[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29626828]like i said
my grandpa is a mason
he says they hang around and drink
that's what old people do[/QUOTE]
You're not making a smart comment here, you're just advertising your short sightedness.
All it took was some old dude to tell you that all they do is hang around and drink, what else would old people do? and you just swallow it because, I don't know. Did you feel stupid at that moment if you were to assume they did anything more? Or was it because he's your grandpa, and why would he lie to you?
That's having blind faith in that what he said was true. Whether he lied or not, you're putting yourself in a vulnerable position. And if you don't understand that, then you're just waiting to get fucked.
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[QUOTE=Megafanx13;29626989]I hate to point this out again, but if there's really a group that is/was capable of taking over the [B]entire world[/B], would they honestly be so incompetent to let so much slip through the cracks or be discernable through symbols and what not that people like us could debate this so adamantly?[/QUOTE]
Because as long as the majority of people don't believe it, then it's all cool. And so what if some shit slips? That's good, because you get stupid people arguing over insignificant bullshit while these goons get real shit done.
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29627001]You're not making a smart comment here, you're just advertising your short sightedness.
All it took was some old dude to tell you that all they do is hang around and drink, what else would old people do? and you just swallow it because, I don't know. Did you feel stupid at that moment if you were to assume they did anything more? Or was it because he's your grandpa, and why would he lie to you?
That's having blind faith in that what he said was true. Whether he lied or not, you're putting yourself in a vulnerable position. And if you don't understand that, then you're just waiting to get fucked.[/QUOTE]
Except it's pretty easy to become a mason. Kinda ruins your theory there.
[QUOTE=TH89;29626970]My god, you're right. Y- even you could be one of them! AAAHHHHHHHHHH[/QUOTE]
If I was them I'd be snorting coke and burning money, not talking to you guys. lol
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[QUOTE=TH89;29627024]Except it's pretty easy to become a mason. Kinda ruins your theory there.[/QUOTE]
Yeah because being a mason is NOTHING
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29627031]Yeah because being a mason is NOTHING[/QUOTE]
Then why are you trying so hard to convince Mr. Scorpio that his grandfather is lying to him about what masons do?
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My family is friends with a guy from SETI, is he lying to us about the UFOs too :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=TH89;29627066]Then why are you trying so hard to convince Mr. Scorpio that his grandfather is lying to him about what masons do?
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My family is friends with a guy from SETI, is he lying to us about the UFOs too :tinfoil:[/QUOTE]
I didn't try hard. Do you think coming to that point of thought is so hard?
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29627085]I didn't try hard. Do you think coming to that point of thought is so hard?[/QUOTE]
Not if you're stupid.
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29627001]Because as long as the majority of people don't believe it, then it's all cool. And so what if some shit slips? That's good, because you get stupid people arguing over insignificant bullshit while these goons get real shit done.[/QUOTE]
Then there should be no reason for them to kill William Cooper or any other conspiracy theorist.
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29627031]If I was them I'd be snorting coke and burning money, not talking to you guys. lol
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Yeah because being a mason is NOTHING[/QUOTE]
are coke snorters and money burners good at running a secret shadow organization that spans the world
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;29627109]Then there should be no reason for them to kill William Cooper or any other conspiracy theorist.[/QUOTE]
Not exactly, it's always good to have some truths among a sea of bullshit, but also if these people who know the truth are killed, it leaves room for people to "elaborate" on or "explain" what these people knew and stood for.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29627133]are coke snorters and money burners good at running a secret shadow organization that spans the world[/QUOTE]
Hey, as long as you can handle it then no problem!
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29627133]are coke snorters and money burners good at running a secret shadow organization that spans the world[/QUOTE]
Yes they compose a secret cabal that extracts tiger blood and distributes it around the globe, giving extraordinarily abilities to agents of this cabal, while allowing them to be easily controlled by their reptile masters.
[img]http://www.celebrityviplounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/charlie_sheen.jpg[/img]
He who controls the tiger blood controls the universe
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29627138]Not exactly, it's always good to have some truths among a sea of bullshit[/QUOTE]
Real, actual conspiracies (like Watergate) have never intentionally leaked information. Why on earth would they? "It's good to tell a few people about your shadow conspiracy" is the dumbest rationalization I've ever heard for the fact that your ideas just [i]don't make sense[/i].
