where people have died not a joking matter at all. It should always be remembered as a serious disaster in human history.
[QUOTE=Triage;45378796]Should you make jokes about children in Ethiopia dieing from starvation, dehydration, disease, war, massacres, etc? Who ever thinks it's okay to make fun of that, is one fucked up individual. I see Ethiopia, holocaust, 9/11, and any other event where people have died not a joking matter at all. It should always be remembered as a serious disaster in human history.[/QUOTE] Q: How do you start a rave in Ethiopia? [sp]tape a piece of bread to the ceiling[/sp]
[QUOTE=Triage;45378796]Should you make jokes about children in Ethiopia dieing from starvation, dehydration, disease, war, massacres, etc? Who ever thinks it's okay to make fun of that, is one fucked up individual. I see Ethiopia, holocaust, 9/11, and any other event where people have died not a joking matter at all. It should always be remembered as a serious disaster in human history.[/QUOTE] "Ethiopia should always be remembered as a serious disaster in human history." There is something wrong with this post.
[QUOTE=Shark Cat;45366313]all the jokes are done, they've all been said anyone saying them now just looks like a dickhead the jokes are as dead as the victims the jokes are their own tragedy now rip in peace (they were never funny anyway btw)[/QUOTE] the holocaust and 9/11 that shits funny 24/7 [editline]13th July 2014[/editline] sorry [editline]13th July 2014[/editline] pretend i snipped but im leaving that joke
[QUOTE=Triage;45378796]Should you make jokes about children in Ethiopia dieing from starvation, dehydration, disease, war, massacres, etc? Who ever thinks it's okay to make fun of that, is one fucked up individual. I see Ethiopia, holocaust, 9/11, and any other event where people have died not a joking matter at all. It should always be remembered as a serious disaster in human history.[/QUOTE] The adage that tragedy is comedy plus time kind of holds true here. People are still very sensitive about 9/11 and the Holocaust because it's still affecting people: Even when every Holocaust survivor and WWII vet has died, its effects still ring through in Israel to this day. Likewise, we have the War on Terror which is a direct result of 9/11, and thus people feel uncomfortable joking about it normally. However, much like 'avoid _ like the Plague' has become a stock, vaguely humorous phrase, completely ignoring that it obliterated over half of Europe's population, once nobody feels particularly affected by these events any more, people will normally start making jokes about it. But much like art of any kind, you can't really stop people making jokes. It can often be tasteless, I don't think anybody would doubt that, but it's not really something which can be prevented. What matters most is the context and the intent.
The problem with this topic is that its incredibly vague and doesn't really lend itself to any kind of mature view. While your viewpoint is not a disgusting one and neither is the topic, which infact I would argue could be grounds for an extremely intelligent conversation, no attempt has been made here to lay things out with any real critical thought or even an open mind to how and why, people do things. With that out of the way, let me be incredibly clear and concise. People who make fun of 9/11 literally, are people who probably have issues with sympathy/empathy and possible sociopath issues, but reality is we're not psychologists. But anyone who thinks that is genuinely hilarious probably has an issue or two that they need to look into. But for many people, this is not the case. We joke about these things to cope and calm ourselves and to calm others. For many of us and I included, if we don't laugh; we cry. I'd argue you do the same, or at the least have your own method of coping. There is nothing wrong with making a joke to calm ourselves and to keep from breaking; the intention is critical and is completely what matters. Do you know anyone with any serious problems in life such as a dysfunctional family or any sort of loss? I can tell you first hand, that while its not always what happens; laughter is typically how I've handled such things. This is very complex and part of human psychology. We can draw this to many other things; such as why we make fun of Hitler. (Godwin) Its not to belittle the horrors he and his followers committed, it is to belittle/mock him and find comfort among the horrifying reality. TL:DR Its to cope, we laugh or we cry.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;45380608][...] [B]we make fun of Hitler. (Godwin)[/B] [...][/QUOTE] That is such a nuanced joke... #1: You're talking about Hitler as an example of someone we make fun of. #2: You say that Godwin's law is an example of this. #3: You highlighted that you fulfilled Godwin's law. You made a Hitler Joke within your very example of a Hitler joke, by using just one word. [I]"Godwin."[/I] I don't care if it was an accident or purposeful. That was a fantastic achievement. That said. Nice to see someone actually tackle the OP's question. Which is something I haven't felt inclined to do, because the OP seems very closed minded about the subject.
Okay, I'll give the OP's question a bash... [I]It's a bit of a book and it's all just opinion. So feel free to ignore it on that basis. I'm just a person, not a researcher.[/I] "Is making fun of any horrible disaster okay?" If recipients find the joke funny, then It's okay. Because they are made happy. While afterwards they can reflect seriously on the reality, raising awareness of the issue brought up. If they don't find it funny. Then they could become sad, which is bad. But they may also reflect on the reality that the joke dealt with, thus raising awareness of an issue regardless. So no matter what I think these jokes are a positive thing. But my main reason for saying that these jokes are good, is because laughter should happen at every reasonable opportunity. It helps us deal with realty. Because reality can be a dark place, and sometimes we have to acknowledge our helplessness and just laugh at the darkness. Anyway... This comment here was originally [I]way[/I] off topic, I ended up using it as that start of a different thread, [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1409269&p=45384034#post45384034"]Jokes about tragedy - Why are they funny or unfunny?[/URL].
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