[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/hendon700[/url]
Yes this guy is real and yes he is that crazy.
while its all well and good to realize most stuff out there is bullshit (just like anime, most is shit, but there are gems), you also have to realize there are some "conspiricy theories" that are in fact, correct. its dangerous to offhand dismiss everything called a conspiracy theory. that just opens room for REAL conspiricies to happen, and have a bunch of people going "hurr durr ur just paranoid ima go back to my sheeple" ripe for the exploiting
for instance, in your title you refer to zeitgeist. if your refering to the zeitgeist movie, then i agree, but if your referring to zeitgeist moving forward, i disagree. the first is mostly BS while the other has proof supporting it everywhere.
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29627138]Not exactly, it's always good to have some truths among a sea of bullshit, but also if these people who know the truth are killed, it leaves room for people to "elaborate" on or "explain" what these people knew and stood for.[/QUOTE]
But if they can cover up deaths [B]that well[/B], why on earth would they feel the need to leave anyone who knows the "truth" alive?
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[QUOTE=TH89;29627176]Real, actual conspiracies (like Watergate) have never intentionally leaked information. Why on earth would they? "It's good to tell a few people about your shadow conspiracy" is the dumbest rationalization I've ever heard for the fact that your ideas just [i]don't make sense[/i].[/QUOTE]
I think I can guess the response here.
"They do it to keep the sheep docile." or something to that effect.
A conspiracy theorists sole purpose is to label billions of people as hopeless retards for not flunking primary school, while at the same time claiming that all they want is polite and reasoned debate. Because - of course - all conspiracy theorists have open minds and are perfectly willing to evaluate a position without dismissing its adherents as being stupid; bought off by the government, the military-industrial complex, or by some other "Big" organization liberals have been crying about for just a little longer than the past few centuries.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29627211]"Big" organization liberals have been crying about for just a little longer than the past few centuries.[/QUOTE]
Uh, what? Liberals haven't been categorically complaining about some big organization.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29627211]A conspiracy theorists sole purpose is to label billions of people as hopeless retards for not flunking primary school, while at the same time claiming that all they want is polite and reasoned debate. Because - of course - all conspiracy theorists have open minds and are perfectly willing to evaluate a position without dismissing its adherents as being stupid; bought off by the government, the military-industrial complex, or by some other "Big" organization liberals have been crying about for just a little longer than the past few centuries.[/QUOTE]
Dwight D. Eisenhower is a crying liberal? Awesome.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;29627216]Uh, what? Liberals haven't been categorically complaining about some big organization.[/QUOTE]
I was referring to people like hippies that complain about this sort of thing. Consequently many conspiracy theorists are hippies.
CONSPIRACY?
[QUOTE=TH89;29627238]Dwight D. Eisenhower is a crying liberal? Awesome.[/QUOTE]
I was of the view that he supported classical liberal principles, such as small government?
banks exploiting the monetary system you say? your just a conspiracy theorist! :V
Wait did sobotnik mean it as small government or just a disparaging remark?
honestly im quite tired of this idiot OP's threads. why does he feel the need to go ahead and suggest that there is some sort of conspiracy between conspiracy theorists to.... oh my god op is a conspiracy theorist.
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but really, when you disagree that some proof is proof, that person isnt an idiot for believing it and by extension believing whatever that proof prooves. its a matter of opinion and logic mashed together, and it really depends on your personal views. that person isnt any stupider than you, you just have different views.
to try and convince other people your better than someone else because you dont think that some facts align to create the same result as another person, well, thats just retarded really.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;29627298]honestly im quite tired of this idiot OP's threads. why does he feel the need to go ahead and suggest that there is some sort of conspiracy between conspiracy theorists to.... oh my god op is a conspiracy theorist.[/QUOTE]
Dear god it's happening already.
To the mothership!
[QUOTE=Sector 7;29618996]one of my old neighbors was a freemason
they'd have community dinners and shit, and you rise up through the ranks like some creepy-ass cult
fairly certain they don't rule the world though[/QUOTE]They're just a bunch of old farts who masturbate over being part of a _super secret_ cult. They also promote cronyism outside of their little club, i.e. Freemasons helping each other out, but on account of being a relatively small thing you needn't worry about Freemasons taking your jobs.
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[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29618772]Unfortunately I don't have all the answers and the author who's book I'm currently infatuated with was murdered a month following 9/11. All I can say for sure is that certain highly-ranked, top-secret informed, parts of the Air Force, the Navy, as well as many government organizations like the CIA, NSA, FBI(?), etc...
But this isn't the information you need, to examine. That information, is in regards to fraternal secret societies which play a major leading role for these agencies, military VIP's, politicians, etc. This information can be found in the book, Behold a Pale Horse. I cannot stress enough how highly I recommend this book. The author fully notes the possibility of a hoax being perpetrated to fool us, but there is no denying the existence of these secret fraternal societies that are attempting to encroach on our rights one step at a time.[/QUOTE]
Oh god, that shit again? Those organisations aren't nearly as sinister as people make them out to be. You drop out of the CD theory of 9/11 after being defeated, only to come back with something more ridiculous?
[QUOTE=Chekko;29618875]Sorry for wasting your time then.
Be distracted as your human rights begin to vanish.
Of course, you won't see it coming.[/QUOTE]I'll be sure to rat you out to the lizard people when they take over.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29621345]If you have learned so much history I'm sure you know of the Black Hand, the fraternal secret society that killed Franz Ferdinand. So are you suggesting that all secret fraternal societies don't exist and that any evidence of them should be disregarded - despite the fact you haven't seen it?
Sounds a bit closed minded doesn't it?[/QUOTE]Seriously? They were a nationalistic military organisation seeking a greater Serbia. They were not a fraternal circlejerk.
[QUOTE=THEMikeDurham;29621581]Yeah guys, the Illuminati totally want the whole world to know about them. And secrets are also impossible to keep.[/QUOTE]See:
[QUOTE=TH89;29621643]"Secrets exist, therefore this complicated secret organization I believe in is real"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29621826]There are hard documents proving the existence of these complex secret fraternal societies. Instead of pulling bs like this out of your ass, why don't you actual debate me? You have nothing that's why. On the other hand, I have classified government documents.[/QUOTE]Of course they exist you plonker, but they're not in control of the world.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29622828]People are stupid, self centered, and greedy. The "elite" aren't any different. They're no better at controlling entire populations of people than Sony is at protecting it's user information. Even if they could the organization would have fallen apart after a decade because it's made up of power hungry egomaniac geniuses, who as we all know don't work well together on a team.[/QUOTE]This this this, a thousand times over.
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[QUOTE=Diet Kane;29624063]the final piece of the puzzle the freemasons left us
[img_thumb]http://consumerist.com/digiornopizzaandcookies.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]Holy shit that looks delicious.
It makes you wonder why only in recent times these people can shout bullshit about.
Like, if you did that a century ago you would be thrown in the loony bin. Unfortunately we don't do that now to insane people. Instead we make fun of them on the internet, which is possibly more mentally damaging.
Also I just noticed.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29617888]You're argument[/QUOTE]
I am argument?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29631634]It makes you wonder why only in recent times these people can shout bullshit about.
Like, if you did that a century ago you would be thrown in the loony bin. Unfortunately we don't do that now to insane people. Instead we make fun of them on the internet, which is possibly more mentally damaging.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion[/url]
[QUOTE=TH89;29631716][url]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion[/url][/QUOTE]
Oh ye I forgot about the exceptions.
You would be thrown in the loony bin if you didn't have a large amount of the following: Money/power/land, etc.
But bloody hell its insane.
The Protocols is widely considered influential in the development of [B]other conspiracy theories[/B], and reappears repeatedly in contemporary conspiracy literature, such as Jim Marrs' Rule by Secrecy. Some recent editions proclaim that the "Jews" depicted in the Protocols are a cover identity for other conspirators such as the Illuminati,[27] Freemasons, the Priory of Sion, or even, in the opinion of David Icke, "extra-dimensional entities."
I think I know why our conspiracy theorist friends are clinically insane now.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29632009]Oh ye I forgot about the exceptions.
You would be thrown in the loony bin if you didn't have a large amount of the following: Money/power/land, etc.
But bloody hell its insane.
The Protocols is widely considered influential in the development of [B]other conspiracy theories[/B], and reappears repeatedly in contemporary conspiracy literature, such as Jim Marrs' Rule by Secrecy. Some recent editions proclaim that the "Jews" depicted in the Protocols are a cover identity for other conspirators such as the Illuminati,[27] Freemasons, the Priory of Sion, or even, in the opinion of David Icke, "extra-dimensional entities."
I think I know why our conspiracy theorist friends are clinically insane now.[/QUOTE]
We didn't think that already :v:?
[QUOTE=Swilly;29632108]We didn't think that already :v:?[/QUOTE]
Already did know they were insane, but now I see another possible reason for their insanity.
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